"Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote."

DrDoug

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The thread title is a quote from The Dallas Morning News, a Texas newspaper that has endorsed every single Republican Presidential candidate since 1968. That tradition has come to an end with the nomination of Donald Trump as the Conservative standard-bearer.

"His open admiration of Russia's Vladimir Putin is alarming."

While The Dallas Morning News might like to think that Trump isn't a Republican, right now he's the favorite of about 80% of the Republican voters out there. If they stopped and thought about it a minute they might realize that this means that 80% of Republican voters are also against their dearly held conservative beliefs. They wouldn't do that because it's easier to blame others for their failures. In this case, it's Trump.

In their world conservatism can't fail, it can only be failed.
 

Painman

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Why yes, every morning I consult the Dallas Morning News so I know what I'm supposed to think.

Because Massholes and Texans have so much in common.
 

DrDoug

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I just heard on ABC (radio station) that The Dallas Morning News hasn't supported a Democrat for President since 1946. They must really dislike Trump...lol!
 

Paratus

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Why yes, every morning I consult the Dallas Morning News so I know what I'm supposed to think.

Because Massholes and Texans have so much in common.
Damn straight!

It's Breitbarts job to tell you what to think.
 
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shady28

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Sigh....

Dallas Morning News was bought by the same company that owns USA Today in 2013.

They've had multiple buyouts of employees and the editor is new.

DMN actually partially defended BLM after the Dallas shooting.

They aren't a conservative newspaper anymore, I would describe them as (at best from my view) moderate. This is not the same newspaper it was 3 years ago.

It would be more accurate to say that this is the "first" election in which the "new" DMN could endorse anyone, and who they endorsed showed their new direction from their new owners.
 

Vic

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Sigh....

Dallas Morning News was bought by the same company that owns USA Today in 2013.

They've had multiple buyouts of employees and the editor is new.

DMN actually partially defended BLM after the Dallas shooting.

They aren't a conservative newspaper anymore, I would describe them as (at best from my view) moderate. This is not the same newspaper it was 3 years ago.

It would be more accurate to say that this is the "first" election in which the "new" DMN could endorse anyone, and who they endorsed showed their new direction from their new owners.

Why not address the newspaper's many arguments against Trump instead of just discounting them because they're no longer on your ideologically-approved list of news sources?
Because just claiming bias is not an actual argument.
 

sportage

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Hello people!
I "was" going to start a brand new thread, but instead I'll jump on here.

Today, I have been hearing a lot from the media AND republicans that "TRUMP CAN BE MANAGED". Meaning, Trump can be made to appear more "normal", more presidential by having his handlers.
Made to appear more down to earth, made to appear less unhinged, made to look more "human".

Then it occurred to me, you can say the very same about any 5 year old child.
Yes....
A 5 year old kid "could" be made to appear president as well only if the child had the correct handlers near by.
So what is this saying?
That Donald Trump, as president, will need to be surrounded by "handlers" 24/7 ?
And, who are these handlers anyway?
A guy in a white coat standing to president Trump's left?
And a guy with a police taser standing to Trump's right?
And a third person with a huge net standing over Trump's head?
Just in case president Trump should become or go off "unhinged"?

Is this were we are at with Trump?
That, "oh.. this guy can be president, he simply needs the handlers standing by in the wings ready to react"?
Have we all gone totally insane?
For the media and republican Trump supporters to think anyone could be president only if they have the handlers to ensure that president did not do anything totally insane?

And if this is considered "normal" for a president, then why not just really elect some 5 year old kid? Or maybe Charles Manson as president?
Hell....
If Charles Manson had the correct "handlers", old Charlie might made a damn good president too?

We have become so dumbed down, so completely crazed by what is considered normal and what is considered not normal, that I actually believe solely because of Donald Trump that we can no longer tell the difference between insane and normal.
So go ahead.
Elect the lunatic as president, but just make damn sure there are plenty of "handlers" on hand to make the lunatic appear as "presidential".
Amazing.... Simply F-ing amazing....
 

ivwshane

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Why not address the newspaper's many arguments against Trump instead of just discounting them because they're no longer on your ideologically-approved list of news sources?
Because just claiming bias is not an actual argument.

I think the relevance of this endorsement was that it was a long time conservative paper who had consistently endorsed Republicans and now they have broken that tend.

They may have good points as to why they aren't supporting trump but it wasn't the points that they raised that was of importance.

I think shady brought something very relevant to this particular thread.
 

Vic

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I think the relevance of this endorsement was that it was a long time conservative paper who had consistently endorsed Republicans and now they have broken that tend.

They may have good points as to why they aren't supporting trump but it wasn't the points that they raised that was of importance.

I think shady brought something very relevant to this particular thread.
Unfortunately, he's not correct about the Dallas Morning News' ownership, which is still owned by A H Belo Corp. The company split off its broadcasting division some years ago, and that is what Gannett eventually bought, while A H Belo Corp retained the newspaper business.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AHC/key-statistics?p=AHC

"A.H. Belo Corporation, together with its subsidiaries, operates as a local news and information publishing company primarily in the United States. It publishes The Dallas Morning News and The Denton Record-Chronicle newspapers, as well as operates related Web sites. The company also involved in publishing Briefing newspaper; and Al Dia, a Spanish-language newspaper. In addition, it provides commercial printing, distribution, and direct mail services; event promotion and marketing services; and digital marketing solutions, as well as sells online automotive classifieds on the cars.com platform. A.H. Belo Corporation was founded in 1842 and is headquartered in Dallas, Texas."
 
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Jhhnn

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DMN actually partially defended BLM after the Dallas shooting.

As well they should have, considering the nature of the incident. BLM has the right to march & were not in conflict with the police at all. They joined everybody else in condemning the shooter.
 

ivwshane

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Unfortunately, he's not correct about the Dallas Morning News' ownership, which is still owned by A H Belo Corp. The company split off its broadcasting division some years ago, and that is what Gannett eventually bought, while A H Belo Corp retained the newspaper business.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AHC/key-statistics?p=AHC

"A.H. Belo Corporation, together with its subsidiaries, operates as a local news and information publishing company primarily in the United States. It publishes The Dallas Morning News and The Denton Record-Chronicle newspapers, as well as operates related Web sites. The company also involved in publishing Briefing newspaper; and Al Dia, a Spanish-language newspaper. In addition, it provides commercial printing, distribution, and direct mail services; event promotion and marketing services; and digital marketing solutions, as well as sells online automotive classifieds on the cars.com platform. A.H. Belo Corporation was founded in 1842 and is headquartered in Dallas, Texas."

Well damn! And here I thought I was giving someone some kudos for doing some actual fact checking.
 

zinfamous

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Why not address the newspaper's many arguments against Trump instead of just discounting them because they're no longer on your ideologically-approved list of news sources?
Because just claiming bias is not an actual argument.

agreed, but shady makes a good point. The issue he brings up torpedoes the assertion in the OP that this is a traditional conservative rag switching away from Trump because they are somehow noble conservatives that actually dislike Trump.
 

zinfamous

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Unfortunately, he's not correct about the Dallas Morning News' ownership, which is still owned by A H Belo Corp. The company split off its broadcasting division some years ago, and that is what Gannett eventually bought, while A H Belo Corp retained the newspaper business.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AHC/key-statistics?p=AHC

"A.H. Belo Corporation, together with its subsidiaries, operates as a local news and information publishing company primarily in the United States. It publishes The Dallas Morning News and The Denton Record-Chronicle newspapers, as well as operates related Web sites. The company also involved in publishing Briefing newspaper; and Al Dia, a Spanish-language newspaper. In addition, it provides commercial printing, distribution, and direct mail services; event promotion and marketing services; and digital marketing solutions, as well as sells online automotive classifieds on the cars.com platform. A.H. Belo Corporation was founded in 1842 and is headquartered in Dallas, Texas."

Interesting...so who retains editorial power over DMN--AH Belo or Gannett?
 

Vic

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Sigh....

Dallas Morning News was bought by the same company that owns USA Today in 2013.

They've had multiple buyouts of employees and the editor is new.

DMN actually partially defended BLM after the Dallas shooting.

They aren't a conservative newspaper anymore, I would describe them as (at best from my view) moderate. This is not the same newspaper it was 3 years ago.

It would be more accurate to say that this is the "first" election in which the "new" DMN could endorse anyone, and who they endorsed showed their new direction from their new owners.

The 5th paragraph from the 1st link:

"The deal does not affect A.H. Belo Corporation, which owns The Dallas Morning News and other newspapers and was spun off as a separate company in 2008."
 

jman19

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The 5th paragraph from the 1st link:

"The deal does not affect A.H. Belo Corporation, which owns The Dallas Morning News and other newspapers and was spun off as a separate company in 2008."

Oops.
 

DrDoug

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Interesting...so who retains editorial power over DMN--AH Belo or Gannett?

Judging from what is said, AH Belo spun that part off in 2008 and still owns The DMN, so they have full editorial control. Gannett only bought the broadcasting division (in 2013). So unless someone has something else, it's still a conservative-led paper making a historic change.
 
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