I mean who has constitutional rights? This isn't a gotcha question, I'm just not sure.
I mean who has constitutional rights? This isn't a gotcha question, I'm just not sure.Ummm... The government, of course. The Constitution & the law limit its actions.
Who is covered by the constitution?
When arrested do we need to read them their rights?there's this international law see.
To an extent, everyone. The Constitution doesn't grant rights, it secures them.I mean who has constitutional rights? This isn't a gotcha question, I'm just not sure.
When arrested do we need to read them their rights?
Some of the world has nukes and most know that we don't fuck around. Well, at least we didn't.Has every Trumpette forgotten that the world still has nukes? Or do you plan on using them?
Look up unit 731 and tell me you still feel that way.
Here I will give you some text but there are photos. Lots and lots of photos of all kinds of "experiments"
Prisoners, including one known POW,[18] were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia.[19] Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Researchers performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results.[20] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants, including pregnant women and their infants impregnated by Japanese surgeons.[21]
Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen, then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[19]
Japanese army surgeon Ken Yuasa suggests that the practice of vivisection on human subjects (mostly Chinese Communists) was widespread even outside Unit 731,[6] estimating that at least 1,000 people were involved in the practice in mainland China.[22]
And hillary lies her ass off and the left sucks it up....damn, you're stupid.
We, the general public, are screwed.
Foreign soil?
Total war is the only war. You have to absolutely demolish morale and the desire to fight in order to win. If you aren't willing to go that far, then don't make war and let shit get taken from you. Others don't play by this silly one-sided morality we hinder ourselves with.
So you want to use them then?Some of the world has nukes and most know that we don't fuck around. Well, at least we didn't.
The question for me is what will the enemy do to kill mine?
Ex. Mag, I know a guy that is going to break into your house, rape your wife, kill your kids and steal your plasma tv but I won't tell you who. This is a fact unless you make me tell. What will you do?
Argue however you like but I will do whatever is necessary to protect mine even if that means you lose yours. I'll hang my head in shame but I'll also hug my wife and child.
Thank you for that helpful post.you don't even do that to domestic criminals.
what are you on about?
IIRC, which is doubtful, we used a lot of their "studies" on how to treat burn/wound/hypothermia/etc victims. I don't agree with the method but if we can save people with the data....
And what happens when you, under the severe distress of torture just wanting it to stop, gives him false information that he acts upon. While he is acting on it the real bad guy does all of what you said above.
How do you discern against truthful information and information given just to make it stop during torture? "The last thing you want to be when the torturer comes is innocent." You torture anyone bad enough and they will tell you the story that you want to hear, it's basic human nature to want the pain the stop and at some point they will tell you something regardless if true or not. I guarantee, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I (or some professional torturer actually) could get you to admit that you were in on the 9/11 attacks. Would that make it good and actionable intelligence?
We already have a lot of people who are ok with terrible treatment of people because they feel it is justified. A lot of horrendous things have been done in recent history because it was "justified." It doesn't take much for our species to revert to our exceedingly violent, primitive instincts. We're a species that has to have laws as reminders not to do things like murder or torture people.Yeah because we all became nazis...
I still don't think that justifies it.Agree but if you're blowing up peeps in America....tough shit.
I would much rather not having any conflict but some groups demand it. That includes the fanatic religious right. Eat dirt.
And I agree that pacifism will not work. Not for humanity. Not until we find a way to grow past ancient instincts that compel us to be tribal, paranoid, and extremely selfish to the point of harming others. It's an old survival tactic, that's all. The group benefits at the expense of individuals.So how we do that if Fred knows the details of a bombing that will kill ours but smores aren't convincing him to give it up?
No, I don't have the answer but I do know pacifism will not work.
Yes, the Germans would have rolled over if we had maintained some idiotic moral high ground. Last I checked dresden was nor s moral high ground. It was complete defeat.Your "one sided morality" isn't a weakness, it's our strength.
Um, yeah. I don't think people get waterboarded for the hell of it, just to see if they can find out anything. It would have to be information that you know they know, and you need to know.
Yeah because we all became nazis...
Some of the world has nukes and most know that we don't fuck around. Well, at least we didn't.
So *making a weighing motion with hands* what is worse? Some freaking H2O or having your damn head cut off if you're lucky? If not burned alive.
Neither?
If I get arrested in America I don't expect any of the above to happen to me because America isn't a shithole, if I get captured by ISIS I expect any/all of the above to happen because they are a bunch of animals that live in a shithole.
I was signed up for nrotc for a full scholarship. Then my knee decided to fold in half, sideways, one morning. Ripped out a quarter of my cartilage in the initial event.You talk a lot of shit but nobody sees you back it up.
What's the holdup, tough guy? Have you been to a war?