Dog Saves Owner in House Fire, Dies Trying to Save Cat

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BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.
And this is what I can't believe about cat owners: they will utterly change their lifestyles because their cats are too stupid to not knock things over, and they're doing it for an animal that couldn't care less if they're there or not.

My friend has to do that too: candle in a jar, paper towels in a cabinet, everything small and glass has to be put away.

Change their lifestyles? I don't know about that, having a dog would be more of a lifestyle change is you ask me. I've always had cats in my house growing up and the only changes it made to my "lifestyle" is not letting them run out of the house when the door is open, scooping the poop at nights and feeding them 2-3 times a day.. me thinks you and NFS4 have a thing against cats, maybe a bitchy female cat whacked yous with her paw one too many times for you to ever appreciate or like them.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.
And this is what I can't believe about cat owners: they will utterly change their lifestyles because their cats are too stupid to not knock things over, and they're doing it for an animal that couldn't care less if they're there or not.

My friend has to do that too: candle in a jar, paper towels in a cabinet, everything small and glass has to be put away.

I can't say I've really changed my lifestyle to suit my cats... And my cats do care if I'm there as much as a dog would. They come running to the door when I get home, they follow me around the house and hang out in whatever room I'm in, and one of them even sleeps under the covers in our bed (she waits until we're sleeping that crawls in between us).

This whole hating cats or hating dogs thing... it's really immature. They're both good pets, or they wouldn't be such popular pets.

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Change their lifestyles? I don't know about that, having a dog would be more of a lifestyle change is you ask me.

That's true, and that's why we haven't bought a dog yet even though we both really want one. We spend too much time away from the house to have a dog.
 
Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
goes to prove dogs are smarter...
Dogs rule!



Not in this case. If the dog were smart he would have left the cat in there.

This is a dog, not Sonny from I, Robot. A dog can't deduce which is the calculate risk. The dog got its owner out first, then heard another living being in trouble and went to try to help.

Poor doggie



It was a bad joke. I'm sad for the dog is all, he should have left the cat, but he just did as he was trained.
 

Aquila76

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I have a cat and a dog, and I doubt either of them would try to save me. My cat's too indifferent, and my dog would likely be the first thing to roast (dachshunds are pretty close to the ground). Maybe the smell of burning hot dog would wake me?
 

Ulfhednar

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Poor dog died because of the stupidity of its owner, not because of the cat.

No disabled person in their right mind would use candles in the knowledge their movement would rely on the intervention of a dog in an emergency, that's just an accident waiting to happen.
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
And this is what I can't believe about cat owners: they will utterly change their lifestyles because their cats are too stupid to not knock things over, and they're doing it for an animal that couldn't care less if they're there or not.

My friend has to do that too: candle in a jar, paper towels in a cabinet, everything small and glass has to be put away.

How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.
 

pmoa

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Dec 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.

Indeed.

Cats are going to knock crap over from time to time, it is inevitable.

dogs do as well...
 

pmoa

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Dec 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.

Indeed.

Cats are going to knock crap over from time to time, it is inevitable.

dogs do as well...
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: pmoa
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.

Indeed.

Cats are going to knock crap over from time to time, it is inevitable.

dogs do as well...

Usually lower to the gound though. A good cat is fully able to knock something off the highest place in your home. One of ours even broke through a 8 ft drop celing to escape the room he was being kept in for a bit.
 

jmdeathsquad

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Poor dog died because of the stupidity of its owner, not because of the cat.

No disabled person in their right mind would use candles in the knowledge their movement would rely on the intervention of a dog in an emergency, that's just an accident waiting to happen.

QFT
i was going to say something like this, but you said it much more eloquently than what i was thinking.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: Ilmater
And this is what I can't believe about cat owners: they will utterly change their lifestyles because their cats are too stupid to not knock things over, and they're doing it for an animal that couldn't care less if they're there or not.

My friend has to do that too: candle in a jar, paper towels in a cabinet, everything small and glass has to be put away.

How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.

My parents have two small dogs (one of which would be with me if our landlord allowed pets ). Their day consists of:

1) Waking up in my parents bed and at least one of them licking my dad in the face to wake him up. My mom doesn't bother b/c she says he's a lost cause (he never wants to get up in the morning and Jazmin and Buttons seem to know what time he needs to be up).

2) They run through the house like bats out of hell for a few minutes. When my dad is ready for work, he takes his briefcase out to the truck and Buttons and Jazmine follow along and do their business outside. He comes back inside, they follow.

3) Both parents at work, Buttons and Jazmin typically sleep on the sofa or watch TV (parents leave the TV on for them).

4) Mom comes home around noon and dogs go out to pee/poop again.

5) The rest of the day the two fight each other, fight over toys, love all over my mom and make "mommy sandwiches" as my mom calls it (my mom sits in the recliner and either dog is laying on left or right of her).

6) Dad comes home around 5-6 and the dogs go out again. Rest of the evening is spent fighting each other, eating, napping, running through the house, looking for attention, etc

But Buttons is truly my dog. Whenever I come home to visit, I might as well be the only person in the universe. She won't leave my side for two minutes. She demands to sit on my lap while I'm on my laptop, she demands to sit in my lap while I'm at the dinner table eating (she just curls up in my lap and goes to sleep and doesn't beg) and demands to sleep in the same bed as me.
 

Ilmater

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Jun 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.
You can train a dog to stop. When my friend yells at his cat, he just looks at him and continues doing what he was doing before. When he takes him off a counter he shouldn't be on, he just jumps right back up.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: pmoa
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mugs
That's why as a cat owner I use jar candles almost exclusively. Cats have a tendency to walk on things and knock things over. I only use non-jar candles on my kitchen counter, because the cats know they're not allowed on the counter.

Indeed.

Cats are going to knock crap over from time to time, it is inevitable.

dogs do as well...

Usually lower to the gound though. A good cat is fully able to knock something off the highest place in your home. One of ours even broke through a 8 ft drop celing to escape the room he was being kept in for a bit.

Mine used to do that too. Yeah dogs can knock things over, but dogs don't usually walk on furniture and stuff. My cats love to walk on my desk, and one likes to sit behind my monitors. The other will walk on the desk back and forth between me and the wife (it's an L-shaped desk that we share) until one of us will let him sit on our lap. Or if he can't sit on someone's lap, he'll sit between the keyboard and monitor (low enough that he doesn't block the screen).

My one cat actually likes to knock small objects off tables and watch them fall. He's fascinated by it.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Candles. Fire. In place where cat can get to. Bad.


Fire and humans still have a bit of an uneasy truce, and no one seems to understand that.




Originally posted by: NFS4
Fuggin' cats. I absolutely HATE them! You wouldn't see a damn cat trying to save anybody's life. They're lone, solitary animals that don't give a s*&t about anyone but themselves.

:thumbsup: to the dog. DOGS RULE!
Cat: "Oh damn, fire! Get out! Huh, human's going to burn alive. Damn, too bad."
cat starts to run
"Oh crap, that thing feeds me!! GOTTA SAVE IT!!!!!"

Cat saves owner's life, and immediately demands to be fed.


Safer alternative to candles
Get a Glade air toxifier if you want to make the house smell like something.
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Thraxen
How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.
You can train a dog to stop. When my friend yells at his cat, he just looks at him and continues doing what he was doing before. When he takes him off a counter he shouldn't be on, he just jumps right back up.

There is some truth to that, but you can teach cats to stay off counters. When they knock stuff over it's often an accident, so no real way to train them to stop that. The same is true for dogs.

Anyway, back to your original statement, I don't think cats change the way their owners live any more than dogs do. In fact, I'd say they alter it less in most cases.
 

fenrir

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Apr 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
goes to prove dogs are smarter...
Dogs rule!



Not in this case. If the dog were smart he would have left the cat in there.

This is a dog, not Sonny from I, Robot. A dog can't deduce which is the calculate risk. The dog got its owner out first, then heard another living being in trouble and went to try to help.

Poor doggie

So, because it is a dog, we assume it ran back inside to save the cat. Yeah, whatever. :roll:

Animals run back into burning buildings from time to time for no reason. For all we know the dog ran back in for a chew toy, the womans slippers, etc, etc. The dog helped save the woman and that is all we know.

Matt
 

Vonkhan

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Feb 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
goes to prove dogs are smarter...
Dogs rule!



Not in this case. If the dog were smart he would have left the cat in there.

This is a dog, not Sonny from I, Robot. A dog can't deduce which is the calculate risk. The dog got its owner out first, then heard another living being in trouble and went to try to help.

Poor doggie

So, because it is a dog, we assume it ran back inside to save the cat. Yeah, whatever. :roll:

Animals run back into burning buildings from time to time for no reason. For all we know the dog ran back in for a chew toy, the womans slippers, etc, etc. The dog helped save the woman and that is all we know.

Matt

DIAF
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Thraxen
How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.
You can train a dog to stop. When my friend yells at his cat, he just looks at him and continues doing what he was doing before. When he takes him off a counter he shouldn't be on, he just jumps right back up.

There is some truth to that, but you can teach cats to stay off counters. When they knock stuff over it's often an accident, so no real way to train them to stop that. The same is true for dogs.

Anyway, back to your original statement, I don't think cats change the way their owners live any more than dogs do. In fact, I'd say they alter it less in most cases.

This was a trained SERVICE DOG. Not some run of the mill mutt.
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Thraxen
How is this different from dogs? Dogs still knock crap over, tear sh!t up, and tear up the yard. Most dogs just can't/won't get on the top of counters and shelves, so they have less opportunity to knock small stuff over.
You can train a dog to stop. When my friend yells at his cat, he just looks at him and continues doing what he was doing before. When he takes him off a counter he shouldn't be on, he just jumps right back up.

Don't yell at a cat, use a spray bottle.
 
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Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Did the cat live? It could have been a feline plot to off the dog.

I was thinking the sam thing. The cat went to a window and meowed, saw the dog come in and jump out the window.
 
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