Dogs Left In Hot Cars

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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good dog owner. better sign. I think the controversy is in the source article that your article links to:

In the Central Valley, where the temperature regularly tops 100 degrees during the summer, no one wants to spot a dog sitting in a car, left there by an irresponsible owner.

But every summer, it happens. Someone is strolling through a sun-soaked parking lot comes across a dog sitting in the seat of a parked car. The windows might be rolled up or cracked ever so slightly. The pooch is usually panting.

What can be done?

Animal rights groups tell people to write down the license plate number of the car, try to track down its owner and, if all else fails, call 911 and wait for help. Legally, in California, that’s about all people can do right now, even if the dog is dying.

A bill making its way through the Legislature would give good Samaritans another tool.

Assemblyman Marc Steinorth, R-Rancho Cucamonga, is sponsoring AB 797, which would let Californians break into vehicles to spring a sweltering or freezing dog without fear of getting sued.

The only stipulations? Before breaking a window with a brick or a hammer vigilante-style, rescuers must call 911, verify that the car is indeed locked and there’s no other “reasonable” way to get in, and show that the dog is in imminent danger.

It’s a feel-good measure, for sure – one that only a handful of other states have adopted, among them Tennessee and Florida. But feel-good measures can come with consequences.

Debbie Tandoc, field vice president for the NORCAL Golden Retriever Club, was right when she told The Bee’s Jeremy B. White that “animal rights people just go off their rocker with this sort of thing.”

If that sounds outlandish, consider that, on its website, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals advises people to, yes, call 911 when they see a dog trapped in a hot car.

But “if the authorities are unresponsive or too slow and the dog’s life appears to be in imminent danger,” it continues, “find a witness (or several) who will back up your assessment, take steps to remove the suffering animal from the car, and then wait for authorities to arrive.”

This is PETA’s advice to everyone – even those Americans who don’t live in states that afford the kind of protections that AB 797 would.

The Legislature should be very careful with the language of this bill. The goal should be to strike a middle ground between the rights of animals and of the rights of their owners. California doesn’t need a law that emboldens self-styled superheroes who make it their mission to hastily free dogs from locked vehicles. They might have the moral high ground, but they shouldn’t get the legal one, too.

And, whether or not AB 797 passes, animal lovers should take the time to read up on the facts about the signs of a dog in distress.

While it’s true that dogs can overheat quickly, especially in a vehicle, because they can’t sweat, there are other reasons a dog might be panting and restless. Anxiety about being left alone, is one example. A keen eye can tell the difference.

Ideally, no dogs would ever be left in a hot car. But handling such situations when they arise should come down to common sense.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article80575572.html#storylink=cpy
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Idiots. If you can't take the dog in wherever you're going, leave them at home.
 

TheGardener

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good dog owner. better sign. I think the controversy is in the source article that your article links to:

You did point to a better article. I tend to think that the average Joe or Jane is not going to bother to call 911 before breaking the window. Maybe after the fact. One can always say that the dog was deemed to be eminent danger, while what they really just want is to punish the owner for being a douche.
 

skyking

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Nov 21, 2001
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did that once with one of the rotties. We stepped into an AM/PM to get something cold and left the camry running and locked with the AC on. People had gathered because he was agitated, panting. Yeah, he missed us
I pointed out that the car was running and AC on. They were like deer in the headlights. Whaaa?
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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What if they wanted to take the car as an easy score? Then can they break the window?
 

Paladin3

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Mar 5, 2004
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Another feel good law that will do little to protect someone from a lawsuit should they break the window of a car to "rescue" an animal. You will still end up in court trying to prove that the dog was actually in danger and there was no other option.

This law will embolden folks go looking for dogs in cars so they can break windows, feel like heroes and try to shame dog owners. The actually necessity of the "rescue" will be secondary to their crusade.

I often take my daughter's dog with me to visit the dog park and run errands. Some places he can go in with me, but others he can't. If I tell him to stay he curls up in the back and goes to sleep. Depending on the weather, I leave either the windows down, or the heater or air conditioner running for him.

If a dog is really in danger and no owner is around, go ahead and break the window and nobody is going to fault you. Just be sure, and not on a crusade or over reacting, or you are still going to be paying for a window.
 

KeithP

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Jun 15, 2000
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Leaving the car running is unbelievably stupid. I am surprised there isn't a law against doing that.

Simply enforce animal cruelty laws on those that violate the laws. Maybe they could add a law saying if you are convicted of a animal cruelty crime you can't own a pet for x number of years.

-KeithP
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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There isn't a law because it is not "unbelievably stupid". In my case it was locked and alarmed, and had a 100 pound rottweiler sitting in it for all of 3 minutes.
 

sswingle

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They just passed law in Ohio making it legal to break the car window. Takes effect, August 29th. Just in time for fall.
 

Sheep221

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It's not real, someone just printed the notice, put dog in car, took photo then took dog out and went back home to post it on the net. If you want to lock your car you have to remove ignition key, which very likely will turn off onboard electronics such as AC and radio.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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It's not real, someone just printed the notice, put dog in car, took photo then took dog out and went back home to post it on the net. If you want to lock your car you have to remove ignition key, which very likely will turn off onboard electronics such as AC and radio.

you know how i know you're under 16 years old?
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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It's not real, someone just printed the notice, put dog in car, took photo then took dog out and went back home to post it on the net. If you want to lock your car you have to remove ignition key, which very likely will turn off onboard electronics such as AC and radio.

Never owned a vehicle with remote start?
 
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