does Borderlands 3 get good? Now Official B3 <3 thread

[zinfamous]

If you don't like jumping, don't do Takedown at the Guardian Breach.

hah, I still haven't done any of the takedowns. ...I don't know why, but I remember getting into the Digistruct Peak or whatever in BL2, and it's an entirely different meta thing. ...I guess I didn't want to take it too hardcore with this game. I like hard content, but I don't want to be angry

that being said....

I gave up on that when I had to activate all 3 gates simultaneously. I play solo, and it is almost impossible.

it really isn't, apparently. Honestly, I need to try it out for myself and just get a feel for it, but a lot of very easy late game builds--and all characters are pretty well balanced now, with relatively easy gear requirements--that it isn't that much different from general Mayhem 10 content...which, honestly, is actually easier than Mayhem 1-6 (with the way that skill damage scales in Mayhem right now).

Anyway, it's "as soloable" as Digistruct was in BL2...which means you dedicate enough time to get that good and collect gear (which is at least easier than it was in BL2), and get familiar with it. ....which means not many of us if you are the same age as I am.

 

[ondma]

hah, I still haven't done any of the takedowns. ...I don't know why, but I remember getting into the Digistruct Peak or whatever in BL2, and it's an entirely different meta thing. ...I guess I didn't want to take it too hardcore with this game. I like hard content, but I don't want to be angry

that being said....



it really isn't, apparently. Honestly, I need to try it out for myself and just get a feel for it, but a lot of very easy late game builds--and all characters are pretty well balanced now, with relatively easy gear requirements--that it isn't that much different from general Mayhem 10 content...which, honestly, is actually easier than Mayhem 1-6 (with the way that skill damage scales in Mayhem right now).

Anyway, it's "as soloable" as Digistruct was in BL2...which means you dedicate enough time to get that good and collect gear (which is at least easier than it was in BL2), and get familiar with it. ....which means not many of us if you are the same age as I am.

I dont remember how far I got in Digistruct peak. Dont think I ever finished it though. As for Guardian Breech, I havent really tried it since all the weapon buffs and rebalancing of the mayhem levels. I tried it when they changed to M10 from M2.0, and you could empty a whole clip or 2 into a normal enemy and barely dent their health bar. After some of the initial re-scaling I got to the place where you had to activate the 3 gates or whatever you call them, and could not figure out how to do it solo, so I just said "the hell with it".

 

[Ajay]

If anyone is frustrated with progress - try Moze, seriously OP compared to Zane and Flak (at least with the current update).
Once Iron Bear gets leveled up (with skill points), it's just no contest with Badasses and Bosses.

 

[ondma]

If anyone is frustrated with progress - try Moze, seriously OP compared to Zane and Flak (at least with the current update).
Once Iron Bear gets leveled up (with skill points), it's just no contest with Badasses and Bosses.

Yea, Moze is good now, probably my favorite. Iron Bear is really good since it levels up with the character, in contrast to the weapons which keep getting under leveled with the increasing level caps. I played BL3 like crazy for a long time, but am burnt out now and have played very little lately. Just cant get into the Krieg DLC at all.

 

[Igo69]

I only played with Moze, i think this game is fun to play with guns blazing, that is why i liked to play with Salvador all the time in BL2, Commando was 2nd favorite and never played with others characters.

 

[thrushconclude]

Make the game better? The story is irrelevant since they can't go in and change it which sucks, first borderlands i didn't pay attention to the story my first playthrough. Just gambled anytime Lilith or anyone talked on the sanctuary.

Better anointments-currently ase are the only good anointments, need variety

Raid bosses-goes without saying, fun replayable content

More slaughter areas-bots? Future dlc enemies? Boss filled slaughter shaft?

Variety in builds-currently fl4k uses the most varied builds with different anointments. Moze 1 action skill, everyone plays two types of amara, zane has one build and always has action skills up. They nerfed gitm and moze to promote playstyle options but gave no options

Skippable cutscenes

Bug fixes/optimization/ dedicated servers

 

[Ajay]

I don't know how anyone playing single player gets past Mayhem 4. I've played all but Amara, but the other three always get dead in any of the challenges. I get overwhelmed by too many high HP enemies and run out of ammo. The frequent immunity to elemental damage just chews through ammo. I thought Moze, with whom I finished the game story really fast, would be the 'One'. Maybe I'm just under utilizing Iron Bear.

I need a new game to play, haven't found one yet (single player, FPS/shooter looter are my preferences). I did multiplayer for a long time, but don't have the high twitch factor I did when I was younger - also, cheating has become such a pain in the ass. I liked the 'old' days when I ran my own server and banned cheaters by player name and IP address.

 

[Aikouka]

I need a new game to play, haven't found one yet (single player, FPS/shooter looter are my preferences). I did multiplayer for a long time, but don't have the high twitch factor I did when I was younger - also, cheating has become such a pain in the ass. I liked the 'old' days when I ran my own server and banned cheaters by player name and IP address.

Gunfire Reborn might be an interesting option for you. I made a thread on it a month or two ago, and it does tick some of the boxes. I'd say the only thing that could be a hold-up is that it's a Rogue-lite and not a persistent progress thing. Although, like most Rogue-lite -- note, not Rogue-like -- the game does have a persistent secondary progress (i.e. talents). (I've always seen "lite" used to distinguish games with some persistent progress from those that don't.) Anyway, I've had a good amount of fun with it (around 70-80 hours so far), the devs are really active as it gets patches about every week (a new boss is slated to be added this week), and one of the best things? I think it's only $12 normally, and I saw something about a sale.

 

[ondma]

I don't know how anyone playing single player gets past Mayhem 4. I've played all but Amara, but the other three always get dead in any of the challenges. I get overwhelmed by too many high HP enemies and run out of ammo. The frequent immunity to elemental damage just chews through ammo. I thought Moze, with whom I finished the game story really fast, would be the 'One'. Maybe I'm just under utilizing Iron Bear.

I need a new game to play, haven't found one yet (single player, FPS/shooter looter are my preferences). I did multiplayer for a long time, but don't have the high twitch factor I did when I was younger - also, cheating has become such a pain in the ass. I liked the 'old' days when I ran my own server and banned cheaters by player name and IP address.

Yea, despite all the You Tube hype about one shot kills on M10, etc., mid level mayhem is challenging but not impossible. I have finished most content (except the challenges) on M7. I have some pretty good weapons though. If you havent played for a while, they made the enemies less spongy in the recent patches. I dont really find running out of ammo a problem, but still can get killed often with a couple of hits. There is a skill tree for Moze that allows ammo regen, "endless mags" I think it is. Despite all the patches though, only a few weapons are effective at mid to high mayhem levels.

Edit: you also have to get good anointments on the weapons and the right shields and class mods.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't know how anyone playing single player gets past Mayhem 4. I've played all but Amara, but the other three always get dead in any of the challenges. I get overwhelmed by too many high HP enemies and run out of ammo. The frequent immunity to elemental damage just chews through ammo. I thought Moze, with whom I finished the game story really fast, would be the 'One'. Maybe I'm just under utilizing Iron Bear.

I need a new game to play, haven't found one yet (single player, FPS/shooter looter are my preferences). I did multiplayer for a long time, but don't have the high twitch factor I did when I was younger - also, cheating has become such a pain in the ass. I liked the 'old' days when I ran my own server and banned cheaters by player name and IP address.

you can rotate your mayhem modifiers, you know? Some are just impossible to play with--the big tracking Cryo bomb thingy, especially. The elemental immunity kinda sucks too, as long as it is the nonspecific one. I usually go with the speedy one, the death skull one (those are easy to kill), the one that spawns hearts (ditto), the elemental spinning laser thing (this one is annoying, but does drop FFYL targets), the no crits one (note that this does not effect the "non-standard" crits, like Bore or whatever it's called for Flak, that turns those non-crits into crits...so you still get those crits, and all the effects that crits are supposed to trigger)

Honestly, Mayhem 10 is much easier than Mayhem 8 or even Mayhem 6, because of the way that skill damage scales the higher Mayhem you go. You actually start putting out way more damage the higher Mayhem you go, and it overcompensates for enemy leveling.

Moze is super easy in Mayhem 10 and never runs out of ammo. I use Blast Master com (I think). Do you have a Flipper? That's probably the best gun for Moze right now and it isn't close--simply because of the magazine size, fire rate and pellet-per-shot with how it scales with her skills, plus all the splash damage. You almost never have to reload that in Mayhem 10.

 

[Ajay]

Moze is super easy in Mayhem 10 and never runs out of ammo. I use Blast Master com (I think). Do you have a Flipper? That's probably the best gun for Moze right now and it isn't close--simply because of the magazine size, fire rate and pellet-per-shot with how it scales with her skills, plus all the splash damage. You almost never have to reload that in Mayhem 10.

Thanks, for the tips. Fixed the ammo not replenishing bit, swapped out an artifact that didn’t say anything about affecting that skill - whatever. I don’t have some of the OP weapons some do - I didn’t do the Cartel side mission, for example. I may just have a poor weapons load out. Oh, and why does Moze run at only 40% health? Nothing I’ve changed fixes this. There's more to being good at this game than being good at this game than being good at attacking with speed, accuracy and agility.

 

[zinfamous]

Thanks, for the tips. Fixed the ammo not replenishing bit, swapped out an artifact that didn’t say anything about affecting that skill - whatever. I don’t have some of the OP weapons some do - I didn’t do the Cartel side mission, for example. I may just have a poor weapons load out. Oh, and why does Moze run at only 40% health? Nothing I’ve changed fixes this. There's more to being good at this game than being good at this game than being good at attacking with speed, accuracy and agility.

Do you have a Front Loader shield on her? that doubles shield at expense of capping health at 40%

Moze also has some skills in her green? tree--the shield one--that caps her overall health for shield stuff and proc effects, like %fire damage on crit.

Yeah, build and loadout really does matter beyond "aim and shoot and not die"...however, with pretty much all vault hunters right now, the build seems to be much more important than specific gear in a lot of cases in terms of being fairly decent. A lot of them are just so powerful and while there are "best guns," a lot of legendaries, that aren't all that difficult to find now, even if the anointments aren't the best, are still pretty decent.

The Flipper is one of those that works well on all vault hunters, especially Moze and Flak, and is also very easy to farm, if you have DLC 3. It's near the end of the content, on a super-easy, quick boss farm, with a high drop rate...and it drops in all elements (Well, it's Maliwan, so)

Also, do you have DLC 3? One of the fulcrum pieces of gear now, that is essentially "best in class" for maybe 98% of builds is the Pearl artifact, which requires nothing to obtain because it is locked to a quest reward that you don't even do, drops with the same rolls all the time (based on level...but still, the base skill is the same regardless, so level 55 Pearl is basically 98% as good as a level 65), and is something that you want to unlock with at least the characters that you play. ....what sucks is that it also only comes near the end of DLC, but that's something you can do in normal mode and zero mayhem if you just want to roll through it, I guess, with no penalty to stats

 

[Ajay]

^ Well, I've been wanting to try one DLC to see what I think of them, I guess DLC3 is my answer!

 

[zinfamous]

^ Well, I've been wanting to try one DLC to see what I think of them, I guess DLC3 is my answer!

oh yeah, having DLC gear goes a long way into making Mayhem playable, lol. In DLC3, you'll also want to pick up a Lightshow (also easy farm) and a Complex Root (sniper rifle--again, easy farm). That's a pretty solid single-shot boss killer....but it's also really easy to kill yourself with it.

 

[ondma]

Do you have a Front Loader shield on her? that doubles shield at expense of capping health at 40%

Moze also has some skills in her green? tree--the shield one--that caps her overall health for shield stuff and proc effects, like %fire damage on crit.

Yeah, build and loadout really does matter beyond "aim and shoot and not die"...however, with pretty much all vault hunters right now, the build seems to be much more important than specific gear in a lot of cases in terms of being fairly decent. A lot of them are just so powerful and while there are "best guns," a lot of legendaries, that aren't all that difficult to find now, even if the anointments aren't the best, are still pretty decent.

The Flipper is one of those that works well on all vault hunters, especially Moze and Flak, and is also very easy to farm, if you have DLC 3. It's near the end of the content, on a super-easy, quick boss farm, with a high drop rate...and it drops in all elements (Well, it's Maliwan, so)

Also, do you have DLC 3? One of the fulcrum pieces of gear now, that is essentially "best in class" for maybe 98% of builds is the Pearl artifact, which requires nothing to obtain because it is locked to a quest reward that you don't even do, drops with the same rolls all the time (based on level...but still, the base skill is the same regardless, so level 55 Pearl is basically 98% as good as a level 65), and is something that you want to unlock with at least the characters that you play. ....what sucks is that it also only comes near the end of DLC, but that's something you can do in normal mode and zero mayhem if you just want to roll through it, I guess, with no penalty to stats

The pearl artifact was from DLC 2, wasnt it?

 

[Ajay]

Well, there was a sale on the Epic store. So, as soon as they finish downloading (32GB!), I'll have all 4 dlcs (for $30).

 

[zinfamous]

The pearl artifact was from DLC 2, wasnt it?

yes, I mistyped.

 

[Igo69]

I payed for Super Deluxe Edition and now they released new DLCs that also adds new skill tree for each charecter and i have to pay for all of it! Seriously!? FU!

 

[Ajay]

Hmm. Well, I've played three of the four DLCs (TVH mode) and grabbed a few good weapons. I have a slightly better shield and two good grenades. Grenade has a long fuse and enemies actually move away from it! Good AI, but it explodes launching 3 homing grenades - so take that suckers! Haven't found most of the 'good' weapons that @zinfamous mention and are mentioned on the web. Oh well. Just started Krieg and, well, it's pretty crazy. Overall they have been pretty fun; and I made huge bank on the Handsome Jack DLC and have maxed out all my SDUs. Apparently their is was some bug that stopped my Moze character from auto filling ammo - that went away.

 

[zinfamous]

yeah, the homing grenades are good....I think consensus is that the best prefix for Moze grenade is Homing Maddening Tracker--splits into two grenades, each grenade splits into 3 mirvs each, and then the homing bit. With Vampyr and Moze's grenade regen, it's really hard to kill her at any difficulty. Also, I think Vampyr is triggered on hit, not as % damage dealt, so there's some logic to finding lower damage grenades (just keep a low level one if you have it), because if your targets die too fast, you will have less flesh to keep you alive. The prefix that allows for larger explosion radius is good, too, because more targets hit per grenade means more healing.


....but man, this "2nd Season Pass" crap is horrid. I haven't even looked at it, but just the fact that they are charging another $30 for 4 additional skill trees....what the hell have you become, Gearbox?

I'll wait until it can be had for under $10.

 

[ondma]

yeah, the homing grenades are good....I think consensus is that the best prefix for Moze grenade is Homing Maddening Tracker--splits into two grenades, each grenade splits into 3 mirvs each, and then the homing bit. With Vampyr and Moze's grenade regen, it's really hard to kill her at any difficulty. Also, I think Vampyr is triggered on hit, not as % damage dealt, so there's some logic to finding lower damage grenades (just keep a low level one if you have it), because if your targets die too fast, you will have less flesh to keep you alive. The prefix that allows for larger explosion radius is good, too, because more targets hit per grenade means more healing.


....but man, this "2nd Season Pass" crap is horrid. I haven't even looked at it, but just the fact that they are charging another $30 for 4 additional skill trees....what the hell have you become, Gearbox?

I'll wait until it can be had for under $10.

Haven't played for a few weeks. Was put off by the Krieg DLC. I know some like it, but just not my thing I guess. Pretty much burnt out on the rest of the game. I have played the first 3 DLC with all four characters.

Undecided if I will buy the second season pass, probably eventually, but it does seem like kind of a rip off.

 

[DigDog]

IT'S OK GUYS I'VE HAD MY ANSWER i've uninstalled the game 8 months ago, just let it go ok?

 

[zinfamous]

IT'S OK GUYS I'VE HAD MY ANSWER i've uninstalled the game 8 months ago, just let it go ok?

/tried to create hate thread for game

/became default official thread for game.

 

[DigDog]

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[Ajay]

IT'S OK GUYS I'VE HAD MY ANSWER i've uninstalled the game 8 months ago, just let it go ok?

Commie