Does a car consume fuel under engine braking?

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letdown427

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Tell you what, next time you fill up, get 5litres in a jerry can.

Run your car out of fuel. Leave it in gear. Notice the rpms are still up there? And they slowly go down as the car coasts to a halt? Yeah exactly.
/Thread.
Yeah, but the fuel has been shut off and the car stopped. Owned.

You said about pistons moving needs fuel. I just showed you they don't./ They can't be consuming fuel as there isn't any left, yet they are moving.

I'm not trying to say the car won't stop in those conditions. Yes, it would engine brake to a halt, and then the engine would die pathetically. But it would still be turning over at whatever RPM until you took it out of gear, without using any fuel.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Tell you what, next time you fill up, get 5litres in a jerry can.

Run your car out of fuel. Leave it in gear. Notice the rpms are still up there? And they slowly go down as the car coasts to a halt? Yeah exactly.
/Thread.
Yeah, but the fuel has been shut off and the car stopped. Owned.

You said about pistons moving needs fuel. I just showed you they don't./ They can't be consuming fuel as there isn't any left, yet they are moving.

I'm not trying to say the car won't stop in those conditions. Yes, it would engine brake to a halt, and then the engine would die pathetically. But it would still be turning over at whatever RPM until you took it out of gear, without using any fuel.

Because there isn't any. What is your point? No fuel and the car stops.
 

letdown427

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.

I'm in a slush box.
 

Mark R

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.

I'm in a slush box.

Doesn't matter, an autobox will stay in gear as long as the ignition switch is on, and the engine is turning.

During engine breaking the autobox will transmit torque from the wheels to the engine. If you had run out of fuel going down a hill, the autobox would continue transmitting torque, the engine would keep turning and the autobox would remain in gear.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.

I'm in a slush box.

Doesn't matter, an autobox will stay in gear as long as the ignition switch is on, and the engine is turning.

During engine breaking the autobox will transmit torque from the wheels to the engine. If you had run out of fuel going down a hill, the autobox would continue transmitting torque, the engine would keep turning and the autobox would remain in gear.

But if it had fuel it would still be using it. This pistons would suck it in.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.

I'm in a slush box.

Doesn't matter, an autobox will stay in gear as long as the ignition switch is on, and the engine is turning.

During engine breaking the autobox will transmit torque from the wheels to the engine. If you had run out of fuel going down a hill, the autobox would continue transmitting torque, the engine would keep turning and the autobox would remain in gear.

But if it had fuel it would still be using it. This pistons would suck it in.


Pistons do not suck... injectors, inject.

 

letdown427

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wikihow
Also, if you own a car with fuel injection, it is more efficient to keep the car in a high gear while going down hills. Fuel injected cars will shut off fuel flow to the injectors when coasting downhill in gear, as opposed to consuming fuel to keep the engine at idle while in neutral. Simply take your foot off the gas.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: letdown427
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
See? This guy knows what he's on about. Pistons move and they need fuel to keep them on. /Thread.
That's what I'm on about.

They don't need fuel to keep them on. Being in gear kept them 'on'.

I'm in a slush box.

Doesn't matter, an autobox will stay in gear as long as the ignition switch is on, and the engine is turning.

During engine breaking the autobox will transmit torque from the wheels to the engine. If you had run out of fuel going down a hill, the autobox would continue transmitting torque, the engine would keep turning and the autobox would remain in gear.

But if it had fuel it would still be using it. This pistons would suck it in.


Pistons do not suck... injectors, inject.

How does the air get in? Air injector?
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: letdown427
wikihow
Also, if you own a car with fuel injection, it is more efficient to keep the car in a high gear while going down hills. Fuel injected cars will shut off fuel flow to the injectors when coasting downhill in gear, as opposed to consuming fuel to keep the engine at idle while in neutral. Simply take your foot off the gas.

WikiHow
Shift into neutral. Standard transmission vehicles can save gas by shifting into neutral when going down hills or braking. To further increase mileage, a hybrid car will shut off your engine in these cases. NOTE: Neither of these strategies is recommended for normal automatic cars.
 

natto fire

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Apart from the funny nonsense in here. I'm wondering does the same apply to CI engines. Not that i care just wondering. Hmm i'm assuming it does.

By the way peeps a petrol car doesn't consume fuel under engine braking. It's even been proven previously in this thread.


The sad part is that half of the people that posted in this thread do not even know what a compression ignition engine is, or how it operates.

That being said, if arguing the trivial amount of fuel in a spark-ignition engine (complete with throttle and vacuum losses) gets these people going, the even more minute amount that would be saved in a diesel should make for some great flamewars!

LOL at the moron trying to call DBZ out while he was merely mocking the less-informed people.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: RichUK
Apart from the funny nonsense in here. I'm wondering does the same apply to CI engines. Not that i care just wondering. Hmm i'm assuming it does.

By the way peeps a petrol car doesn't consume fuel under engine braking. It's even been proven previously in this thread.


The sad part is that half of the people that posted in this thread do not even know what a compression ignition engine is, or how it operates.

That being said, if arguing the trivial amount of fuel in a spark-ignition engine (complete with throttle and vacuum losses) gets these people going, the even more minute amount that would be saved in a diesel should make for some great flamewars!

LOL at the moron trying to call DBZ out while he was merely mocking the less-informed people.

:thumbsup:
 

letdown427

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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
LOL at the moron trying to call DBZ out while he was merely mocking the less-informed people.
That'll be me then

What can I say, I see a Lifer, spouting nonsense, I just have to argue!

 
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