Donald Trump: ‘I Hope’ Russia Hacked Clinton’s Email Servers

[Zstream]

lol Inadvertent self ownage for the win.


lol And you guys have seriously lost your souls.


While I fully agree that she fucked up (albeit intentionally and methodically) and owns this, it's a far, far cry from treason. Stupid, sure. Putting self before country, sure. But the bar for treason is intentionally set very high.

No, what I'm saying is that this stupid Trump crap (treason) is just as stupid as Hilary (treason). You can't have it both ways. I really dislike both candidates but please be a little bit more honest with yourself.

 

[Zaap]

This is going to be a good tool for Trump to use. So, you say there was no classified information on your server. If that's the case, how come the Russians gaining access to that non-classified information is a "national security issue"? Were you lying about classified information being included on that server, or are you lying about it being a national security issue?

You've outlined what's known as 'Burnin' it at both ends.'

 

[Ackmed]

Getting upset at this is pretty silly to me. It's obviously a tongue in cheek joke and jab at Clinton. Because of the "lost" emails, and her email controversy where she lied. Or that these emails were deleted in the first place. I don't have a problem with what he said.

All this shit about Russia alleged involvement and Trump's comments are what democrats are upset about, not that their committee got caught doing very shady stuff, and using racist terms about Mexicans.

It do find it pretty funny and hypocritical that DNC are upset and mad because they think Russia was behind the hack and is trying to manipulate the election. All the while, the DNC actually did manipulate the election. Hypocrisy and irony all in one, pretty hilarious to me.

 

[werepossum]

If they want to lambaste trump for the historical actions of another person and call it treason, then the actual action is the treasonous one. Trump didn't hack the server and it can't be hacked now.

I think both claims are stupid. We throw around accusations of treason far too quickly IMO.

No, what I'm saying is that this stupid Trump crap (treason) is just as stupid as Hilary (treason). You can't have it both ways. I really dislike both candidates but please be a little bit more honest with yourself.

Um, did you inadvertently quote the wrong post? I also really dislike both candidates and think neither came even close to treason. Not even close enough to make relevant an argument as to which came closer.

Getting upset at this is pretty silly to me. It's obviously a tongue in cheek joke and jab at Clinton. Because of the "lost" emails, and her email controversy where she lied. Or that these emails were deleted in the first place. I don't have a problem with what he said.

All this shit about Russia alleged involvement and Trump's comments are what democrats are upset about, not that their committee got caught doing very shady stuff, and using racist terms about Mexicans.

It do find it pretty funny and hypocritical that DNC are upset and mad because they think Russia was behind the hack and is trying to manipulate the election. All the while, the DNC actually did manipulate the election. Hypocrisy and irony all in one, pretty hilarious to me.

Agree totally, and well said. It's funny, and that's about it.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wow I just heard what he said....wow its borderline treason. Seriously when I saw this thread earlier I thought it was the usual BS but he is way over the line on this.

I have real problems with him saying Russia you will be rewarded....you will be rewarded by our news media
..

 

[Vic]

LOL, Trump is trolling the sh!t out of people.

I never thought he'd run, much less get the nomination. But I knew if he did it would be entertaining.

The media attention today should about Bill Clinton's speech last night. LOL, Trump blew it right off the front page.

Fern

He is quite the clown, isn't he? Problem is, only the douchebags who put party before country actually fall for his sideshow act.

 

[Fern]

He is quite the clown, isn't he? Problem is, only the douchebags who put party before country actually fall for his sideshow act.

"Party"?

What party?

IMO the Republicans don't have a candidate and the Democrats don't have a party.

I don't see Trump as a Repub. I don't think he has an ideological molecule in his body. He's like an independent who swooped in and stole the Repub 'banner' so he could easily qualify for elections in all states. Geez, he's been rejected by so many in the Repub party it should be clear he isn't one of them.

The Dems don't have a party, the Clintons do. I think it's pretty clear Billary has been packing the DNC with their acolytes for so long and so thoroughly it's now the Clinton Party, not the Democratic party.

Fern

 

[werepossum]

LOL, Trump is trolling the sh!t out of people.

I never thought he'd run, much less get the nomination. But I knew if he did it would be entertaining.

The media attention today should about Bill Clinton's speech last night. LOL, Trump blew it right off the front page.

Fern

Excellent point. Frankly, I knew Trump was a sharp guy but I never guessed he was this smart. He's running rings around the Clintons, the Democrats, and the media - but I repeat myself.

That's not necessarily a good thing though. Very high intelligence joined with lack of morality and power seldom comes out well. Maybe that should be Hillary's next slogan: "Hillary - she's too dumb to do a lot of damage."

"Party"?

What party?

IMO the Republicans don't have a candidate and the Democrats don't have a party.

I don't see Trump as a Repub. I don't think he has an ideological molecule in his body. He's like an independent who swooped in and stole the Repub 'banner' so he could easily qualify for elections in all states. Geez, he's been rejected by so many in the Repub party it should be clear he isn't one of them.

The Dems don't have a party, the Clintons do. I think it's pretty clear Billary has been packing the DNC with their acolytes for so long and so thoroughly it's now the Clinton Party, not the Democratic party.

Fern

Well said.

 

[rudder]

So, do you think it's a good thing to have a foreign power hacking into one of our political parties? Do you think partisan politics are more important than our national security?

Not what Trump said... but anyway... since Hillary ran an unsecured email server while sending classified information... and who knows what else... I hope there is a backup copy of those 30,000+ emails she purged to avoid prosecution. I would like to know what was in those.

And regarding the DNC hacked emails why are liberals showing no concern over what was revealed in those emails? People call Trump a racist, but I say referring to the latino vote as taco bowl is pretty racist. That is just for starters.

And even if Trump actually invited the Russians to hack (which he didn't)... was it not just a treasonous for the Clintons to take money for the Clinton Foundation in return for getting approval to allow Russia to buy an interest in U.S. uranium deposits? What the fuck bizzaro world do we live in?

 

[Jhhnn]

It's beautiful

Donald Trump Just Got Hillary Clinton To Admit Her E-mails Are A ‘National Security Issue’
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27...it-her-e-mails-are-a-national-security-issue/

I hate to break it to you, but you're incredibly gullible. Hillary said that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue, not the emails.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

Did you read the article? He wants Russia to hack Hilary's Email Server. You know the one you guys are mad at her for having because it contained Top Secrets?

How can they hack a server that's no longer online AND still in FBI custody?

I have no idea where you got that idea of your that Trump wants Russia to hack a server but maybe if you spin it some more we can find a new way to mock you. :awe:

 

[Jhhnn]

The spin on this is quite desperate. Trump says he hopes that the Russians "find" the deleted emails of a former SoS during their time in office. He suggests that Russia reveal them to the public because that SoS is now his political opponent. He insinuates that it might help him win.

"Russian cyber crime again the SoS? I sure hope so if it'll help me win!"

And people are fools enough to want him to be President.

 

[werepossum]

I hate to break it to you, but you're incredibly gullible. Hillary said that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue, not the emails.

Yeah, you might want to think about that. Sorry, feel about that.

We know that Hillary's server had classified information, so if there was any possible way Trump's statement could facilitate accessing that information (it obviously cannot) that would be a legitimate national security issue. Saying that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue is simply monumentally stupid for a woman who floated her nation's classified information out for the taking.

Luckily for Hillary, she can say anything at all and her voters will yap and turn flips for her amusement.

 

[Double Trouble]

Oh boy, this is getting interesting.

Looks like ol' Trump was trolling Hillary and unexpectedly got a big fish on the line. I'm sure there will be all sorts of spin and damage control, but it looks to me like Trump just got Hillary to admit that her emails constitute a national security issue. That derails the possibility of her trying to make the story go away as an overblown GOP made up story.

Trump is an asshat for saying what he said, there is no scenario where the Russians having access to classified information is a good thing. Looks like she took the bait though.

 

[Double Trouble]

Saying that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue is simply monumentally stupid for a woman who floated her nation's classified information out for the taking.

That's a very good point and frankly very surprising for a skilled veteran politician like Hillary to take the bait. By saying his attitude about the Russians getting access to the servers is a national security issue implies that the emails getting compromised is a national security issue. Since she put the information in a place where it was at risk for hacking, what does that say about her regard for national security?

Those of you talking about treason, quit the bullshit, there's no way this even remotely comes close to treason no matter how careless she might have been.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yeah, you might want to think about that. Sorry, feel about that.

We know that Hillary's server had classified information, so if there was any possible way Trump's statement could facilitate accessing that information (it obviously cannot) that would be a legitimate national security issue. Saying that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue is simply monumentally stupid for a woman who floated her nation's classified information out for the taking.

Luckily for Hillary, she can say anything at all and her voters will yap and turn flips for her amusement.

Werepossumn you're a smart guy. Don't you see a risk in a serious Presidential contender asking a foreign government to release secret files they may have on the opposition? This isn't saying Hillary's private server was right.
Honestly would it have been appropriate for John Kerry to say we know this WMDs in Iraq is BS, Russia or China please release what you know about us voters being lied to by Cheney or Bush...you'll be rewarded....rewarded by our media...
Doesn't a statement like that encourage more digging or at bare minimum forge some info?
Do we want Putin deciding whom he'd prefer to have as President?

 

[Vic]

"Party"?

What party?

IMO the Republicans don't have a candidate and the Democrats don't have a party.

I don't see Trump as a Repub. I don't think he has an ideological molecule in his body. He's like an independent who swooped in and stole the Repub 'banner' so he could easily qualify for elections in all states. Geez, he's been rejected by so many in the Repub party it should be clear he isn't one of them.

The Dems don't have a party, the Clintons do. I think it's pretty clear Billary has been packing the DNC with their acolytes for so long and so thoroughly it's now the Clinton Party, not the Democratic party.

Fern

Only one of the 2 candidates is promising to abuse the powers of the Office of the President to attack his political opponents if elected, with his supporters cheering wildly at the prospect. If that seems equivalent to an email server to you, well..

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah, you might want to think about that. Sorry, feel about that.

We know that Hillary's server had classified information, so if there was any possible way Trump's statement could facilitate accessing that information (it obviously cannot) that would be a legitimate national security issue. Saying that Trump & Trump's attitude are a national security issue is simply monumentally stupid for a woman who floated her nation's classified information out for the taking.

Luckily for Hillary, she can say anything at all and her voters will yap and turn flips for her amusement.

This isn't about Hillary. It's about Trump. See #112.

Hoping he had the fruits of nation state cyber crime against the SoS so he could win the election is a whole different kind of national security threat.

 

[Double Trouble]

Only one of the 2 candidates is promising to abuse the powers of the Office of the President to attack his political opponents if elected, with his supporters cheering wildly at the prospect. If that seems equivalent to an email server to you, well..

That's a nice one-sided perspective you have there. The only reason Trump can say what he did about the Russians and the information is that Hillary decided to put the information at risk to avoid FOIA oversight. Just like Trump, she put her own interests over those of the nation.

From where I'm sitting, they are two sides to the same shitty coin. Both vain and out for their own benefit willing to do anything it takes to get what they want.

 

[Double Trouble]

This isn't about Hillary. It's about Trump. See #112.

Hoping he had the fruits of nation state cyber crime against the SoS so he could win the election is a whole different kind of national security threat.

Actually, it's a pretty ugly reflection on both of them. Trump was an asshat for saying what he did, it was highly inappropriate. The reason he was able to take the shot is because Hillary placed her own interest in avoiding FOIA oversight ahead of national security. Two sides, shitty coin.

 

[nyker96]

How many leaders of the world would openly collude with a foreign power and encourage them to meddle with internal politics of his/her country? All this done publicly and intentionally?! I mean should we as people hand over our deepest national secret (including nuclear codes) over to this individual?

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually, it's a pretty ugly reflection on both of them. Trump was an asshat for saying what he did, it was highly inappropriate. The reason he was able to take the shot is because Hillary placed her own interest in avoiding FOIA oversight ahead of national security. Two sides, shitty coin.

Why are you still talking about Hillary other than to excuse Trump?

His words reveal a profound defect of character, a man utterly unfit to serve as President.

 

[Double Trouble]

I mean should we as people hand over our deepest national secret (including nuclear codes) over to this individual?

Instead we should hand the deepest national secret including nuclear codes over to the individual who put her own interest in avoiding FOIA oversight over national security?

 

[Double Trouble]

Why are you still talking about Hillary other than to excuse Trump?

His words reveal a profound defect of character, a man utterly unfit to serve as President.

I'm talking about her because it's directly because of her actions that the information might have been stolen. Yes, his words do reveal that defect of character. Her actions and words have revealed the same thing. That's something you and other Hillary supporters can't seem to grasp.

 

[Jhhnn]

Instead we should hand the deepest national secret including nuclear codes over to the individual who put her own interest in avoiding FOIA oversight over national security?

I'm talking about her because it's directly because of her actions that the information might have been stolen. Yes, his words do reveal that defect of character. Her actions and words have revealed the same thing. That's something you and other Hillary supporters can't seem to grasp.

"Might have been stolen" is bullshit, considering that State Dept email actually was hacked. Had she used those servers, the attackers would likely have her emails.

The FBI found no evidence that her server was hacked. Think of it as a blessing in disguise.