Victorian Gray
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No. Everyone has the right to pleasure themselves manually, in private, that's it.
One wonders if op was in a terrible accident where he lost both his hands.
No. Everyone has the right to pleasure themselves manually, in private, that's it.
Agreed. Food and shelter is a necessity. Sex is a biological urge or want. Nobody ever died from lack of sex. If you can't turn on enough charm to find the occasional mercy fuck then don't expect society to pay, coerce or force some poor person to oblige you.The entire premise of this thread is predicated on that sex is about a basic human need as food and shelter.
WTF?
I think he might mean without it the human race is doomed type of basic need.
Nope. This is beyond your understanding. It is about what are the things that are considered rights and if there is a direction in which they are moving.
All I’m saying that it is not at all inconceivable that in time sex would get implicitly defined as a right, for various vague reasons. And there would be a push for a public policy that gives tax payer funds to people to access sex workers or virtual sex.
Agreed. Food and shelter is a necessity. Sex is a biological urge or want. Nobody ever died from lack of sex. If you can't turn on enough charm to find the occasional mercy fuck then don't expect society to pay, coerce or force some poor person to oblige you.
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Tell you want bring a court case, see how far you get.
What does court has to do with public policy? It is what voters want.
He claims it is about mental health, not procreation. Yes, it's an incel argument from what most people can reasonably gather: "give me the sexors that I deserve or I will murder people...science says so!" It reminds me of that idiot Google guy...
I can't figure out OP. I think there is some merit to half of his argument, but he then conflates it with shady science, garbage philosophy, and some inherent desire to "trap" rational people into a logical fallacy that no literate person would fall into.
I'm leaning towards him being some naive kid that recently read some jr high level Rand novel and thinks he's a genius.
Agreed. Food and shelter is a necessity. Sex is a biological urge or want. Nobody ever died from lack of sex.
One wonders if op was in a terrible accident where he lost both his hands.
But can you say they never went insane as a result? Look no further than the abuse at the Church.
One must examine the harm done to others after a mind is twisted into derangement.
The subject draws parallels to the mental destruction that occurs to a person who is kept in isolation.
Dumb question. Of course not.
One of the things I observe among other males that's gotten more and more pronounced in the internet age, is a focus on sex completely divorced of even the slightest clue about actual relationships.
So the approach is a babified one from the get-go. Some guy of not great physical appearance, below average wit and intelligence, with the idea that his pizza delivery job is going to lead to models blowing him because he saw that happen in a porn... No clue what-so-ever about having a normal relationship with someone realistically in their leauge...
That guy is just NEVER going to get any. Then these types get all mad and want to lash out.
We've all probably come across a few types like this.
I once worked with a guy who was a hopeless case, but me at the time being too naive to realize it, hooked this guy up on a double date with my girlfriend's friend. He was one of those always complaining about no dates types and I felt sorry for him.
This was before the internet in everyone's pocket and the set up was litterally as good as it will *ever* get for an average guy like this. My girl's friend was smoking hot, she'd been out of the dating scene and isolated for months. She was curious to meet someone (and according to my gf ready to get it on) basically, the perfect setp on a silver platter
This guy shows up and has absolutely no clue how to interact with her. I don't mean just shy or awkward -she'd have probably found that endearing- just fucking clueless. He didn't ask her a single question, talked only about himself, acted like an ass, mostly ignored her... just the gamut of clueless dipshit stuff.
Not only did this idiot ruin the night for himself, he ruined it for all of us. She was upset, my girl was pissed I invited this assclown, and instead of at her house getting it on, they drove home pissed and I had to drive shithead home.
And on the way this idiot starts giving me the list of superficial things he didn't like about the girl "nose too big, tits too small" the typical clueless asshole stuff. I realized guys like this are so set in their cluelessness that they really believe its a Cindy Crawford type that's going to blow them on demand someday and that some 'average' girl is nothing...
... basically idiots like that will die alone having never been touched by a female.
I firmly believe its that same type of clueless guy that's behind all this incel shit, and coming up with pretzel logic ways society owes them what they're incapable of getting for themselves. The internet has just exasserbated the situation.
These types I think more than ever have a distorted, porn-fueled view of sex and believe that kind of stupid shit is what 'normal' guys get all the time. When porn-mentality approaches to women FAR out of their leauge fails, they throw a hissy and blame society.
Generally I can't blame female kind for rejecting a lot of the goofball shit my fellow males can get up to, but this bunch in particular... pretty damn hopeless.
If many would ever learn what an actual relationship was -not just expect porn to happen for real- how to persue, start and maintain one with a realistic-for-them partner, they'd have success. But I don't think that's even possible for many who have no idea at all what that even is.
Ross Douthat's utter witlessness as Bill Buckley grooms him to be his bottom is all you need to know about this unmasked hamburgler.
LMAO at anyone that takes this guy seriously.
Yes and no. You have the right to have sex but you do not have the right to force someone to have sex with you. Solution: Legalize prostitution. If there is a legal and safe way to those do not have relationship, it could lower the sex crime rate.