So how we do that if Fred knows the details of a bombing that will kill ours but smores aren't convincing him to give it up?
No, I don't have the answer but I do know pacifism will not work.
IIRC, which is doubtful, we used a lot of their "studies" on how to treat burn/wound/hypothermia/etc victims. I don't agree with the method but if we can save people with the data....The Nazis had accumulated a great deal of data on human psychology and physiology gathered from death camps and human experimentation. We decided to destroy the records instead of using the information to better healthcare and increase our knowledge because of how it was gathered. That was the right decision. Sometimes honor and the principles we follow are more important than surviving the moment.
IIRC, which is doubtful, we used a lot of their "studies" on how to treat burn/wound/hypothermia/etc victims. I don't agree with the method but if we can save people with the data....
IIRC, which is doubtful, we used a lot of their "studies" on how to treat burn/wound/hypothermia/etc victims. I don't agree with the method but if we can save people with the data....
Look up unit 731 and tell me you still feel that way.
Here I will give you some text but there are photos. Lots and lots of photos of all kinds of "experiments"
Prisoners, including one known POW,[18] were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia.[19] Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Researchers performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results.[20] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants, including pregnant women and their infants impregnated by Japanese surgeons.[21]
Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen, then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[19]
Japanese army surgeon Ken Yuasa suggests that the practice of vivisection on human subjects (mostly Chinese Communists) was widespread even outside Unit 731,[6] estimating that at least 1,000 people were involved in the practice in mainland China.[22]
So ignore/throw away the data that could/will/has save others?I don't agree with the method
So ignore/throw away the data that could/will/has save others?
I cringe if I might run over a tree rat. I surely couldn't have a part in those "studies.."
The question for me is what will the enemy do to kill mine?For me, it comes down to trust. How can we trust the people we fight along side if there are no limits to what we will do just to survive?
So ignore/throw away the data that could/will/has save others?
I would have to spend some time looking for it but the burn victim data, while not worth it, has been very helpful. Why throw that away? This is not incentivizing Nazi genocide.Yes. You throw away the data. You dont want to incentivize such activities by keeping the data.
Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions. Flame throwers were tested on humans. Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.[30][31]
Yes. You throw away the data. You dont want to incentivize such activities by keeping the data.
Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions. Flame throwers were tested on humans. Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.[30][31]
This is a matter of data acquired by horrendous means. How else could it be gathered today?Short answer: yes. The knowledge isn't lost forever. Knowing something is possible greatly increases the odds of arriving at similar results by different methods.
The question for me is what will the enemy do to kill mine?
Ex. Mag, I know a guy that is going to break into your house, rape your wife, kill your kids and steal your plasma tv but I won't tell you who. This is a fact unless you make me tell. What will you do?
Argue however you like but I will do whatever is necessary to protect mine even if that means you lose yours. I'll hang my head in shame but I'll also hug my wife and child.
Nope. I'm giving you the ability to choose.Bad example, you are assuming a fait accompli. I and/or my wife can defend ourselves. In a larger perspective, the reason we have a code of conduct is to take some of the pressure off of individual decisions. There are no decisions that are right in every situation and circumstance. However, there is a huge difference between making a choice as a member of the military or government and as a private citizen. Trump apparently doesn't see any difference and seems to announce his unsuitability for the office every time he opens his mouth.
By fait accompli I meant, if I choose not to force you to reveal information by illegal means, then the death and destruction will automatically follow. This is not true.Nope. I'm giving you the ability to choose.
I'll get to the rest of your post soon.
So where's the line to save us and ours?By fait accompli I meant, if I choose not to force you to reveal information by illegal means, then the death and destruction will automatically follow. This is not true.
Who is covered by the constitution?I'm not surprised either because Trump is just another kind of subhuman filth.
Constitution? Who cares? Cuz... Terrarists!
And hillary lies her ass off and the left sucks it up....damn, you're stupid.LOL honestly Trump is fucking hilarious. The guy plays to his crowd of brain dead Republicans with cunning genius; no wonder he is a billionaire.
Has every Trumpette forgotten that the world still has nukes? Or do you plan on using them?Foreign soil?
Total war is the only war. You have to absolutely demolish morale and the desire to fight in order to win. If you aren't willing to go that far, then don't make war and let shit get taken from you. Others don't play by this silly one-sided morality we hinder ourselves with.
So where's the line to save us and ours?
Who is covered by the constitution?
Filártiga v. Peña-Irala, 630 F.2d 876 (2d Cir. 1980), was a landmark case in United States and international law. It set the precedent for United States federal courts to punish non-American citizens for tortious acts committed outside the United States that were in violation of public international law (the law of nations) or any treaties to which the United States is a party. It thus extends the jurisdiction of United States courts to tortious acts committed around the world. The case was decided by a panel of judges from the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit consisting of Judges Feinberg, Kaufman, and Kearse.
Who is covered by the constitution?
There's a subtle difference in their lies. Hillary tells the lies that otherwise logical, intelligent, and educated people want to hear. Trump tells the lies that the angry mob desperately wants to hear.And hillary lies her ass off and the left sucks it up....damn, you're stupid.
We, the general public, are screwed.