Doing work email off the clock for no pay

[looker001]

You need to realize difference between work and career. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A career is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with career responsibility.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: lykaon78
Its called getting ahead and being a good employee. It these economic times its pretty smart.

Working for free is smart? I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

LOL; that's why he's your boss.

Originally posted by: looker001
You need to realize difference between work and carrier. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A carrier is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with carrier responsibility.

I read this and I am astounded by your consistent use of "carrier"

 

[Tsaico]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: lykaon78
Its called getting ahead and being a good employee. It these economic times its pretty smart.

exactly...it seems that people always want some kind of reward or acknowledgment for their work..EVERY FUCKING TIME they do something.

Here's a clue folks....it's not all about the money.....you are going to have to go above and beyond what you WANT to do in this climate to just keep your job.

Hell in any climate that is smart.

When budget cuts and department cuts come around....(and they will)...who do you think will be on the chopping block first?

The guy who is willing to sacrifice a few hours on Saturday to make sure that on Monday he has less to worry about, and who comes in just to get things done for the sake of getting them done without any kind of expectation?

Or the guy who never shows unless there is something in his paycheck or some kind of reward like a day off?

Is this a guarantee you will keep your job?...nope, but when you go to your next employer begging for a position you can show him your work ethic and if your intelligent you will have documented what you did on your "day off" so you can provide him proof and he does not think you are just blowing smoke up his ass.

Wheezer, I am right there with you. At my current place, if it isn't their idea AND they do not get a gold star for doing, they do nothing... so annoying...

 

[Red Squirrel]

What I can't stand is teachers who send me tickets at 8:59pm when I finish at 9:00pm. GET A LIFE! Go home! It's like if they do on purpose too.

I've found myself actually catch up with stuff from home but I don't get too deep at it as I know I don't get paid. Now it's more dangerous as I setup a vpn to my house from work and from home I can now access my work PC external machine which has vpn access to all customers so I technically could do tons of work from home if I wanted to. I don't though. Now that they introduced the 9:00pm shift it helps a lot as I catch up during that time. The phone is more quiet after 5.

But yeah, there is such thing as workaholic and it's those people that work from home ALL THE TIME without pay. For management it's a bit different though, it's the can of worms you get into by going as manager. I respect lower level managers for all the work they do. Then you got those upper level managers that just sit there and get paid retarded amounts for playing solitaire.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: lykaon78
Its called getting ahead and being a good employee. It these economic times its pretty smart.

Working for free is smart? I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

LOL; that's why he's your boss.

Originally posted by: looker001
You need to realize difference between work and carrier. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A carrier is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with carrier responsibility.

I read this and I am astounded by your consistent use of "carrier"

ops should have been career just realized after i read it.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: looker001
You need to realize difference between work and carrier. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A carrier is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with carrier responsibility.

WTH is a carrier?

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: looker001
You need to realize difference between work and carrier. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A carrier is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with carrier responsibility.

WTH is a carrier?

A special bird that does all the work for you ..see above reply.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: lykaon78
Its called getting ahead and being a good employee. It these economic times its pretty smart.

Working for free is smart? I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

If your company is looking to lay some body off are they going to get rid of the person that day the bare minimum or are they going to get rid of the guy that goes above and beyond what he has to do? It's very smart to set yourself up to be more valuable than the other people around you when layoffs are likely.

I'm doing the same thing. I'm salaried but I was given overtime in certain situations. They just got rid of the overtime so my boss told us we aren't required to work it anymore. I still put in 3-4 hours of overtime a week just like I used to. If I'm getting more done for the same amount of pay who do you think they'll lay off?

 

[Imdmn04]

You sound very short sighted (typical hourly worker thinking), there is a reason that man working more hours than you is your boss.

For most white collar jobs (other than professional contractors/consultants), i.e. salaried jobs not paid by the hour, the compensation is for getting shit done before a deadline, whether that takes 5 mins or 100 hours in a week is irrelevant.

Most people that puts in extra time (at least the appearances of it) gets noticed for higher raises and promotions. Also, it reduces your chances of being laid off when the higher ups decides to trim the fat.

In essence, although it appears that "free" labor is put in at the time, the potential rewards is much greater later on. You think the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies all got there by being clock watchers? Once you get to a high level position in a corporation, director and above, you are pretty much on-call 24/7 on your blackberry when shit hits the fan and a tough decision needs to be made.

 

[KingGheedora]

When you have a career you care about you might decide to make the trade off of working on your own time to further your achievements. This can be considered an investment in yourself, as those who do this are more likely to get ahead. Yes, you aren't getting paid for it now, but the thought is that the extra work will pay off in the future.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: looker001
You need to realize difference between work and carrier. Work is what you described, coming to work and going home and not dong anything extra unless you get paid to do it. That means, not taking work home, not checking your email on the weekends, not coming in to the office on the weekend because you didn't have time to finish it during the week or it easier to do when less people are around etc.

A carrier is place that you want to work for long time, you willing to work as a team which means you do whatever needs to be done in order to get the project finished. Yes that means that you do check your email(s) on a weekends because someone took the time to send you that email and you should take the time to reply to it. It also means that you do come in to the office if it benefits the company/team etc. Yes you can and should manage your free time with carrier responsibility.

WTH is a carrier?

this

It's also the name of a company that make air conditioners.

 

[Megatomic]

I don't answer emails or work on reports from home, but I am on call every freaking day and do get called in several times a week. I, however, get paid for every minute I work for my employer.

 

[dighn]

I do it sometimes. I don't like it cuz I value my personal time, but that's how these jobs are.. (engineering). my boss is a workaholic and does it all the time (perhaps not entirely by choice either, but still..).

 

[rudder]

Maybe he will be off Monday and trying get stay ahead. I do this sometimes when I anticipate being out. If it takes me too long I keep track of the time.

 

[iamwiz82]

I am salaried but I work whenever necessary, it's my job and if I dont do it I am sure they could find someone else who would. Plus I enjoy seeing the company succeed (or even tread water in these times).

On the other hand, I have always been really well treated by my boss and my company. For some reason I am thinking that these two points go hand in hand...

 

[tm37]

I am constantly amazed by people who are amazed that some choose to check into work after the clock hit 5PM.

I work constantly and am basically tied to my Blackberry. I am in the office about 45~50 hours a week and usually am on the phone my entire way home.

Our customers expect to able to reach me. For e it is a mild inconvience yes but it has established my value. There are also items that are a five minute fix on monday night yet a 2 hour issue in Tuesday morning. I would rather give 5 minutes than have a major headache come Tuesday

If you want to work 8-5 work retail or find a factory job. If you work in a business setting usually there will be time where you have to stay a few minutes late or work through your lunch. Deal with it and realize the if you don't want to or bitch about it there are enough people out there that ar willing to do it you may not be needed anymore.

 

[FDF12389]

I check email once an hour on my days off and I'm not salaried. I make sure my systems are up as much as possible and like to catch problems before they happen, not after.

 

[Joemonkey]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I am salaried but I work whenever necessary, it's my job and if I dont do it I am sure they could find someone else who would. Plus I enjoy seeing the company succeed (or even tread water in these times).

On the other hand, I have always been really well treated by my boss and my company. For some reason I am thinking that these two points go hand in hand...

totally agree. Hell, next weekend I'm doing ~3 hours of work on Saturday and probably ~3 more on Sunday morning starting at 6am. Am I bitching? no, because there are days i take a 2.5 hour lunch or days I come in late, leave early, or have to go to the doctor.

I am in a salaried position so I try to not break it down to hourly pay but rather the automatic money I get 2x a month for doing my job when it needs to be done.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

I worked about 3 hours Saturday, and will likely work again next Saturday. This summer I worked about 8 hours every Saturday for almost 2 months. All for free as I'm salaried, although I did take an extra day off once summer was over.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: hungfarover
I'm here working overtime putting in some new network equipment, and to test the new stuff I log on to my workstation. I open email and see my boss has been doing email on Saturday afternoon. He's not getting paid for working on Saturday.

I can't understand why he'd be doing email on his day off for no pay.

Does anyone else do this? Don't get me wrong, I like my work and have no problem working after hours or odd hours, but it's called work for a reason. I don't work for free. There are other things I'd rather be doing.

Is this a serious post? I guess you're not a company man? I assume you're one of those guys that only comes into work when asked to not when there's work to be done?

For the record, I always answer emails away from work. Shows that you give a shit, obviously you don't.

 

[lokiju]

I'm a sysadmin and I'm always "on the clock" technically.

Sometimes you need to get shit done.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: lykaon78
Its called getting ahead and being a good employee. It these economic times its pretty smart.

Only in the private sector. Nobody in the public sector works an extra second past 8 hours unless they are getting overtime. If a salaried worker is in the rare position of coming in for OT, they will take that time and multiply it by 1.5 and use it as vacation time.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I agree with what everyone says about willingness to work, but it sucks when that snowballs into 65-70hrs a week.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

The guy I work under probably works 80 hours/week. I feel sad for his family.

The thing is, he works alot because he has no idea on how to manage time or to plan things appropriately. He does know how to have meetings every week and come up with ideas for tasks, but there is a total lack of planning. Oh, I can not be even 8 tasks a week to do when each require several days.

 

[blert]

Originally posted by: Codewiz
I check my work throughout the weekend. I don't get paid. I will be honest, it makes my weeks easier. I don't come into work to a firestorm first thing on Mondays. Now if I am busy doing the weekend then I won't worry about it. However, if I am just on the couch watching a movie, I will check the email.

Also lets me know who to avoid early Monday morning.

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