Dominion Voting sues Fox, OAN and Newsmax for $1.6B each over 2020 election claims.

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you2

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While it is fun to watch them eat their own, f' Fox investors. They knew what Fox was when they bought it.
Not really true if you are a long time investor; Fox has changed a lot since Trump's rise to power. While right leaning; they used to be a pretty decent news station; but most of the quality personal have either been fired (for sticking to the facts) or left in disgust and now you have a propaganda station.
 
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JEDI

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Hiding shit in discovery is kinda bad isnt it? A little bit?
I am shocked they actually turned over any incriminating evidence in the 1st place.

Txt msg I can understand since it's on their phone providers servers and out of their control.

But surprised not scrubbing any bad emails before turning them over to Dominion.
 

JEDI

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So can Dominion use the fact Fox hid stuff in discovery during the trial in front of jurors?
Painting a picture of pattern of lying and dealing in bad faith
 
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shortylickens

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So can Dominion use the fact Fox hid stuff in discovery during the trial in front of jurors?
Painting a picture of pattern of lying and dealing in bad faith
thats for the judge to decide but there are indeed rules about what you can and cannot reveal during a trial with regards to pre-trial preparation. (I learned that from my mother)
 
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IronWing

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Not really true if you are a long time investor; Fox has changed a lot since Trump's rise to power. While right leaning; they used to be a pretty decent news station; but most of the quality personal have either been fired (for sticking to the facts) or left in disgust and now you have a propaganda station.
Fox has been terribad for decades.
 

Dave_5k

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So can Dominion use the fact Fox hid stuff in discovery during the trial in front of jurors?
Painting a picture of pattern of lying and dealing in bad faith
Dominion was seeking that, but from what I read so far, not been granted. But Dominion has demonstrated more examples of Fox failing in its discovery obligations - just delivering some materials now a week before jury selection - and the judge just today has now sanctioned Fox for this
 

UNCjigga

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The judge is attempting to be impartial and is appointing an independent judge/special master to review whether FOX intentionally lied or misled the court during discovery. It’s gonna be hard to prove, but if this second judge agrees, it’s likely you’ll see more charges/elevated damages and another push from Dominion for summary judgment.

Edit: Didn’t realize the actual trial starts on Monday.
 

cytg111

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Dominion was seeking that, but from what I read so far, not been granted. But Dominion has demonstrated more examples of Fox failing in its discovery obligations - just delivering some materials now a week before jury selection - and the judge just today has now sanctioned Fox for this

Goddamn, from that article

"Grossberg, a former producer for Fox hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson, has sued Fox News and said her deposition was coerced. In an amended filing Tuesday, she said she had recorded conversations with Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and others."

Fox is like.... a crime syndicate?
 

woolfe9998

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I doubt the sanctions will prejudice Fox News much before the jury, because the judge won't want to be reversed on appeal. However, the sanctions imposed here are less important than whatever the newly discovered evidence is going to show. We already know what is in much of the discovery thus far. If Fox News was hiding this I can only assume it's going to get worse for them.
 

Moonbeam

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Fox was only trying to help their lying psychopath President overthrow democracy by doubling down on his lie he was cheated out of his rightful victory. This is just what right wing media outlets do to maintain viewership. Their job is to brainwash idiot Republican voters so they never question and potentially wake up. You can't have Jan 6 without such misinformed people.

I mean, come on. when your whole raison d'être is to promulgate right wing partisan lies no matter how irrational you know them to be, how are you supposed to simultaneously consider that when you suggest the voting machines are rigged but prove not to be, you open the door to high damage law suits. I mean, how unfair can it be to expect someone to show all the cards that reveals they were lying in the first place and then expect them to come vlean about it. Surely the only be;ievable lie they can tell was that they were lying in those emails where they admit to it. Come on. What news organization willing to help foment Jan 6 is goimg to tell the truth about anything. It's just so mean to go after them for 1.6 billion. Right?
 

HomerJS

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A GQP can pardon Trump for federal stuff however...

Gov Kemp would have to pack the GA parole board and get them to pardon Trump which I can see happening

NY not about to elect a Republican Gov until maybe after Trump drops dead.

Not sure about the E. Jean Carroll rape case since that is civil.
I doubt the sanctions will prejudice Fox News much before the jury, because the judge won't want to be reversed on appeal. However, the sanctions imposed here are less important than whatever the newly discovered evidence is going to show. We already know what is in much of the discovery thus far. If Fox News was hiding this I can only assume it's going to get worse for them.
Do you think the Dominion lawyers in a trial about lying and defamation can at trial bring up the judge found Fox to have lied to him during discovery?
 

UNCjigga

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LOLOLOL
Producer: “Was there any issue with the machines [found during the audit in Georgia]??”

Trump spokesperson “Uhhh…can I go off the record here? The Secretary of State found no issue with the machines”.
 

you2

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LOLOLOL
Producer: “Was there any issue with the machines [found during the audit in Georgia]??”

Trump spokesperson “Uhhh…can I go off the record here? The Secretary of State found no issue with the machines”.
He said more than that; he said the vote was amazingly accurate. I mean this was known of course since Georgia hand counted the votes during the recount.....
 
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Vic

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RWNJ media is finally waking up to the end of Sullivan being a lot worse for them than for mainstream media.
 

sportage

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Despite any monetary settlement from Fox, Dominion must also insist on a statement of admission of guilt from Fox News and from individual Fox News hosts i.e. Carlson and Hannity if Dominion is to maintain any credibility from all of this.
If Dominion only cares about the money and no accountably from Fox then Carlson and Hannity will continue to spread their lies on air AND claiming the settlement was only a SIMPLE EVERY-DAY BUSINESS MATTER.
If a settlement is in fact in the works, that second part i.e. the admission of guilt from Fox could be the major sticking point. For Fox to admit guilt will be a bitter pill for Fox to swallow. Dominion will certainly look very bad, worse than Fox, if there is no admission of guilt from Fox News.
 

akugami

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Fox is trying hard to settle at last minute now, judge delayed trial a day to allow for settlement talks it appears...

If I was Dominion, I'd take Fox to the cleaners money wise. I would also absolutely insist on a public admission of guilt, to be aired before and during their all of their "news" segments, as well as before and during shows such as Tucker Carlson's, and such admissions of guilt are not to end until after the next presidential election fully concludes.

If there is no public admission of guilt, the United States, and a hope for forward progress, will be the ultimate losers.
 

you2

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Despite any monetary settlement from Fox, Dominion must also insist on a statement of admission of guilt from Fox News and from individual Fox News hosts i.e. Carlson and Hannity if Dominion is to maintain any credibility from all of this.
If Dominion only cares about the money and no accountably from Fox then Carlson and Hannity will continue to spread their lies on air AND claiming the settlement was only a SIMPLE EVERY-DAY BUSINESS MATTER.
If a settlement is in fact in the works, that second part i.e. the admission of guilt from Fox could be the major sticking point. For Fox to admit guilt will be a bitter pill for Fox to swallow. Dominion will certainly look very bad, worse than Fox, if there is no admission of guilt from Fox News.
Would be nice but unfortunately in a civil case they can take whatever they want. We can hope they require an admission of guilt but don't be shocked if they take the money and run. Of course they would likely get more from a trial; but trials can be long drawn out event; not so much the immediate trial but then the appeal process....
 
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