Does a Cooler System Mean A quieter System?

[fuzzymath10]

Would undervolting lower the performance of my computer?

Nope. Same clocks, lower voltage (and heat).

I'm in the same boat that I don't mind my case being on the toasty side if it's still within bounds and it means I save noise (and maintenance) from more moving parts (fans).

My video cards idle around 45 and hit 90, my CPUs around 40 and hit 70, and those are fairly acceptable numbers.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Not worth it. Rather than paying for Hyper 212+ and an extra fan for push-pull, it'd be a better idea to buy a better heatsink in the first place.

"I was reading reviews which stated that the Hyper212+ managed to keep an AMD1090T under 35 degrees Celsius during full load. "

The only reason why I am replacing the fan on the front is so its quiter, pushes more air, it glows blue, and will match all the other fans i am putting in. I am purchasing it also because it was featured in the pc builders bible by pc gamer. that is the cpu cooler they used in the maxing crysis 2 rig they built for 1524$. Also, its 25$. cant go wrong with that.

 

[Ketchup]

Putting a fan in the front of the case will make your computer louder. There is almost not case were that is not true. It will help out the hard drive temps, but that's about it. A side vent/fan is a good way to keep the video card cool, but again, more noise will be the result.

 

[jordanecmusic]

What's funny...? I'm confused

Whats funny?

you say you shouldn't pay more than 5$ for a fan.

then you post a fan that costs 11$ plus 10$ shippinh (21$ total)

thats a little funny

 

[jordanecmusic]

What I think I'm looking to do here is create actual airflow though out the system like this diagram here.

The way the chassis was designed automatically creates suction on the side vent for the cold air to get in if fans are placed as shown in the diagram (lower front, bottom after psu, rear, and top nearest vent to the front.

Also, would it be a good idea to have a ram fan? I use corsair vengance so I have really tall heatsinks on my ram sticks so I think the fans I am adding will just cool them off too right?

 

[Zap]

Thank you for showing me this. Now if there is one for cooling, hand the link over. Nao.

Why thank you.

There's a lot of theory and generic parts choosing advice in my thread, but the important sections for you are the following:

Stop obsessing about temperatures.

How to make your current rig more quiet

Read those parts, comprehend what I am trying to say, be enlightened and come back a wiser man.

For cooling, see what Fallengod said:

It is only necessary to cool a computer to the point where its within threshold and not overheating.

If your GPU fans are on AUTO, then it doesn't matter how many fans you stuff in your case. Your GPU will still hit the temperature that it already is under load. Why? Because that's the temperature it is set to hit. If temperatures go above the GPU fan spins faster. If temperatures go below, GPU fans spin slower. The only way to get your GPU fan quieter is to manually set a static speed, or (if possible) set up a fan profile different from what is set in firmware. Of course this means slowing down the maximum that the fan hits, which will cause higher load temperatures, which can then be lowered with better case ventilation. However, you may be just moving noise from one source to another, though with 120mm case fans the noise may go down a bit, especially if your GPU fan is a blower type. I don't think it is.

Do replace your "Diablotek PSU with two 80mm fans." Bad quality and probably adds a bit of noise.

I was reading reviews which stated that the Hyper212+ managed to keep an AMD1090T under 35 degrees Celsius during full load.

I call shens on this. I would believe 35ºC when idling, but that is not a realistic load temperature even with high end water cooling. Okay, normal high end, not aigomorla high end. :whiste: To put it succinctly, I do not believe "35ºC during full load" about a Hyper 212+, especially under "normal" conditions (normal room temperature, inside a normal case).

 

[aigomorla]

Stop obsessing about temperatures.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

if i dont break the ambient by some funky way which defys physics, i need to redraft the entire loop!!! :whiste:

 

[ss284]

The answer to your question is no. Adding fans will make your system louder. Just buy the items you originally posted.

 

[jordanecmusic]

I call shens on this. I would believe 35ºC when idling, but that is not a realistic load temperature even with high end water cooling. Okay, normal high end, not aigomorla high end. To put it succinctly, I do not believe "35ºC during full load" about a Hyper 212+, especially under "normal" conditions (normal room temperature, inside a normal case). __________________

Who knows? Guy must be living in Alaska (ba-dump-tsssss)

I am contemplating on replacing the psu though. i fear for my psu exploding and damaging parts that are precious to me.

 

[Rvenger]

Who knows? Guy must be living in Alaska (ba-dump-tsssss)

I am contemplating on replacing the psu though. i fear for my psu exploding and damaging parts that are precious to me.

That PSU is the most of your issues right there. If you replace your PSU with a more efficient, safer unit, it will produce less heat and less stress to your components and in turn make your computer cooler and quieter.

 

[lehtv]

Whats funny?

you say you shouldn't pay more than 5$ for a fan.

then you post a fan that costs 11$ plus 10$ shippinh (21$ total)

thats a little funny

Learn to read.

I said you shouldn't pay for five more case fans. Maybe my posts will start making a bit more sense to you now? Nowhere in this thread have I said you shouldn't pay more than $5 for a case fan.

 

[jordanecmusic]

1madbro above me

anyways, I found out the problem of what makes the most noise in my system. the stock cpu fan and the psu. stock cpu fan is much louder though.

i think i might replace the psu while im ahead.

 

[jordanecmusic]

I am replacing the psu. I need to choose between

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750
-Not Modular
-5 year warranty
-140mm fan
-80 plus bronze
-$90

or

Thermaltake TR2 750watt
-Semi Modular
-5 year warranty
-140mm fan
-80 plus standard
-$90
Help?

 

[lehtv]

1madbro above me

Yeah, right. I'm not mad, I'm explaining to you stuff and if you're not listening, that's your loss.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Attention everybody! By installing 4 silenx effizio fans into my pc (replacing one thermaltake fan that came stock inside the pc), my gpu temperature has dropped from 80c to 60c (full load). I have yet to install the cooler master hyper 212+ nor the cooler master silent pro m850 psu yet.

When I finish installing the rest, I will post my findings.



and btw. These fans are extremely quiet and do push alot of air. I would have to agree that they are 15dba 75cfm.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Thats the final result.
Temp dropped from 50c to 30c idle on cpu
GPU dropped from 80c to 60c on full load

 

[birthdaymonkey]

Yeah, right. I'm not mad, I'm explaining to you stuff and if you're not listening, that's your loss.

Sometimes I think you try too hard, lehtv. He's got his 850w cooler master, his blue silenxes, seems quite pleased...

BTW, I had the same experience with my R3 as you. I ended up removing even the top fan I'd added because having more than the two front intakes and one rear exhaust made zero difference. With the foam pad in the top positions, it cools great and makes almost no noise with fan controller set to 5v.

 

[lehtv]

Sometimes I think you try too hard, lehtv. He's got his 850w cooler master, his blue silenxes, seems quite pleased...

I'm not here to please him so that's pretty irrelevant

 

[birthdaymonkey]

I'm not here to please him so that's pretty irrelevant

I wasn't criticizing you... just commenting on a certain species of poster who claims to be asking for advice, but when good counsel is given, they reject it. It becomes clear that they're really just looking for someone to tell them "great job." As you're always trying to offer good advice, it must be frustrating to deal with these situations.

 

[lehtv]

I wasn't criticizing you... just commenting on a certain species of poster who claims to be asking for advice, but when good counsel is given, they reject it. It becomes clear that they're really just looking for someone to tell them "great job." As you're always trying to offer good advice, it must be frustrating to deal with these situations.

Yeah, a bit. It always seems to me that even after receiving some less friendly posts, there's still a chance to find some way to cooperate. But it's invariably a pleasant surprise if the other poster says "yeah sorry, I see what you're saying now, thanks", or even "let's just agree to disagree". It's always something you wish but still comes as a surprise. People are stubborn, I know I am sometimes.

 

[natto fire]

I wasn't criticizing you... just commenting on a certain species of poster who claims to be asking for advice, but when good counsel is given, they reject it. It becomes clear that they're really just looking for someone to tell them "great job." As you're always trying to offer good advice, it must be frustrating to deal with these situations.

That's what I got from this thread, and LED fans are no friend of mine, PSU seems like overkill, and the case looks messy from the dim low-res pictures.

At least OP obtained his goals, but if he wanted flashy fans and an overkill psu he probably should have put that in the original post.

 

[jordanecmusic]

At least OP obtained his goals, but if he wanted flashy fans and an overkill psu he probably should have put that in the original post.

-5 Silenx Effizio Fans (15dba, 74cfm, 1400rpm, fluid dynamic bearing) -Cooler Master Hyper 212+ -SilenX HDD Cooling and Silencing Solution -(contemplating) Ultra 750 watt PSU (SLI READY 135mm FAN)

um...

 

[lehtv]

Um what?

750W is about 200W more than you need for the below specs and your new flashy case fans.

-Intel Core i5-2500k @ Stock
-MSI P67A-C43
-Seagate Barracuda Green 1TB
-EVGA GeForce GTX 560 SC 2GB
-8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V
-Thermaltake V3 Black Edition

Also wondering why your Ultra 750W PSU says 850W on the side.

 

[jordanecmusic]

Um what?

750W is about 200W more than you need for the below specs and your new flashy case fans.



Also wondering why your Ultra 750W PSU says 850W on the side.

Future proofing for my SLI setup when I get the money, thought 850W would do the trick. Thinking of overclocking too.

Also, its a Cooler Master Silent Pro M850. Got it on sale for $120. Didn't get the Ultra because people were giving it bad reviews.

and HEY! I like my flashy case fans :3

 

[SickBeast]

OP, to answer your question, it depends.

If you have a bunch of fans going, that's going to generate a lot of noise but your system will be quiet.

If you run your heatsink passively, then your CPU will run hot but it will be dead silent.

System cooling is a bit of an art and every system is different.

My system right now is running with a single 140mm case fan exhausting the heat out, and I have a massive CPU heatsink that runs passively most of the time. My GPU has a very quiet custom cooler on it. Basically you never hear my system. Even under full load you'll only hear a very dull whooshing sound.

Things get more complicated if you're running a more powerful rig that I have. If you run SLI, for example, you're going to need better case cooling.

For the people that are suggesting water cooling, I'm not sure it's the best idea. Yes, a good water cooling setup will keep your system cooler than even the best air coolers, but the noise generated is going to be about the same. I prefer air cooling because I don't want to worry about a leak.