Does this beer taste like bitter piss because I don't like IPA's or what?

Ns1

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seriously, all I taste is bitter. Is this pliny the elder shit supposed to be any better?

 

KeithTalent

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Could be too hoppy for you, so you may not be an IPA guy. Most IPAs are pretty hoppy, some more than others.

KT
 

bobdole369

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Dogfish Head IPA is a "good beer", better than 98% of what American's drink. It's not a top-end belgian import, but its far from budweiser and Corona. IPA's are made with a large amount of hops. The "bitter" is what makes it good. I've had good and bad IPA's too. Sometimes they are ridiculously bitter and sometimes they are skunky just like every other beer can get.

IPA's aren't for everybody. My wife can't stand it, I can't get enough! She prefers more of a full-bodied malty flavor, I can't stand that.

Different strokes, different folks.
 

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Hops are an acquired taste. I'm not a fan of overly hoppy brews. That's not a casual beer. It's love/hate kinda thing.
 

Ns1

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I might just hate IPA's then.

I'll give this pliny the elder a shot and then if that's a bust I'll just write off IPA's for a few years.
 

KeithTalent

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Yeah, I like straight IPAs, but the double/triple/extra hoppy IPAs are too much for me. I like something a bit more balanced.

KT
 

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I might just hate IPA's then.

I'll give this pliny the elder a shot and then if that's a bust I'll just write off IPA's for a few years.

Yeah, that's an Imperial IPA. Not for the faint of heart.
 

ElFenix

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IF IT DOES NOT HAVE HUGE HOP FLAVOR IT SUCKS AND I KNOW IT SUCKS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DRINK IT AND I'M DEFINITELY COOLER FOR LIKING REALLY HOPPY THINGS THAT OVERWHELM EVERYTHING ELSE AND CAN'T APPRECIATE SUBTLE FLAVORS

/beeradvocate
 

CRXican

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I'm not an IPA fan so I feel your pain. Many are terrible.

Then my friend fed me some Pliney the Elder and it was great. Gotta shop around.
 

Ns1

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FWIW I don't like a lot of IPAs, but I thought DFH 90MIN IPA was really good.

Bought one of these yesterday, will probably enjoy it more than DFH =X




$4 for 1600ml!!! Now if I could only find korean/japanese beer glasses...
 
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That's an Imperial IPA. If you're kind of "meh" about IPAs to begin with, an Imperial IPA is just murder. They generally have double the hops of a traditional IPA, and even though they also have more malts (which makes them sweeter and gives a higher alcohol content), they can be overwhelmingly bitter. I'd recommend the Lagunitas IPA; it's fairly widely available and it's a fairly good representation of a basic IPA. if you don't like that, you're generally not going to like the stronger, more hoppy IPAs (especially the imperials).
 

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IF IT DOES NOT HAVE HUGE HOP FLAVOR IT SUCKS AND I KNOW IT SUCKS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DRINK IT AND I'M DEFINITELY COOLER FOR LIKING REALLY HOPPY THINGS THAT OVERWHELM EVERYTHING ELSE AND CAN'T APPRECIATE SUBTLE FLAVORS

/beeradvocate

LOL! So true.

Hand feel: The bottle is cold and clamy in my hand. It's temperature is actually warmer than the perfect serving temperator 53.74 degrees F would suggest. The bottle is a traditional style with high quality stamping around the neck. I felt they cheaped out on the cap though using the 14 bend crimped cap instead of the better sealing 18 crimps.

Pour: As I poured the glass it came out with amber waves of grain that took me back as a kid when I used to run through wheat fields owned by my grandparents. As the beverage hit the bottom of the glass a rich frothy head formed and thousands of little bubbles formed and efversessed their way up the sides of the glass.

Smell: It was like making love to a lumberjack. Piney oils. Pine tree air freshener. It was like a douglass fir was jambed up my nostrils. It was intoxicating.

Taste: I can sense the leathery hands of the Cascade region farmer that picked these beloved hops. The limestone rocks that filtered the water are there on the edges of my tounge. Strong prickling needles jabbing at every corner of my mouth. As I drink this feels like swallowing a pine cone that was set on fire.

Rating: A+++
 

Paladin3

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IF IT DOES NOT HAVE HUGE HOP FLAVOR IT SUCKS AND I KNOW IT SUCKS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DRINK IT AND I'M DEFINITELY COOLER FOR LIKING REALLY HOPPY THINGS THAT OVERWHELM EVERYTHING ELSE AND CAN'T APPRECIATE SUBTLE FLAVORS

/beeradvocate

Funny and so very true.
 
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not the beers I usually drink (mass produced stuff: newcastle, asahi, other asian beers, corona, to some extent heineken/stella)

well your general beer taste/experience seems pretty similar to me. Those are all pretty harmless beers.
 

lokiju

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Yes. As everyone else has said. More hops = more bitter.

IPA's = bitter

Not for you and not for me.

Some people cannot get enough and the more bitter it taste somehow the better it is. Hard to imagine as bitter is and always has been a bad taste IMO.
 

satyajitmenon

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LOL! So true.

Hand feel: The bottle is cold and clamy in my hand. It's temperature is actually warmer than the perfect serving temperator 53.74 degrees F would suggest. The bottle is a traditional style with high quality stamping around the neck. I felt they cheaped out on the cap though using the 14 bend crimped cap instead of the better sealing 18 crimps.

Pour: As I poured the glass it came out with amber waves of grain that took me back as a kid when I used to run through wheat fields owned by my grandparents. As the beverage hit the bottom of the glass a rich frothy head formed and thousands of little bubbles formed and efversessed their way up the sides of the glass.

Smell: It was like making love to a lumberjack. Piney oils. Pine tree air freshener. It was like a douglass fir was jambed up my nostrils. It was intoxicating.

Taste: I can sense the leathery hands of the Cascade region farmer that picked these beloved hops. The limestone rocks that filtered the water are there on the edges of my tounge. Strong prickling needles jabbing at every corner of my mouth. As I drink this feels like swallowing a pine cone that was set on fire.

Rating: A+++

Ahahahahahahaa.

Personally, I like the stuff Stone Brewery puts out. Not too hoppy.
 

gorcorps

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Sounds like you don't like IPAs. I don't either and that was pretty much my description of them. Beverages shouldn't be that bitter... it's just awful.
 

Wyndru

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I've never been a Dogfish Head fan. Their reality show was interesting though.

I do like IPA's though. I really liked Surly IPA.

 

EvilYoda

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DFH's 90-minute is definitely a hoppier beer to start with if you're not used to drinking IPAs.

I'm also very jealous that it's apparently so easy for you to just go out and find Pliny the Elder. I had it for the first time when I was working in Tacoma earlier this year and loved it.

That said, my sister's the IPA fanatic...I still prefer Belgian beers along with strong dark beers.
 

CRXican

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LOL! So true.

Hand feel: The bottle is cold and clamy in my hand. It's temperature is actually warmer than the perfect serving temperator 53.74 degrees F would suggest. The bottle is a traditional style with high quality stamping around the neck. I felt they cheaped out on the cap though using the 14 bend crimped cap instead of the better sealing 18 crimps.

Pour: As I poured the glass it came out with amber waves of grain that took me back as a kid when I used to run through wheat fields owned by my grandparents. As the beverage hit the bottom of the glass a rich frothy head formed and thousands of little bubbles formed and efversessed their way up the sides of the glass.

Smell: It was like making love to a lumberjack. Piney oils. Pine tree air freshener. It was like a douglass fir was jambed up my nostrils. It was intoxicating.

Taste: I can sense the leathery hands of the Cascade region farmer that picked these beloved hops. The limestone rocks that filtered the water are there on the edges of my tounge. Strong prickling needles jabbing at every corner of my mouth. As I drink this feels like swallowing a pine cone that was set on fire.

Rating: A+++

LOL

like swallowing a pine cone that was set on fire
 
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