Donald Trump is a reflection of every single American conservative

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SNC

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its a fact. maybe an alt fact. sorry you disagee, fuck your feels doh
Talk about carrying water for your team. I'm not really sure what my feelings have to do with this, I have no hoes (more appropriate than a horse in this case) in this race. Trumps a fucking lying sack of shit, but so is the OP.
 

ch33zw1z

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Talk about carrying water for your team. I'm not really sure what my feelings have to do with this, I have no hoes (more appropriate than a horse in this case) in this race. Trumps a fucking lying sack of shit, but so is the OP.
You obviously feel like he's incorrect. Sad.

Denounce the statement as factually incorrect, or you're a scumbag. Simple.
 

SNC

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You obviously feel like he's incorrect. Sad.

Denounce the statement as factually incorrect, or you're a scumbag. Simple.
A+ for effort! F- for application. Your team should be proud of your efforts.
 

SNC

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I dunno. What is your stance on the OP? Do you agree or disagree?
That there makes it easier to understand your issue, you haven't read the thread but assumed I disagreed with him on the original post, it was what he said after that I found interesting.
But you would know that if you read the tread.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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That there makes it easier to understand your issue, you haven't read the thread but assumed I disagreed with him on the original post, it was what he said after that I found interesting.
But you would know that if you read the tread.
I read much of it. You digressed into calling out the OP for being as bad as Trump. Which, not sure wtf universe that makes sense in.

The choice is simple. Accept the facts, or be a scumbag....
 

SNC

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I read much of it. You digressed into calling out the OP for being as bad as Trump. Which, not sure wtf universe that makes sense in.

The choice is simple. Accept the facts, or be a scumbag....
Perhaps the clue you are looking for is in the parts you didn't read.
 

Starbuck1975

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I read much of it. You digressed into calling out the OP for being as bad as Trump. Which, not sure wtf universe that makes sense in.

The choice is simple. Accept the facts, or be a scumbag....
@SNC answered the question in post #27. He also called out the intellectual dishonesty of the OP in asking the question as posed. For some reason, mirrors are incredibly triggering for some liberals. Sad!

I will answer the question. Trump is a scumbag, for this and every other statement he has made. Full stop.

New sentence.

It is also worth examining the context for why Trump is even able to troll Democrats with this particular statement. It has nothing to do with Obama. It has a lot to do with two very specific Senators, one with an R and one with a D.
 

SNC

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Perhaps you are having a difficult time with the choice, as shown by your replies.
This here kids is THE reason we are where we are today. So blinded by politics that he is willing to keep-on-keepin-on without stopping to check to see if he is even remotely fighting the right fight.
If you need it spoon fed to you with something as simple as this, perhaps you might want to take a closer look at the other "beliefs" you have.
 

ch33zw1z

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@SNC answered the question in post #27. He also called out the intellectual dishonesty of the OP in asking the question as posed. For some reason, mirrors are incredibly triggering for some liberals. Sad!

I will answer the question. Trump is a scumbag, for this and every other statement he has made. Full stop.

New sentence.

It is also worth examining the context for why Trump is even able to troll Democrats with this particular statement. It has nothing to do with Obama. It has a lot to do with two very specific Senators, one with an R and one with a D.

I don't see how he's trolling dem's here. He's basically reflecting the majority of R's that have no clue what's going on. Don't believe me? Turn your TV to any R news outlet.

Thanks
 

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This here kids is THE reason we are where we are today. So blinded by politics that he is willing to keep-on-keepin-on without stopping to check to see if he is even remotely fighting the right fight.
If you need it spoon fed to you with something as simple as this, perhaps you might want to take a closer look at the other "beliefs" you have.

haha, yea....who's been in a coma for 10 years. apparently you.
 

Lanyap

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The OP should make a real effort to stay hydrated. Channeling your inner totalitarian, while it feels invigorating, can lead to dehydration. All those angry tears into the pillow every night don't help either.

I'm not going to comply with the OP's demand. When spring break is over he's just going to have to go back to being the schoolyard bully.

That reminded me of this piece. It's a good read.
My hatred of Donald Trump has been bottomless. Then my car broke down outside the Women’s March in DC.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article197196099.html

My fury has been bottomless. I drink my morning coffee from a cup that says, “I hate to wake up when Donald Trump is President.” My husband and I, while reading the latest Trump news, routinely turn to each other and mutter, “I just hate him so much.” The constancy of my outrage has been exhausting, yet I have not yet found a way to quell it – nearly each day has brought a new reason to stoke the fire. But a day with my daughter, communing with the angry and the aggrieved, seemed a good way to try.

As I drove home, I felt the full extent to which Trump has actually diminished my own desire to be kind. He is keeping me so outraged that I hold ill will toward others on a daily basis. Trump is not just ruining our nation, he is ruining me. By the end of the drive, I felt heartbroken.
 

pcgeek11

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The republicans did obstruct you know the same way that the democrats are now with Trumps nominations. They all do it, it just seems to have gotten worse over the fast three elections.
 

Sunburn74

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The republicans did obstruct you know the same way that the democrats are now with Trumps nominations. They all do it, it just seems to have gotten worse over the fast three elections.
I don't think there is even a bit of moral equivalency here. Reasonable nominations generally pass without much issue today (Matthis, McMasters, Gary Cohn, etc) by the democratic party. The crazy ones the Dems have tried to keep out. Even gorsuch got quite a few democratic votes and wasn't event really in danger of not being confirmed. I think clearly team blue has shown a commitment to the normal order of proceedings in the house and Senate but team red has basically thrown all such things out. Just look at what they tried to do with healthcare and the secretive extemely rapid process they chose to pass their half assed tax overhaul.

No I do not believe there is any evidence of moral equivalency here. It's like those cop shootings where the cop always tries to blame the non professional in the situation for the tragedy.
 

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I don't think there is even a bit of moral equivalency here. Reasonable nominations generally pass without much issue today (Matthis, McMasters, Gary Cohn, etc) by the democratic party. The crazy ones the Dems have tried to keep out. Even gorsuch got quite a few democratic votes and wasn't event really in danger of not being confirmed. I think clearly team blue has shown a commitment to the normal order of proceedings in the house and Senate but team red has basically thrown all such things out. Just look at what they tried to do with healthcare and the secretive extemely rapid process they chose to pass their half assed tax overhaul.

No I do not believe there is any evidence of moral equivalency here. It's like those cop shootings where the cop always tries to blame the non professional in the situation for the tragedy.

No, Of course you don't.

The left is always right when they do it, and the right is always wrong when they do....

LOL
 

Sunburn74

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No, Of course you don't.

The left is always right when they do it, and the right is always wrong when they do....

LOL
I disagree. I showed evidence that the Dems really for the most part have shown a commitment to normal congressional order regardless of who's the president. I can show many examples even just this year. When McCain is saying "hey look we have gone too far with this foolishness" it's a problem. I don't recall any democratic senator having concerns that his party was corrupting thr basic principles of Congress. In the last year youvey had McCain, flake, Graham, corker all speak out about their own parties shenanigans and departure from normal senate order.

I think the proof is in the pudding. When Obama was elected it is very well known that a big dinner between the members of the highest levels of the gop was held the next day and they all committed to lockstep opposition to everything Obama would propose. This is a well known fact. The meetings made official to the party two aims 1) that anything Obama was for the GOP was against and 2)Obama would be a one term president. No such meeting has ever occurred on the democratic side even with Trump at the helm, talk less a reasonable person like Obama. So no there is no moral equivalency. One side has clearly been much much worse than the other. If a husband and wife fight you can't claim moral equivalency when one is using insults and spitballs and the other is using a gun.
 
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ky54

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More fake news. No real conservative would have signed the budget. In the last 30 years.
 
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Going to go back to comment on the thread title. Obviously this is an unfair over-generalization. There are certainly *some* conservatives that are kind, compassionate, tolerant people. OTOH, it is a very sad comment on the state of our country that there is still a significant proportion of the population that is selfish, intolerant, and racist. I dont blame Trump for this, although he is enabling such behavior. It is actually quite the opposite. It is the existence of this portion of the population that allowed Trump to come to power. Well that and an irrational hatred for Hillary.
(No, I dont think Hillary was a great candidate, and she definitely has issues, and is a classic "sleazy politician", but even this flawed choice was far superior to the alternative.)

It is also unfortunate that the democrats seem to have totally lost contact with middle america, and instead push their liberal agenda incessantly (environment, abortion, gay marriage, LGBT equality, immigration, etc) and other such issues. Now before I get attacked, I believe all these issues are valid, and dont categorically oppose any of them. The problem is the dems hammer away at them incessantly until people are sick of listening to them, without really addressing the major concerns of most people, which are the economy, jobs, affordable health care (well they do address this), and being able to afford to send their children to college or at least to know they can find a reasonable job. It simply blows my mind that with all the hatred and chaos emanating from Washington that the democrats have still not come up with a party leader (possible candidate) that could clearly defeat Trump in the next election.
 
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