If this is true, I wonder if the HEDT 6-10 core options do any better. I'm using a $280 i7 5820K (sale at the time the i7 6700K was out). It would be nice to know if there is a difference. Of course, we will have to be able to measure the differences to know. I imagine FCAT would work.
Wouldn't lag show up in slowing down the production of frames? FCAT can see that, though it might be a slow down over a period of time, vs inconsistent frame times. Minimums should show that, but most games still show then i7 7700K with better minimums (not all games). Maybe this is something that shows up in a few games, but not most.I don't think this is a frame pacing issue for intel though so FCAT won't show what users are reporting. It's more like lag, where the CPU can't draw the scene fast enough in complex scenes. The best way would be to go to that same spot in GTA V and try reproduce what Jayz2cents was doing.
Wouldn't lag show up in slowing down the production of frames? FCAT can see that, though it might be a slow down over a period of time, vs inconsistent frame times. Minimums should show that, but most games still show then i7 7700K with better minimums (not all games). Maybe this is something that shows up in a few games, but not most.
I'd think FCAT is the best tool to explore all those areas, even if it isn't only frame latency that we'd be looking at.
Just like freezing Skylake cpus which come to beat Ryzen...Anyone else find it funny that we have a ryzen fails at gaming thread right beside the ryzen has smoother gaming thread?
What a crazy world we live in.
Its a dick waving contest, and in every dick waving contest the winner is the third party that isn't waving his dick, rather having his way with the women of the two guys waving their dicks.Anyone else find it funny that we have a ryzen fails at gaming thread right beside the ryzen has smoother gaming thread?
What a crazy world we live in.
Everyone on this forum should see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50<br /><br /><br />Ryzen-The tech presses loses the plot
I just wanted to point out that in the 2 years since the 6700k was released, I never saw one thread or complaint that someone's 4970,6700 or 7700 had stuttering problems, now all of a sudden everyone who had a 4970, 6700k,7700k @ 4.5+ for some reason bought a proven slower Ryzen cpu is saying that there gameplay is now smoother.
If your gameplay was smooth for the past 3 years, how is it now filled with stutter?
If you didn't own a 4970/ 6700/7700k before, what are you comparing it too?
It just don't make any sense. I call BS.
Yeah its weird for sure, in a few weeks i guess ill be able to see for myself. If amazon ever gets my freaking ram in stock and shipped.
I just wanted to point out that in the 2 years since the 6700k was released, I never saw one thread or complaint that someone's 4970,6700 or 7700 had stuttering problems, now all of a sudden everyone who had a 4970, 6700k,7700k @ 4.5+ for some reason bought a proven slower Ryzen cpu is saying that there gameplay is now smoother.
If your gameplay was smooth for the past 3 years, how is it now filled with stutter?
If you didn't own a 4970/ 6700/7700k before, what are you comparing it too?
It just don't make any sense. I call BS.
Come on really man,? one game and in 2 spots in the game? that could be a thousand other things besides the cpu. Your slow gpu?6700K is still a great processor, but let's not pretend there are zero games that bring it to its knees.
Battlefield 1 multiplayer is one of them. 64 player operations maps in Battlefield 1, especially Amiens with its narrow streets where you may have 50+ players in the same alleyway + vehicles is a prime example. Sure I am spending less than 0.1% of my frame times at potato, but if I'm trying desperately to not get killed, it's really irritating to have those massive frame drops because my CPU is maxed out. It was similarly annoying when my i5 3570K (OC) was tapped out and was my original excuse to upgrade to i7-6700K.
Of course, that's just one scenario. The main benefit of Ryzen's 8C/16T versus my 6700K rig is that I no longer have to close out a bunch of apps or my VM in order to get a smooth gaming experience.
Hell, I can even stream using OBS while gaming and still be smooth...
I'd also like to see a i7 6900K in the mix OC'ed to 4.0Ghz (or 3.9). This would show if the difference, if there is one, is due to more cores, or architecture.I wish someone would set up a blind testing. Two systems: One with Ryzen and the other with an intel CPU like the i7-7700K. Then have multiple people play on those systems without knowing which one is which. If a convincing portion of those people claim that gaming was smoother on the Ryzen system then it's not a placebo.
I'd also like to see a i7 6900K in the mix OC'ed to 4.0Ghz (or 3.9). This would show if the difference, if there is one, is due to more cores, or architecture.
Come on really man,? one game and in 2 spots in the game? that could be a thousand other things besides the cpu.
That justifies Ryzen cpu's are smoother.?
I guess you think my post prior #61 doesn't make sense?
Where is your thread on how your stock 6700k was stuttering sooo bad that it was frustrating you?
can choose to believe people like me, or Wendell at Level1Techs, or the dozens of others including respected reviewers who've commented on the smoothness of Ryzen gaming - or not
You should post all the names of the reviews that say Ryzen is smoother and look back at all of their reviews and see if there is ONE just ONE time they complain about the smoothness of gameplay of any i7 cpu in the past 5 years.
My guess you will not find one.
Why do you think that is?!
Because its BS, that's why.
I just wanted to point out some facts. I'm out of here.
I can't argue about someone's opinion, its impossible and makes no sense to try.
I made my point, you guys can continue your opinions are now facts thread..
You should post all the names of the reviews that say Ryzen is smoother and look back at all of their reviews and see if there is ONE just ONE time they complain about the smoothness of gameplay of any i7 cpu in the past 5 years.
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Me, too. Infractions can't hide the truth.You called BS on people coming from an i7 feeling that gaming is smoother on Ryzen. I happen to have an i7-6700K rig, i5-3570K rig and a Ryzen rig. Two Ryzen rigs, actually.
If it really was "a thousand other things besides the CPU", it's very odd that I don't hit the limits of my CPU in gaming any more. Just like it was odd how my stutters in certain games on my i5 disappeared when I upgraded to the i7. Huh. Strange.
I'm quite pleased with the upgrade. You can choose to believe people like me, or Wendell at Level1Techs, or the dozens of others including respected reviewers who've commented on the smoothness of Ryzen gaming - or not. Doesn't make a difference to me. If you're satisfied with your rig's performance, you're satisfied with your rig's performance.