Dominion Voting sues Fox, OAN and Newsmax for $1.6B each over 2020 election claims.

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shortylickens

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A funny nugget confirmed from Dominion suit. The kink going on @Fox

I LOVE that all this criminal behavior is coming into the light, but I know it won't matter. Fox will continue abusing women and minorities, and their rabid zealot fanbase will completely ignore it. And they'll continue gobbling up nazi propaganda and call it Patriotism the whole time.
This is pointless. Nothing will ever change. We need a real solution to the decades of propaganda and brain washing. And I don't know what that is yet.
 

hal2kilo

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I LOVE that all this criminal behavior is coming into the light, but I know it won't matter. Fox will continue abusing women and minorities, and their rabid zealot fanbase will completely ignore it. And they'll continue gobbling up nazi propaganda and call it Patriotism the whole time.
This is pointless. Nothing will ever change. We need a real solution to the decades of propaganda and brain washing. And I don't know what that is yet.
Where's the eeuww! emoji.
 

trenchfoot

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Whether Dominion chops the head off the right wing snake or lets it bleed out is fine with me. I'm just hoping there are consequences to be paid in spades again when the "conservative" (lol) radical right wing propaganda apparatchiks pull off another disingenuous frontal assault against the system of voting in the upcoming general election, especially so if another blue tsunami hits them at the polls.
 

fskimospy

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Whether Dominion chops the head off the right wing snake or lets it bleed out is fine with me. I'm just hoping there are consequences to be paid in spades again when the "conservative" (lol) radical right wing propaganda apparatchiks pull off another disingenuous frontal assault against the system of voting in the upcoming general election, especially so if another blue tsunami hits them at the polls.
While I am fully in support of Fox getting sued into oblivion I hope we all realize that something else will just rise in its place. The problem is that the right wing audience in America DEMANDS to be lied to, not that Fox is somehow tricking them.
 

trenchfoot

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While I am fully in support of Fox getting sued into oblivion I hope we all realize that something else will just rise in its place. The problem is that the right wing audience in America DEMANDS to be lied to, not that Fox is somehow tricking them.


Absolutely. The right wing's normal response to being punished for their acts of malfeasance is adding more lunacy to the insanity that the right wing has been infecting itself with in order to keep its false sense of "legitimacy" within its members. Practicing echo chamber propagandizing can only lead to a worsening of the illness the GOP has purposely brought upon itself.
 

dawp

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Maybe Mikie should have thought his company before signing on to the conspiracy crap.

wonder how many he still has working for him.
 

fleshconsumed

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While I am fully in support of Fox getting sued into oblivion I hope we all realize that something else will just rise in its place. The problem is that the right wing audience in America DEMANDS to be lied to, not that Fox is somehow tricking them.
Well, whose fault is that? GOP and right wing media have been grooming their electorate with lies for decades. The Reagan "welfare queen" myth, the demonization of anyone opposed to Iraq war, things really kicked off into overdrive when Obama got elected and we heard things like "he's a secret Muslim" or "he was born in Kenya", and now we have full blown anti-vaxx propaganda, Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy theories, and of course election denial best represented by 2000 Mules.

Now, yes, you're right, Fox going under, as unlikely as it is, cannot undo 50 years of deliberate damage, but they were/are part of the problem. They're just as culpable as every elected official stoking unfounded conspiracy theories. Taking them down will at the very least remove one of the big avenues for spreading lies, which just might give enough breathing room until demographics really start working against GOP party with boomers dying off and Millenials/Z taking their place as dominant voting group.
 
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shortylickens

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While I am fully in support of Fox getting sued into oblivion I hope we all realize that something else will just rise in its place. The problem is that the right wing audience in America DEMANDS to be lied to, not that Fox is somehow tricking them.
yeah but theres also this thing called Precedence. If we can establish it is not only possible but profitable to ruin propagandists we can slow it down enough for the nation to correct its more serious issues.
 

hal2kilo

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Absolutely. The right wing's normal response to being punished for their acts of malfeasance is adding more lunacy to the insanity that the right wing has been infecting itself with in order to keep its false sense of "legitimacy" within its members. Practicing echo chamber propagandizing can only lead to a worsening of the illness the GOP has purposely brought upon itself.
Their only analysis for post election loses is that they just aren't crazy enough yet.
 

woolfe9998

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yeah but theres also this thing called Precedence. If we can establish it is not only possible but profitable to ruin propagandists we can slow it down enough for the nation to correct its more serious issues.

Agree. The way I see it, in order to profer a conspiracy theory that an election was stolen, you've got to accuse some person(s) or company(s) by name as they did here with Dominion and Smartmatic. Which then opens you up to defamation suits from the named persons or companies. If Fox News goes down here, others will think twice in the future.
 

dank69

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Agree. The way I see it, in order to profer a conspiracy theory that an election was stolen, you've got to accuse some person(s) or company(s) by name as they did here with Dominion and Smartmatic. Which then opens you up to defamation suits from the named persons or companies. If Fox News goes down here, others will think twice in the future.
Making money is secondary to the financial backers of these outlets. Fox News was never supposed to make money. Their primary mission is to get people to vote Republican at any cost.
 
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SMOGZINN

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Agree. The way I see it, in order to profer a conspiracy theory that an election was stolen, you've got to accuse some person(s) or company(s) by name as they did here with Dominion and Smartmatic. Which then opens you up to defamation suits from the named persons or companies. If Fox News goes down here, others will think twice in the future.
I'm not so sure that they really need to point fingers at someone in specific. The 'Deep State' seems to be enough of a foil for them to use it for any conspiracy theory they want to concoct. Honestly, I don't know if it would even matter to the views of Fox et al if they just made up a fictious company to blame. It does not seem that the claims need to be creditable for the dupes to believe it.

Making money is secondary to the financial backers of these outlets. Fox News was never supposed to make money. Their primary mission is to get people to vote Republican at any cost.
Ah, but their money pit somehow became a cash cow, and these people are motivated by greed above all else.
 

dank69

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I'm not so sure that they really need to point fingers at someone in specific. The 'Deep State' seems to be enough of a foil for them to use it for any conspiracy theory they want to concoct. Honestly, I don't know if it would even matter to the views of Fox et al if they just made up a fictious company to blame. It does not seem that the claims need to be creditable for the dupes to believe it.


Ah, but their money pit somehow became a cash cow, and these people are motivated by greed above all else.
They make way more money through policy that benefits them.
 
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akugami

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Finally beginning to see an impact...

I think it will snowball further in the coming weeks, months as it further sinks in.

The problem is, what percentage of those who say they trust Fox News less would say they now trust a news organization like OAN more?
 
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HomerJS

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Finally beginning to see an impact...

I think it will snowball further in the coming weeks, months as it further sinks in.
Fox always tried to portray themselves as not part of the MSM. They will likely try to claim "they all do it".

That isn't close to true. Every media organization makes mistakes put they don't put out known lies or conspiracy theories with no basis in fact.
 
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Zorba

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While I am fully in support of Fox getting sued into oblivion I hope we all realize that something else will just rise in its place. The problem is that the right wing audience in America DEMANDS to be lied to, not that Fox is somehow tricking them.
It's a feedback loop though. The audience was lead there.

The important thing is it should be impossible to build a successful company on harassment without getting sued into oblivion.
 
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The problem is, what percentage of those who say they trust Fox News less would say they now trust a news organization like OAN more?

That's actually why Fox News did this, they saw their viewers outraged that they weren't going crazy enough to cater to them (while Newsmax and OAN were). They remark about it quite a lot in the texts and other stuff that's been released even.

Basically they don't feel bad about knowingly spreading lies, they feel bad that they let their insane viewers (that they had worked into a frenzy with decades of agitprop) down by even doing lip service to facts instead of just openly tacitly supporting insanity. But they also were very aware that they were peddling lies and so wanted someone (else) to shut up people like Sidney Powell because they weren't willing to do so because their viewers would have turned on them for the insane conspiracy theories they actually are seeking.
 
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