Donald Trump releases his birth certificate, demands Obama does the same

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Darwin333

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What is a chromatic artifiact?

Look at the AP scan of the image and blow up one of the letters extremely large and look at the edges of them (where the letters end and the background begins) and you will see blue and redish haze around the entire letter or area that goes from black to white. From what I understand of the subject this is due to the way light passes through a lens of a scanner and present in EVERY color scan. It is present in the AP version because they actually scanned the document with a color scanner.

Look at the pdf released by the WH and do the same thing, there are no chromatic artifacts present at all.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Look at the AP scan of the image and blow up one of the letters extremely large and look at the edges of them (where the letters end and the background begins) and you will see blue and redish haze around the entire letter or area that goes from black to white. From what I understand of the subject this is due to the way light passes through a lens of a scanner and present in EVERY color scan. It is present in the AP version because they actually scanned the document with a color scanner.

Look at the pdf released by the WH and do the same thing, there are no chromatic artifacts present at all.

I dont know enough about scanners and OCR and all that to really say but I don't think this changes anything anyways.
 

CLite

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Look at the AP scan of the image and blow up one of the letters extremely large and look at the edges of them (where the letters end and the background begins) and you will see blue and redish haze around the entire letter or area that goes from black to white. From what I understand of the subject this is due to the way light passes through a lens of a scanner and present in EVERY color scan. It is present in the AP version because they actually scanned the document with a color scanner.

Look at the pdf released by the WH and do the same thing, there are no chromatic artifacts present at all.

Dammit! You figured out the Manchurian candidate's ultimate secret. Brb, I have to call Obama and let him know that Darwin333 discovered his dark secret.
 

ShawnD1

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Look at the AP scan of the image and blow up one of the letters extremely large and look at the edges of them (where the letters end and the background begins) and you will see blue and redish haze around the entire letter or area that goes from black to white. From what I understand of the subject this is due to the way light passes through a lens of a scanner and present in EVERY color scan. It is present in the AP version because they actually scanned the document with a color scanner.

Look at the pdf released by the WH and do the same thing, there are no chromatic artifacts present at all.
Depending on how the scanner handles OCR, it will replace the raster image with text.

It's hard to explain it and I can't give an example because I'm at work and I don't have Acrobat at home. If you found some way to get Acrobat on your computer, you could toy with the OCR and see how it does things. It's a really great program. I totally understand why Adobe charges so god damn much for it
 

Darwin333

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I dont know enough about scanners and OCR and all that to really say but I don't think this changes anything anyways.

I don't think any sort of proof, for either side, will change anything. That is why I have continuously stated that this argument is moot and mostly a distraction. I simply posted something that I thought was interesting in an attempt to learn more about the subject and get different opinions on it.
 

Darwin333

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Depending on how the scanner handles OCR, it will replace the raster image with text.

It's hard to explain it and I can't give an example because I'm at work and I don't have Acrobat at home. If you found some way to get Acrobat on your computer, you could toy with the OCR and see how it does things. It's a really great program. I totally understand why Adobe charges so god damn much for it

Its not just the letters and numbers though, it is everything on the document including the lines and the green stripes on the safety paper background. Would Adobes OCR fix that as well and why does it show up as it should on the APs scan?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Hate all you want, but conservative voters are responding to Mr. Trump's willingness to speak the truth about Obummer. As you can see from the chart Mr. Trump is currently tied for 2nd in popularity.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...47100322182190.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

What you have posted is applicable those who wouldn't vote for Obama to begin with. What we haven't seen but may safely assume is that those who would vote for Obama on the Left would never select Trump.

Therefore what you post is irrelevant to the 2011 election as nothing of significance changes. What does matter are those who aren't partisan by nature (swing voters if you will) think of Trump since they will decide the election.

What statistics exist of their opinion of Trump?
 

Matt1970

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The artifacts in the picture are because it is a JPG image. Most times it is unavoidable.

Quit looking at the document trying to find flaws. It's legit.
 

jonks

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I don't think any sort of proof, for either side, will change anything.

either side? you mean those that live in reality and those that experience life as a continual delusion? I agree, you won't be able to convince me I'm actually a robot programmed to believe I'm human any more than you could convince a mentally unstable patient who thinks he's Batman that he actually isn't. Both sides are stubborn that way.


 

jonks

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I'm sure he can come up with another good reason to wait to release pictures of Osama too.

That's easy, even I can. Allow an entire movement to develop around the idea that Obama faked bin laden's capture/killing to establish street cred, allow the GOP to coopt/adopt the movement, allow all the crazies to come out of the woodwork, allow mainstream GOPers to come out and echo the conspiracy theories, and then expose them for the fucking idiots they all are.

Where are the pictures? is the new Where's the birth certificate?

Worked out real well for you fellas last time. Hop back on that horse for another go round.
 

Matt1970

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That's easy, even I can. Allow an entire movement to develop around the idea that Obama faked bin laden's capture/killing to establish street cred, allow the GOP to coopt/adopt the movement, allow all the crazies to come out of the woodwork, allow mainstream GOPers to come out and echo the conspiracy theories, and then expose them for the fucking idiots they all are.

Where are the pictures? is the new Where's the birth certificate?

Worked out real well for you fellas last time. Hop back on that horse for another go round.

Jonks, even you claimed it was quite odd that Obama hadn't released the certificate.

I would love to see the pics of OBL but I am not going to think it is a hoax because I haven't seen them.
 
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