Donald Trump: ‘I Hope’ Russia Hacked Clinton’s Email Servers

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Jhhnn

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Nope, no words. I just know the technology. If the server was not protected, not encrypted, and known to foreign adversaries as a target which the FBI statement DID corroborate, then it doesn't take much to assume it was hacked. To think otherwise is stupid. The FBI stated it was unprotected and unencrypted for periods of time as the server(s) were changed over the years while in use and that several other items that were using that server were hacked and that they were able to obtain information that the server was known to those hackers. That's basically saying it was hacked you moron. That isn't innuendo. People have been put behind bars for far less evidence against them in their case. This isn't some CSI show where everything has to be 100% confidence levels to proclaim something happened.

"several other items that were using that server" is bullshit. They weren't "using" it other than as an address for email.

Of course it doesn't take much for righties to assume anything. They do it all the time.
 

ivwshane

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I didn't say they claimed that. I said what they did say was as good as saying it was like that moron. But way to have terrible reading comprehension again.

No you said its basically like the FBI saying that. Its not.
 

HumblePie

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No. No, no.

YES YES YES

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/u...usions-into-democratic-committees-emails.html

Two years ago, several Clinton aides who had worked at the State Department were notified that their accounts there had been broken into by one of the same Russian intelligence agencies, the Federal Security Service, or F.S.B., suspected of getting into the committee’s system. That hacking, which went largely undetected while Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state in President Obama’s first term, gave the Russian intelligence services what one diplomat termed a road map of Mrs. Clinton’s associates and frequent email partners.

Mrs. Clinton’s private server while she was secretary of state, in Chappaqua, N.Y., would have been another obvious target. But last month the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said there was no “direct evidence” that Russia or any other power had “successfully hacked” into Mrs. Clinton’s server. Still, he said, there was evidence that intruders had tried, and when Mr. Comey said any successful intruders were probably far too skilled to leave evidence of their intrusion behind, law enforcement officials said, he had the Russians in mind.

Two aides had their accounts on their computers hacked and those were confirmed hacked along with all the email servers those computers used which included the server at Clinton's house.
 
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Jhhnn

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YES YES YES

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/u...usions-into-democratic-committees-emails.html



Two aides had their accounts on their computers hacked and those were confirmed hacked along with all the email servers those computers used which included the server at Clinton's house.

Linky-linky. I believe they're talking about the hack of the State dept email system that occurred after Clinton's tenure, not any accounts on Hillary's server.

You make this contention in post # 293 of this thread-

FACT: The FBI stated the server had been hacked at some point, but any further information beyond the fact a hack occurred they weren't able to ascertain.

They never said that & anybody not pushing a load of bullshit knows it.

Now that you posted the link it's obvious that you edited the quote to serve your purposes.

You just outed yourself. Good job.
 
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werepossum

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YES YES YES

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/u...usions-into-democratic-committees-emails.html

Two aides had their accounts on their computers hacked and those were confirmed hacked along with all the email servers those computers used which included the server at Clinton's house.
I think that's part of why Mrs. Clinton had her server wiped. With skilled professional hackers it can be extremely difficult to even know if you've been hacked. Large corporations and government agencies both with well-funded, professional security and real-time monitoring (Mrs. Clinton had a guy working for the State department who could come by after work if called) can have a difficult time determining if they were truly hacked, and if so, what the hackers were able to access. Sometimes it takes weeks or even months to make a determination. By having her servers professionally sanitized, there is no possible way to know short of a document dump with some source of corroboration if her servers were hacked. It seems almost impossible to believe they were not given the almost total lack of security, but who knows? Maybe professional state hackers looked at it and thought this HAS to be a trap, nobody's THAT stupid.
 

Jhhnn

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I think that's part of why Mrs. Clinton had her server wiped. With skilled professional hackers it can be extremely difficult to even know if you've been hacked. Large corporations and government agencies both with well-funded, professional security and real-time monitoring (Mrs. Clinton had a guy working for the State department who could come by after work if called) can have a difficult time determining if they were truly hacked, and if so, what the hackers were able to access. Sometimes it takes weeks or even months to make a determination. By having her servers professionally sanitized, there is no possible way to know short of a document dump with some source of corroboration if her servers were hacked. It seems almost impossible to believe they were not given the almost total lack of security, but who knows? Maybe professional state hackers looked at it and thought this HAS to be a trap, nobody's THAT stupid.

Except it wasn't actually wiped, per Comey. If it had been, the FBI would have found bumpkus about anything.

And motivated reasoning, obviously. There's no evidence that the server was hacked, but it must have been because repubs want it to be true.
 

werepossum

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Except it wasn't actually wiped, per Comey. If it had been, the FBI would have found bumpkus about anything.

And motivated reasoning, obviously. There's no evidence that the server was hacked, but it must have been because repubs want it to be true.
Except it was actually wiped, per Comey. The FBI laboriously recreated as much of her deleted email history as possible by getting copies from recipients.
 

Jhhnn

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Except it was actually wiped, per Comey. The FBI laboriously recreated as much of her deleted email history as possible by getting copies from recipients.

You know that's incorrect-

For example, when one of Secretary Clinton’s original personal servers was decommissioned in 2013, the e-mail software was removed. Doing that didn’t remove the e-mail content, but it was like removing the frame from a huge finished jigsaw puzzle and dumping the pieces on the floor. The effect was that millions of e-mail fragments end up unsorted in the server’s unused—or “slack”—space. We searched through all of it to see what was there, and what parts of the puzzle could be put back together.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ey-full-statement-clinton-email-fbi/86707988/

There are several free downloadable programs available that will actually "wipe" a disk by over writing the whole thing with random 1's & 0's, even doing that more than once. DBAN is one such program.
 

werepossum

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You know that's incorrect-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ey-full-statement-clinton-email-fbi/86707988/

There are several free downloadable programs available that will actually "wipe" a disk by over writing the whole thing with random 1's & 0's, even doing that more than once. DBAN is one such program.
That's true - the 2013 server was wiped by Pagliano, who isn't really all that good, and while there were no files, there were discarded fragments. It's the 2014 server that was professionally wiped. Ain't nothing on that one.
 

ivwshane

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That's true - the 2013 server was wiped by Pagliano, who isn't really all that good, and while there were no files, there were discarded fragments. It's the 2014 server that was professionally wiped. Ain't nothing on that one.

I'll take a citation on that please. I'll I've seen was the server that Clinton says was wiped that the company she had handling it said they didn't wipe it.
 

Jhhnn

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I'll take a citation on that please. I'll I've seen was the server that Clinton says was wiped that the company she had handling it said they didn't wipe it.

We both know he doesn't have it. He's just spreading plausible FUD.
 

werepossum

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I'll take a citation on that please. I'll I've seen was the server that Clinton says was wiped that the company she had handling it said they didn't wipe it.
I suppose it's possible that either Pagliano got better or data fairies got the 2014 server. However, were it not wiped, then the FBI would have had a pretty easy task recovering ALL Clinton's emails, no? And the same had the 2013 server not had its data deleted. Had the data merely been deleted, it would be easily recoverable.

Contrast that with the RNC, who turned over their servers AND their backup tapes so that 22 million emails, the vast majority of which were NOT government business, could be easily recovered and sorted by the National Archives personnel.
 

Jhhnn

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I suppose it's possible that either Pagliano got better or data fairies got the 2014 server. However, were it not wiped, then the FBI would have had a pretty easy task recovering ALL Clinton's emails, no? And the same had the 2013 server not had its data deleted. Had the data merely been deleted, it would be easily recoverable.

Contrast that with the RNC, who turned over their servers AND their backup tapes so that 22 million emails, the vast majority of which were NOT government business, could be easily recovered and sorted by the National Archives personnel.

It's more likely that you're just trying to bullshit your way through this given the lack of links & accuracy of what you've already offered.
 

ivwshane

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I suppose it's possible that either Pagliano got better or data fairies got the 2014 server. However, were it not wiped, then the FBI would have had a pretty easy task recovering ALL Clinton's emails, no? And the same had the 2013 server not had its data deleted. Had the data merely been deleted, it would be easily recoverable.

Contrast that with the RNC, who turned over their servers AND their backup tapes so that 22 million emails, the vast majority of which were NOT government business, could be easily recovered and sorted by the National Archives personnel.

Well there is a technical grey area in between leaving things untouched and wiping a system, she could have just deleted them or just not backed up to a new server.
 
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