Donald Trump: ‘I Hope’ Russia Hacked Clinton’s Email Servers

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Double Trouble

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Thank you. The "I wish I could be a dictator!" is the best part, what his leader cult supporters seem to want as well. History has many examples of such people first being elected as a prequel to actually achieving it.

Translation: I'm ok with my team expanding executive power to achieve our goals, but that other team doing the same is scary!!
 

FerrelGeek

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OK, I've said this a few times on here and I'll say it again - I'm NO Trump fan. He's a complete douchenozzle. That being said, this whole flap about his comment yesterday is just pathetic. Trump's shtick is saying outlandish things to get a reaction and draw attention. He was poking the Ds and Hillary. Anyone with a brain could hear the Irony in his voice. The Ds have been in full duhflect mode making more out of the alleged source of the leak to distract from the blatant fact that they're every bit as politically sleazy as the stupid party; maybe even more so.

Another day, another case of faux outrage. I need to go shower to get the stench of both sides off of me.
 

Subyman

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This is some weird stuff. A candidate extending an invitation to a foreign super power and inviting them to influence the presidential election and then saying they will be rewarded is pretty serious. I didn't see it as a joke at all, Trump would be all smiles if Russia got involved, that is not joking.

People may hate Hillary but we've got a man reaching out to Russia to exert influence over our political process. That should be troubling regardless of what Hillary has done.

If trump will go that far publically, what would he do behind closed doors to maintain his influence and power?
 
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Asking that a foreign power intervene to hack any email, even exclusively personal email, of the leadership or potential leadership of the United States is an incredibly obvious national security issue.
Stupidly establishing an essentially non-secure personal email server to conduct the affairs of State is an order of magnitude worse threat to national security than Trump's less than politically-correct off-handed remark. Assuming one is legitimately concerned about good judgement related to national security issues, they would objectively weigh the facts in context and vote accordingly without self-deception and ideologically motivated rationalization. But for the record, your double standard and highly selective outrage are duly noted.
 
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This is some weird stuff. A candidate extending an invitation to a foreign super power and inviting them to influence the presidential election and then saying they will be rewarded is pretty serious. I didn't see it as a joke at all, Trump would be all smiles if Russia got involved, that is not joking.

People may hate Hillary but we've got a man reaching out to Russia to exert influence over our political process. That should be troubling regardless of what Hillary has done.

If trump will go that far publically, what would he do behind closed doors to maintain his influence and power?
I'm curious, how can emails regarding yoga and weddings influence this election? Do you think Hillary might have lied about the nature of the deleted emails?
 

Genx87

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This is some weird stuff. A candidate extending an invitation to a foreign super power and inviting them to influence the presidential election and then saying they will be rewarded is pretty serious. I didn't see it as a joke at all, Trump would be all smiles if Russia got involved, that is not joking.

People may hate Hillary but we've got a man reaching out to Russia to exert influence over our political process. That should be troubling regardless of what Hillary has done.

If trump will go that far publically, what would he do behind closed doors to maintain his influence and power?

I'm laughing that people really believe he is extending an invitation to Russia to hack more emails. It was a clear jab at Clinton and her missing emails. If Trump gets elected you guys are going to all die of heart attacks at the shit he says.

This whole flap also points out American exceptionalism at its core. The mere suggestion of a foreign power exerting influence over our election gets us riled up. Meanwhile both major candidates have vowed to exert influence over other nations political processes. And the people up in arms will be voting for either candidate the majority of the time. Cant imagine why the world is growing sick of us.
 

Double Trouble

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This is some weird stuff. A candidate extending an invitation to a foreign super power and inviting them to influence the presidential election and then saying they will be rewarded is pretty serious.

He took a jab at the media saying the media would reward them. Big whoop. Do you not understand sarcasm when you see it?

People may hate Hillary but we've got a man reaching out to Russia to exert influence over our political process. That should be troubling regardless of what Hillary has done.

If trump will go that far publically, what would he do behind closed doors to maintain his influence and power?

That's some seriously contorted logic. Hillary exposes sensitive information to getting hacked and Trump invites the Russians to share that information if they already have it. And you think the big problem is him saying that instead of her exposing the information?

Where I have an issue is with him saying he hopes the Russians have the information. I hope our enemies don't have that information. Other than that, it's on Hillary.
 

fskimospy

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Stupidly establishing an essentially non-secure personal email server to conduct the affairs of State is an order of magnitude worse threat to national security than Trump's less than politically-correct off-handed remark. Assuming one is legitimately concerned about good judgement related to national security issues, they would objectively weigh the facts in context and vote accordingly without self-deception and ideologically motivated rationalization.

Nice attempt at deflection. Regardless of your interpretation of Clinton's email server (and of course it is unsurprisingly a highly partisan and self-serving one), that has nothing to do with Trump's statement.

I encourage you to cease the self deception and evaluate this information rationally. You claimed that if the contents of the email were personal it was not a threat to national security. Do you now acknowledge you were wrong? If so, why have you not condemned Trump for encouraging violations of national security?

But for the record, your double standard and highly selective outrage are duly noted.

I have no double standard, you're insisting that I adopt your standard. I have no desire to adopt the constantly shifting rationalizations that you so frequently employ so I decline.

Remember, only one of us got caught the other day blatantly applying different standards to different candidates. That person was you.
 

SP33Demon

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The Russians and China have been hacking the shit out of us for decades, but now they are going to start because Trump told them to get hillary! hahaha. Trump is obviously sarcastically asking for transparency. If it's via hacks, then I'm all for it.
 

fskimospy

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I'm laughing that people really believe he is extending an invitation to Russia to hack more emails. It was a clear jab at Clinton and her missing emails. If Trump gets elected you guys are going to all die of heart attacks at the shit he says.

Even if it was a jab, it's something no elected official should ever say for any reason whatsoever. This is something that any sane or competent candidate for president should know.

This whole flap also points out American exceptionalism at its core. The mere suggestion of a foreign power exerting influence over our election gets us riled up. Meanwhile both major candidates have vowed to exert influence over other nations political processes. And the people up in arms will be voting for either candidate the majority of the time. Cant imagine why the world is growing sick of us.

That's not American exceptionalism, that's literally every country on the planet. We conduct espionage, we don't want espionage conducted on us. This isn't a secret or something new, and it's certainly not unique to the US.
 

fskimospy

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The Russians and China have been hacking the shit out of us for decades, but now they are going to start because Trump told them to get hillary! hahaha. Trump is obviously sarcastically asking for transparency. If it's via hacks, then I'm all for it.

Maybe the Russians should hack Trump's tax returns, lol.
 

Genx87

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Even if it was a jab, it's something no elected official should ever say for any reason whatsoever. This is something that any sane or competent candidate for president should know.

While I agree with you. Trump is no elected official yet. And he is a bomb thrower. So getting our panties in a bunch over an obvious jab is rather silly imo. If this were a real politician that held political power. Then I think there is more to it. Trump is running a reality Presidential campaign.

That's not American exceptionalism, that's literally every country on the planet. We conduct espionage, we don't want espionage conducted on us. This isn't a secret or something new, and it's certainly not unique to the US.

It is still hypocrisy in its finest form.
 

SP33Demon

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I have no double standard, you're insisting that I adopt your standard. I have no desire to adopt the constantly shifting rationalizations that you so frequently employ so I decline.
Pop quiz Mr. Double Standard: What's worse - Trump wanting transparency through hacking via other countries or hillary saying "Remove classified headers and send unsecure"?
 
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The Russians and China have been hacking the shit out of us for decades, but now they are going to start because Trump told them to get hillary! hahaha. Trump is obviously sarcastically asking for transparency. If it's via hacks, then I'm all for it.

Speedy I'll freely admit Hillary's email server was wrong. I can also admit Trump encouraging a foreign country openly to mess with an election is wrong too. Why is this a difficult thing to say, especially here on AT?
Can you say the same?
 

Double Trouble

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Even if it was a jab, it's something no elected official should ever say for any reason whatsoever. This is something that any sane or competent candidate for president should know.

He's not an elected official. I still don't think it was appropriate to say. Much of this outrage is just an attempt to deflect though. Lets remember that the only reason this discussion exists is Hillary's attempt to avoid FOIA requirements.
 

Pens1566

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Pop quiz Mr. Double Standard: What's worse - Trump wanting transparency through hacking via other countries or hillary saying "Remove classified headers and send unsecure"?

Derp, even for you.

That's not what the email said. You're just a moron.

“If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”

Now go google what that really means.
 

rudder

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This is some weird stuff. A candidate extending an invitation to a foreign super power and inviting them to influence the presidential election and then saying they will be rewarded is pretty serious. I didn't see it as a joke at all, Trump would be all smiles if Russia got involved, that is not joking.

People may hate Hillary but we've got a man reaching out to Russia to exert influence over our political process. That should be troubling regardless of what Hillary has done.

If trump will go that far publically, what would he do behind closed doors to maintain his influence and power?

So it is okay for Secretary hillary clinton to have Bill go to Russia and earn $500,000 for a 30 minute speech, followed by a $2.3 million donation to the Clinton Foundation by a Russian company in an effort to get state department approval for allowing the Russian company to purchase 20% of the United States' uranium production capacity? Of course approval was granted.

If Hildabeast did this as secretary of state with her own private email server.... what would she doe behind closed doors as president to maintain this influence and power?
 

Double Trouble

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Speedy I'll freely admit Hillary's email server was wrong. I can also admit Trump encouraging a foreign country openly to mess with an election is wrong too. Why is this a difficult thing to say, especially here on AT?
Can you say the same?

I have no problem saying what Trump said was wrong. He's a douche, this is not news to anyone.
 

SP33Demon

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Derp, even for you.

That's not what the email said. You're just a moron.

“If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”

Now go google what that really means.
"Send nonsecure". What do you think that means? lmao
 

fskimospy

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Pop quiz Mr. Double Standard: What's worse - Trump wanting transparency through hacking via other countries or hillary saying "Remove classified headers and send unsecure"?

lol, you just exposed your own ignorance.

She said "turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure." A nonpaper is a term of art used in the diplomacy community to refer to an informal communication where attribution, sources, classified information, or even attribution have been removed. Nonpaper is explicitly designed to be shared with other countries (as that's the whole point) so classified information is never included by definition. If you're telling someone to turn something into a nonpaper, you're telling them not to send anything classified.

So yeah, Trump wanting hostile foreign governments to hack his domestic political opponents is way worse.
 

SP33Demon

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So it is okay for Secretary hillary clinton to have Bill go to Russia and earn $500,000 for a 30 minute speech, followed by a $2.3 million donation to the Clinton Foundation by a Russian company in an effort to get state department approval for allowing the Russian company to purchase 20% of the United States' uranium production capacity? Of course approval was granted.

If Hildabeast did this as secretary of state with her own private email server.... what would she doe behind closed doors as president to maintain this influence and power?
Exactly. Yet Trump sarcasm is now a security issue. hahahaha. Hillary is a Manchurian candidate. Can't wait for the wikileaks on the Foundation to drop.
 
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