maybe we charged the kids 10$k per year for K-12 and when they graduate high school they have a 200$k loan to pay off (assuming %2 inflation and %4 interest) :awe:
I have no children myself, so I guess I had mine paid for decades ago and have been paying for everyone's the last 35 years.
*shrug*
I think you would have made a great father.
What do you believe?
I think everyone should have the opportunity for a free K-college education. However, the college aspect of it should be merit based. Further, it should be easier to toss out, or at least ship off to an alternative school, students who don't belong in schools as a result of disruptive behavior. Make the alternative schools a boarding type school, with a military type of discipline. The alternative school would be a free option to students who were tossed out of their regular schools. Provided good behavior in the alternative schools, after 1 year, students would be allowed to be placed back in their old schools. Subsequent problems would result in expulsion (over, say, age 15.)
Oh my god, I love you! That is exactly what I would subscribe to. My wife is a school teacher and she says the number one obstacle in the inner city schools in which she works is disruptive students and the inability to remove them.
That's a stupid plan... There aren't that many students that need expulsion. Maybe she should suck less as a teacher, and get the student's respect? If they don't respect her authority, then they obviously won't listen.
Under this system, what's even the point of the alternative schools? Are they even real schools? It sounds like you are just creating dropout factories.
I think everyone should have the opportunity for a free K-college education. However, the college aspect of it should be merit based. Further, it should be easier to toss out, or at least ship off to an alternative school, students who don't belong in schools as a result of disruptive behavior. Make the alternative schools a boarding type school, with a military type of discipline. The alternative school would be a free option to students who were tossed out of their regular schools. Provided good behavior in the alternative schools, after 1 year, students would be allowed to be placed back in their old schools. Subsequent problems would result in expulsion (over, say, age 15.)
Um.... right. You have never been in an inner city high school. Every single one of them are failing horribly in Milwaukee. Every single one. So you are saying all of those thousands of teachers suck? Not a one of them is any good? The students and their parents have utterly no responsibility in the failure of those schools?
You probably wouldn't have the balls to go into the schools my wife teaches in. They eat internet heroes such as yourself for breakfast.
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This is a good start but I don't think it goes far enough.
Every school should be a boarding school where the older the student, the farther away from home they are stationed, and never in one place for more than a year. Grade school kids stay closer to home, high school kids could end up in other countries. This would reduce problems caused by bad parenting, being stuck in ghetto school districts, or being limited by a reputation. A student's performance each year would determine the type of school (special needs, military, vocational, gifted, etc.) they are sent to the following year.
Only republicans say otherwise.
Who exactly is getting billed for their child's K-12 education? The answer is only those that choose to send their children to a private school of whatever flavor.
Dumb thread is dumb. It belonged in OT. It is not based in news and the political aspects of it are negligible at best.
I've been amazed at all the responses except pcgeek11's since the first. But then again, maybe we're just seeing the results of a public education.
On a related note, who foots the bill for a free education?
This is a good start but I don't think it goes far enough.
Every school should be a boarding school where the older the student, the farther away from home they are stationed, and never in one place for more than a year. Grade school kids stay closer to home, high school kids could end up in other countries. This would reduce problems caused by bad parenting, being stuck in ghetto school districts, or being limited by a reputation. A student's performance each year would determine the type of school (special needs, military, vocational, gifted, etc.) they are sent to the following year.
And I have no children and I get "billed" also. You know what I'm talking about and I'm wondering why you're arguing the point because I know you're smarter than this.I get billed for my kids K-12 education. twice a year i get a bill from the county to pay. Also when you register the kids you pay $150 per kid +books, fees, bullshit. so yeah..we do get billed.
The OP asks if it should be free. Is that something you support? Would you like to be able to cease paying the bill for your child's K-12 education?
If you can translate that, I may have some interest in responding. Right now it's a jumble of thoughts all run together. It's pretty early in the morning to have the kind of buzz on it appears you do but whatever floats your boat.No I know they are supported by taxes, and thus are not totally free. But going by the typical rhetoric, for example inner city schools full of black kids, many would be yelling that they get free handouts, and I even called it last election that the Republican candidates would start calling to get rid of state K-12 education. Of course they never supported getting rid of mandatory K-12 education at the same time that I remember.
No I know they are supported by taxes, and thus are not totally free. But going by the typical rhetoric, for example inner city schools full of black kids, many would be yelling that they get free handouts, and I even called it last election that the Republican candidates would start calling to get rid of state K-12 education. Of course they never supported getting rid of mandatory K-12 education at the same time that I remember.
This is the worst idea i have seen. kids need to be with the parents.
-AristotleEducation is a function of the State, and is conducted, primarily at least, for the ends of the State. State - highest social institution which secures the highest goal or happiness of man. Education is preparation for some worthy activity
- Thomas JeffersonAnd say, finally, whether peace is best preserved by giving energy to the government or information to the people. This last is the most certain and the most legitimate engine of government. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.