"Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote."

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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Where do you get your facts about trump, Internet, CNN news? You think news is documentary LOL. I would rather Read 13 Hours then listen your false statements about Trump..
Seems you endorse the same foreign policy narrative as Trump:

"I watch all the shows!"
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I prefer to make up my own trump facts.

During one deal, trump made so much money that he could fill a swimming pool with enough gold coins to drown Poseidon.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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I'm not saying that Hillary is perfect by any means, but Trump is the worst POS to ever run for POTUS on a major party ticket, and you know that's true. When he isn't telling crazy lies and rambling authoritarian Palpatinisms, he's insulting our political traditions and mocking our laws. He's a failed businessman with zero political experience, a celebrity whose only claim to fame is that he's famous for being a douchebag, who is presently under indictment for fraud and racketeering with a trial date next February, and you really believe they're the same?
My position is not that they are the same, but that they are both such horrible people that arguing over which is worse is pointless. And lol at calling Trump a failed businessman.

lol I stand corrected. Apparently she merely proceeded as though she had signed the waiver.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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Trump is an unindicted felon too.
Even setting aside the Democrat-controlled Department of Justice, if I had to guess as which is more likely to be indicted (outside of politically driven sham indictments) I would guess Trump. Unlike Hillary I don't know any specific felonies, but Trump has so many far-flung business interests and is such a shady character that I cannot imagine he has not broken some serious laws. However, just as Hillary's Republican opposition shields her, Trump's wealth shields him. Businessmen at his level get fined, not prosecuted.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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My position is not that they are the same, but that they are both such horrible people that arguing over which is worse is pointless. And lol at calling Trump a failed businessman.

On the face of it, it's a tough argument to make. But I wonder if you took 10 dudes with the same years of education and apprenticeship into their late twenties, handed them about $10-20 million each, (so, let's start out how Trump started out) how many of them would actually outperform the S&P over 40 years while actually "working," unlike Trump?

Plenty of actual businessmen were actually successful, and started with nothing. This is a guy who's business acumen wouldn't be a sufficient investment for even the most corrupt and poorly-managed of pension funds.
 
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werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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On the face of it, it's a tough argument to make. But I wonder if you took 10 dudes with the same years of education and apprenticeship into their late twenties, handed them about $10-20 million each, (so, let's start out how Trump started out) how many of them would actually outperform the S&P over 40 years while actually "working," unlike Trump?

Plenty of actual businessmen were actually successful, and started with nothing. This is a guy who's business acumen wouldn't be a sufficient investment for even the most corrupt and poorly-managed of pension funds.
That starts with a flawed assumption - that Trump did not outperform the S&P. He far out-performed the market, because such calculations ignore the huge amounts he spends every year.

There are a fair number of millionaires who inherited equal amounts, but probably not that many who inherited it that far back. Most billionaires IIRC are self-made, so probably very few succeed to Trump's level. At any rate, arguing that a billionaire is a failure because he isn't even richer is a fool's proposition.
 

wingman04

Senior member
May 12, 2016
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sm625

Diamond Member
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Openly admiring Putin is unacceptable! However, selling him Uranium rights... erm how much will I be getting from that? Ok, we might be able to accommodate you.

My god sheeple are so stupid.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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My position is not that they are the same, but that they are both such horrible people that arguing over which is worse is pointless. And lol at calling Trump a failed businessman.


lol I stand corrected. Apparently she merely proceeded as though she had signed the waiver.

She proceeded as I'm sure has been done many times wrt temporary missions in many parts of the world. As even Breitbart points out, not even hostile Repubs questioned her right to do that.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Trump is not qualified for president, in eyes of newspaper that endorsed every Republican, including W, even after he dropped the ball on 9/11 and started a war on a lie, getting thousands of Americans killed.
That's a pretty stunning assessment.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Openly admiring Putin is unacceptable! However, selling him Uranium rights... erm how much will I be getting from that? Ok, we might be able to accommodate you.

My god sheeple are so stupid.

Heh. Bill Clinton set up a meeting between a Canadian billionaire & the Prez of Kazakhstan in which the Canadian bought into uranium mining interest in Kazakhstan. He already had US uranium interests.There was a huge stink in Kazakhstan & Russia over the deal but it proved to be legal & binding. Corporate restructuring put both sets of assets into one organization. Russia wanted the Kazakh interest back rather badly & ended up paying the Canadian billionaire a handsome profit to get it but they had to take the American interests as part of the deal. Our own govt, not just the State Dept, approved the deal because the Russians can't do anything with American uranium that we don't let them do.

The Canadian businessman also contributed heavily to the Clinton foundation to help in humanitarian efforts all over the world. Call it backscratching if you want but Clinton gained nothing personally out of it.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Openly admiring Putin is unacceptable! However, selling him Uranium rights... erm how much will I be getting from that? Ok, we might be able to accommodate you.

My god sheeple are so stupid.

Lol! Did you seriously just say sheeple are so stupid while repeating a debunked talking point?

I agree, sheeple are so stupid and you are one of them.
 
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BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Random Donald Trump Fact: Donald trump is so full of himself, that he can clone himself by farting.
 

DrDoug

Diamond Member
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Random Donald Trump Fact: Donald trump is so full of himself, that he can clone himself by farting.

That's BS... he clones himself every time he takes a dump. The problem is that the clones fingers look too small to him so he flushes them.
 
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Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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My position is not that they are the same, but that they are both such horrible people that arguing over which is worse is pointless. And lol at calling Trump a failed businessman.
You should look closer at the Trump U findings and the Taj Mahal bankruptcy. The Clown is nothing but a swindler and a con artist. He's not a successful businessman, he's just Carl Icahn's stooge, all the way back to 80s. Trump is just a brand, a frontman. His casinos, golf courses, and other ventures are actually owned by Icahn.
And why is Trump running for POTUS? Because Icahn bet the wrong way on energy a couple years ago. A vote for Trump is actually a vote for higher gas and oil prices. Why else do you think Putin loves him? Low oil prices have almost bankrupted the Russian economy.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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No I don't have a huge Boeing 757 jet to fly all over the USA and to Mexico and all other county's to actually talk to the People.

Let me tell you Trump is not running for President because of fame and fortune, Clinton's need money all they have is politics.

Cool story, Trump has a plane with his name on it. You do realize most people who have planes actually keep them low profile?

As for your the rest of your post you appear to be Trump's most desirable demographic: the uneducated. You have only the best words like he does.
 
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HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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You should look closer at the Trump U findings and the Taj Mahal bankruptcy. The Clown is nothing but a swindler and a con artist. He's not a successful businessman, he's just Carl Icahn's stooge, all the way back to 80s. Trump is just a brand, a frontman. His casinos, golf courses, and other ventures are actually owned by Icahn.
And why is Trump running for POTUS? Because Icahn bet the wrong way on energy a couple years ago. A vote for Trump is actually a vote for higher gas and oil prices. Why else do you think Putin loves him? Low oil prices have almost bankrupted the Russian economy.

lol, it's all so obvious. Trump is running for president so he can collude with Putin to raise oil prices in order to bail out a friend. I am now woke.
 

wingman04

Senior member
May 12, 2016
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Cool story, Trump has a plane with his name on it. You do realize most people who have planes actually keep them low profile?

As for your the rest of your post you appear to be Trump's most desirable demographic: the uneducated. You have only the best words like he does.
Most people don't actually own there small jets they lease or rent them, they are unable to paint them like trump does. A lot of celebrities go broke leasing Gulfstream and Learjet 60 jets

Let me educate you. To lease or rent a small jet you have to be a millionaire. To own + fuel + maintenance + crew on new Boeing 757 you have to be a multi-billionaire.
What private citizen owns a Boeing 757 besides trump also have you ever seen a paint color scheme like this on a private jet?

https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/top-10-facts-about-donald-trumps-boeing
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Most people don't actually own there small jets they lease or rent them, they are unable to paint them like trump does. A lot of celebrities go broke leasing Gulfstream and Learjet 60 jets

Let me educate you. To lease or rent a small jet you have to be a millionaire. To own + fuel + maintenance + crew on new Boeing 757 you have to be a multi-billionaire.
What private citizen owns a Boeing 757 besides trump also have you ever seen a paint color scheme like this on a private jet?

https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/top-10-facts-about-donald-trumps-boeing

So the wild color scheme of trumps plane is what sold you on trump being president?

Lol! Just when you think trump supporters can't get any dumber, they come out and surprise you!
 

DrDoug

Diamond Member
Jan 16, 2014
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Most people don't actually own there small jets they lease or rent them, they are unable to paint them like trump does. A lot of celebrities go broke leasing Gulfstream and Learjet 60 jets

Let me educate you. To lease or rent a small jet you have to be a millionaire. To own + fuel + maintenance + crew on new Boeing 757 you have to be a multi-billionaire.
What private citizen owns a Boeing 757 besides trump also have you ever seen a paint color scheme like this on a private jet?

https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/top-10-facts-about-donald-trumps-boeing

You're impressed by the fact that he owns a plane that has been out of production since 2004? For a rich guy who has the best of everything like Trump, that sure seems like an old plane. Granted, it has a shiny paint job so maybe that's what impresses you? A lot of wealthy people lease their jets rather than saddling themselves with ownership.

But then again Trump isn't known for his great choices in life.
 
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