Does 'Time' relate to Temperature?

UberDave

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Since it takes 'time' for something to change its temperature aka something is 81F and something 30F touches it and then the heat distributes, right? Well what about the 'infinate' issue? Something that is 81F will (math wise) be infinatly be 80.999999999999999...F etc since there is a infinate amount of decimal places behind that number, would that result in a 'freeze' in time? That temp would never reach 80F or below, right? If you think about it, it's weird. Maybe the solutions to time travel lies with something with temperature. Or maybe Temperature doesn't even exsist?



This was just something I thought of when I was driving around the past few days.
What do you think?
-Dave
 

Scootin159

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If two things of different temperatures come in contact with each other (actually technically they don't need to even touch), the hotter one will pass heat to the cooler one until they equate in temperature. I'm not sure what you're getting at here though....
 

gopunk

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i don't think the physical world cares about infinite decimal places. or else just about everything would be frozen... right?
 

UberDave

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Eh, I have a hard time expressing my thoughts and putting them down.... hopefully someone can draw something from it
 

SpecialEd

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yes... the older you get, the warmer you need it to be... my dad sets the temperature at like 90 freakin degrees in his car. I always think i'm going to pass out when he's driving.
 

pulse8

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<< This was just something I thought of when I was driving around the past few days. >>

I just think of nekkid women.
 

Jzero

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<< Or maybe Temperature doesn't even exsist? >>

Temperature is a man-made construct devised to help quantify motion or kinetic energy at the molecular level. At high temperatures, molecules move very quickly, and at absolute zero, the molecules do not move at all.

So basically, since the idea of temperature is man-made based on our observations, this problem would only occur if we measured it that way by measuring the temperature changes over extremely minute time periods.....
 

Stang46

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I don't understand what you are getting at. Heat transfer between two bodies is driven by a temperature difference. The time required for something to change temperature is a function of the rate of heat transfer. If there is no temperature difference there will be no heat transfer and thus it will not require any time for an object to reach its steady state temp because it will already be at that temperature. It seems you are saying temperture change in an object is directly related to time, which it isn't.
 

Cattlegod

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<< Something that is 81F will (math wise) be infinatly be 80.999999999999999...F >>



that statement is false.

as 80.9999... and the number of 9's approaches infinity, it gets asymtotically close to 81, yet never reaches 81.

8.9999...... != 81

the reason math assumes 80.9999... = 81 is to simplify calculations because the error involved is negligable.





<< since there is a infinate amount of decimal places behind that number, would that result in a 'freeze' in time? >>



not sure where you are going with this, explain it a bit more. i'm not sure how you are going from a number to a freeze in time.
 

BD2003

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I get what he's saying, but it doesnt work that way in real life.

Tempurature is continuous, not discreet. It has nothing to do with numbers. Numbers are only used to represent it. Just like F is different from C, its just a different system measuring the same thing. You can add a million million zillion googleplex places, but that doesnt stop time, all it does is make the calculation more precise.
 

ttn1

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Get your Phd in Physics and then spend about 10 more years postulating your hypotheses and maybe you will come up with an answer. My guess is that you will probably fail, but you might get lucky and prove me wrong.

You are on the right track in one respect though. In certain experimants we do in my profession, holding temperature stable to within a few thousandths of a degree can be very helpful. It is just one more variable that would be helpful to neglect. Remove enough variables from an equation and you simplify your life greatly.
 
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