More stuff to ponder. Remember the name Sydney Powell? She has now caused this...
More stuff to ponder. Remember the name Sydney Powell? She has now caused this...I really disagree with this evaluation. While going to trial might provide more juicy tidbits we (the public) enjoy seeing; at the end of the day settling for this massive amount is a guarantee slap against fox. It is not clear how much dominion will actually receive (after lawyer fee) or if the judge will rebuke fox further for lying (I suspect since this is a civil case the settlement ends all aspect of the case; though I would like to see more). Also it really is unusual for a settlement of this sort to be public which in itself is a huge win for dominion and a demonstration of just how strong their case was against fox.
Know why Fox settled? They can continue their M.O. of lies and misinformation. By doing this they continue to gain audience. Gain of audience gains ad dollars. This allows them to pay off the next lawsuit and the Democracy suffers. Want to see suffering, read the story of the election workers in GA a mother and daughter.I really disagree with this evaluation. While going to trial might provide more juicy tidbits we (the public) enjoy seeing; at the end of the day settling for this massive amount is a guarantee slap against fox. It is not clear how much dominion will actually receive (after lawyer fee) or if the judge will rebuke fox further for lying (I suspect since this is a civil case the settlement ends all aspect of the case; though I would like to see more). Also it really is unusual for a settlement of this sort to be public which in itself is a huge win for dominion and a demonstration of just how strong their case was against fox.
Yup this settlement was My Pillow funded.Know why Fox settled? They can continue their M.O. of lies and misinformation. By doing this they continue to gain audience. Gain of audience gains ad dollars. This allows them to pay off the next lawsuit and the Democracy suffers.
A fair chunk of reason is because Murdoch very much doesn't want to be questioned under oath.Know why Fox settled?
The smartmatic lawsuit is ongoing. This is only the first judgment against Fox.
Wow! Guess it was always about the money. A few shocking leaks and a bit of brinksmanship and Murdoch just said pay the bastards. Guess the trial would have revealed more damning evidence - and Fox would have had to eat it while the trial took place.Here's the Fox statement. Not much.
“We are pleased to have reached a settlement of our dispute with Dominion Voting Systems. We acknowledge the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false," Fox said in a statement. “This settlement reflects FOX’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. We are hopeful that our decision to resolve this dispute with Dominion amicably, instead of the acrimony of a divisive trial, allows the country to move forward from these issues.”
What a crock.
So the people should sue Fox News?It is not a private corporation's responsibility to defend fair election. It's the people's.
The government is supposed to deal with this.So the people should sue Fox News?
You mean the same government that is in the pockets of these big corporations, which includes Fox?The government is supposed to deal with this.
You mean the same government that is in the pockets of these big corporations, which includes Fox?
For one: Fox News.then come up with a government that is not allowed to be in pocket of big corps. or at least limit their influence. I mean how is it possible for Citizen United to stand?
For one: Fox News.
So the question becomes, whats the weakest link?
Apologize for what - telling them what they want to hear? The problem is if he didn't say what they wanted to hear - they (the viewers) would simply shop around for a station that did (such as newsmax). I'm not saying it is right or good but i am saying the problem is the ignorance you find in so many fools.Rupert should have been court ordered to go ring the doorbells of his viewers and apologize. Unannounced and at night would be preferable, obviously.
I don't know if that even matters. The real reason they settled is because they were given what they wanted, the ability to dance around the fact that they lied. They don't have to admit on air that they lied, and in fact the statement made by their lawyers does not even say they lied:A fair chunk of reason is because Murdoch very much doesn't want to be questioned under oath.
We acknowledge the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false. This settlement reflects FOX’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standard.
Yes. Now how you gonna break it?Maybe allowing money to blatantly influence politics is a bad idea?
Get real; even if they went to court and lost they wouldn't have to admit they lied. They would just call it a leftist plot to shut them down.I don't know if that even matters. The real reason they settled is because they were given what they wanted, the ability to dance around the fact that they lied. They don't have to admit on air that they lied, and in fact the statement made by their lawyers does not even say they lied:
Sadly very few FOX News watchers will ever know or care about how Fox lied to them because of this settlement. I view FOX and their disinformation campaign as a major cause of 1/06 and the caustic political atmosphere currently in the US. I would have at least liked part of the settlement to have included on air acknowledgments that they had lied. And for the damage done to this country FOX News should be banned from broadcasting in the US. Yes I think they should just go to hell.I don't know if that even matters. The real reason they settled is because they were given what they wanted, the ability to dance around the fact that they lied. They don't have to admit on air that they lied, and in fact the statement made by their lawyers does not even say they lied:
Notice it does not admit that they intentionally misled their viewers, only that the courts found that certain claims about Dominion were false, and even says that they are committed to the 'Highest Journalistic Standard.' In the end Fox News didn't even have to say it lied. They will very soon be spinning this as they made a minor mistake in the story and they are the victim as a big corporation sued them over some minor mistake.
I bet that by next week all their big shows will be airing exposes on lawsuit abuse and how major a problem it is in this nation as liberals try to silence news broadcasters from telling you the truth.
Exactly - the problem with conservative media is the viewers demand these lies. Even if Fox closed up shop tomorrow those viewers would just go to OAN or Newsmax or whatever.Personally I think that a settlement requiring disclosure for nearly $800M and acknowledgement of wrongdoing is very strong. While certainly a trial could be more damaging, it's a pipe dream to think that it would somehow convince Fox loyalists to abandon ship.
How much do you think it would take?If we had brains about it we'd crowd source an influence campaign targeting Smartmatic to not fold like Dominion did.
Fold is not the right word... Muck the hand more like it.
Personally I think that a settlement requiring disclosure for nearly $800M and acknowledgement of wrongdoing is very strong. While certainly a trial could be more damaging, it's a pipe dream to think that it would somehow convince Fox loyalists to abandon ship.
Well, money has always been a part of politics. Money may not be able to buy love (not real love), but it sure can buy power. Things got way out of control in the Gilded Age in America, TDR got elected, congress wasn't completely bought and they got it under control.Maybe allowing money to blatantly influence politics is a bad idea?
i thought settlement with fox admitting to wrong doing was good but the hosts/mouth pieces that spewed the lies got away with it was bad.I agree ... Was it a homerun? No, but it’s surely a double. Some of the inner workings of Fox news got exposed to the public, and the large monetary judgment will put Fox and other media sources intentionally spreading lies and disinformation on notice and maybe prevent them from engaging in their worst excesses. This was bad for Fox News, and what’s bad for them is good for everyone else. It could have been worse for them, but they also could have totally gotten away with everything.
If Murdoch and his lawyers had settled before discovery, none of what we now know about Fox’s inner workings ... including how they really felt about Trump would have been made public. Now the entire steaming, sordid mess is out there for all to see. It won’t make a rat’s ass to the MAGAs, even if they were to hear of it; but you can bet that Smartmatic have been taking notes.
Since the news of the settlement, the narrative in the MAGAsphere is they are wondering if Dominion plans to use the settlement money on software development, to make their voting machines fully capable of cheating for Democrats without ever getting caught. They view if Dominion machines are used, results will be 99% Democrat; 1% Republican, in the next election. So yes, the FOX viewers are a lost at sea.