Does Chipper Jones have any chance whatsoever to bat over .400 this year?

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Perknose

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: conehead433
You could be easily proven wrong if for some reason he has to sit out the rest of the season. >400

We're assuming he his the minimum number of ABs.

Well, you and I are. Conehead apparently doesn't know this BASIC rule. :roll:

 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Nope, he's a .310 career hitter. A miracle year would be .350, there's no way he's going to scare .400 by the end of the year.

This, plus with over half the season left to play he has a lot of time to hit a major slump.

Btw, what's the minimun about of at bats a player needs to qualify?
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I was just thinking about this earlier today,

If the season ended today (1/3 +) the way through the season, Chipper STILL wouldn't break Ted Williams' record.

Ted hit .406 that season vs Chipper's .402, BUT if we adjust for rule changes, Ted's batting average today would be .411. Between .411 and the 84 game on-base streak, Ted holds two records in baseball that I think are absolutely untouchable.

what rule changed? how they count a sac fly or something?

Yup. Sac flies no longer count as an AB.
 

NeoV

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Um....Ted Williams was simply the last person to hit 400 - that's not the single-season record or anything like that. It's actually only the 19th highest single-season average. Tony Gwynn and George Brett came pretty close - I would say it's unlikely, but not impossible, that someone could hit over 400 again.

He does hold the record with an 84 consecutive games on base - but plenty of people have been over 50, so I'm going to say that one could get broken

 

anxi80

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502 plate appearances. if a player is in the running for a batting title though and falls just short of the 502, the difference is deducted and is counted as non-hits and they could still win the batting title. for example, in 1996 gwynn had 498 plate appearances (451 at bats + 39 walks + 1 hit by pitch + 7 sacrifices) and since he was 4 short of the 502 they counted 4 more at bats and made them non-hits and his batting average was still the best in the national league and thats how he won the batting title.

the number of 502 comes from the rulebook that states a player should average around 3.1 at bats a game. so 3.1 x 162 = 502.2. unless that players team got perfect games picthed against them for the entire season and never make up that .1 every game.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Chipper down to .402 after tonight. He's 0 for his last 11 or so at bat.
He needs to stay over .400 tonight to pass Paul O'Neill who's ninth on that SI list. He's playing at Colorado vs a pitcher who's 1-6 with a 4.93 ERA so we'll see.

 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Nope, he's a .310 career hitter. A miracle year would be .350, there's no way he's going to scare .400 by the end of the year.

This, plus with over half the season left to play he has a lot of time to hit a major slump.

Btw, what's the minimun about of at bats a player needs to qualify?

3.1 plate appearances per team game.. The Braves have played 70 games, so it's 217 right now. 502 for a full 162 game season. Chipper has 279 plate appearances, currently.

At his current rate of 4 plate appearances per team game, he'd have to play another 55 games to qualify for the batting title, but he could hang up the cleats some time in August.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Chipper@.400 today. Probably not gonna happen, he'll have to heat up again.

I don't think he's fully healed from the torn quad. He's been in a major slump since coming back.
 

BrokenVisage

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Chase Utley in the middle of a horrid 0-16 streak. MVP race still alive and well, of course I'm pulling for Chase though.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Chipper@.400 today. Probably not gonna happen, he'll have to heat up again.

.400 is so tough because even a 1 for 3 night drops your average. I know that might sound obvious, but it drives home the point of how hard hitting .400 is.
 
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