Donald Trump releases his birth certificate, demands Obama does the same

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trenchfoot

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I'm gon'na wonder out loud here that if Obama, who is half white half black, pulled a lot stronger to his mother's (white) side appearance-wise, would we still be having this birther issue.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Pretty pathetic that there are this many birthers on a tech forum who refuse to believe the facts. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Whats next, should someone start a thread about the world being flat?

Or perhaps y'all believe the moon landing was faked?
 

jonks

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That seems odd.

I would think whatever started this was the thing that prompted Obama to post his COLB in the 1st place. I.e., something prior to the posting of it and (bogus) claims that it was forged.

I can't find that WND timeline.

It's more a comprehensive listing of all the, um, "articles" WND has posted on the issue. I hate to give them the page clicks but it's worth it for the occassional laugh.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

It's in reverse chron, start at the bottom with: Is Obama's candidacy constitutional? (Jun 08) The hot grandma action doesn't hit till October.
 

soundforbjt

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Jhhnn said:
Nah- it just makes you a conspiracy theory nut job. If the original were produced, it too would be questioned, doubted, used to stir the shit a little deeper down in the nonsensical minds of Birthers.


I mean, you guys believed in Iraqi WMD's and their reconstituted nuclear program, even believed stories about Spetsnaz forces carrying them off to the Bekaa valley. You believe that Gitmo wasn't just a grandstand play for domestic political advantage, and you've believed in deregulated trickledown economics for 30 years, so why not believe Obama wasn't born in this country, right?

With a head full of lies, one more won't hurt, huh?

Mat1970 said:
First off, just because we didn't find WMD doesn't mean they didn't exist. Ask the Kurds or the Iranian Army if Saddam had WMD’s. But it is clear Bush trumped up data and cherry picked other data.

If you want to argue trickle down economics, we can, but that should be another thread. Lord knows these threads get sidetracked enough as it is.

There are just 2 things that really stick out in my mind regarding the Birth Certificate and that is Obama's stubborn refusal to show the original long form and Hawaii's Governor in response to all the request to see the document decides to enact a law barring it form anyone who didn't have a direct relation to it or is acting on Obama's behalf. I know there are plenty of bogus crap on the internet, like that Kenyan Birth Certificate and plenty of other bogus stuff, and if I was a true birther I would be eating that stuff up as the gospel. I just think there is enough suspicion to warrant showing the original long form. I know, I am a retard for thinking that and I am ignorant, and racist and a right wing nut and so on, and so on. I read all that countless times.

See !!!
 

shangshang

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The only good thing about D. Trump is that he has a hot daughter and I'd eat her pie anyday! haha
This country is a joke.
 

Harvey

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Pretty pathetic that there are this many birthers on a tech forum who refuse to believe the facts. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

No, ignorance is not knowing. Clinging to ignorant beliefs in the presence of hard evidence to the contrary is stupid, arrogant and dangerous.

I hope the birther jackoffs in this thread can confine the fallout from their stupid arrogance to themselves.
 
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jonks

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Holy shit.

"Now they will have a chance to find out this is Donald Trump's Pierre Salinger moment. You can't believe everything you read on the Internet. Obama has produced his birth certificate. There were announcements that ran in two contemporaneous Hawaiian newspapers at the time. The head of the Hawaiian medical records has announced, 'I have seen the long form you all want.' I don't know why the long form is considered more credible than the short form. They're both from the same office. The State Department accepts the short form or as we call it, the birth certificate," Ann Coulter told FOX News' "Hannity."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/11/ann_coulter_to_trump_birthers_drop_the_issue.html
 

Matt1970

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The head of the Hawaiian medical records has announced, 'I have seen the long form you all want.'

I guess that makes the head of the Hawaiian medical records a birther. He wasn't satisfied with what Obama has produces so far so he had to go see for himself.
 

CallMeJoe

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Birtherism appears to be working for Mr. Trump; the latest national poll of likely Republican primary voters has him tied with Governor Huckabee for the lead.




"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public"
H. L. Mencken
 

fskimospy

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I guess that makes the head of the Hawaiian medical records a birther. He wasn't satisfied with what Obama has produces so far so he had to go see for himself.

Or you could say that as part of his JOB he can be expected to apply greater scrutiny to issues of public interest.

Pretty standard conspiracy theory insanity on display here. Now attempts by public officials to assure the crazies that his birth certificate is genuine is treated as evidence of his belief in their insane conspiracy theory.

You realize you're embarrassing yourself, right?
 

Capt Caveman

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I guess that makes the head of the Hawaiian medical records a birther. He wasn't satisfied with what Obama has produces so far so he had to go see for himself.

More like, the opportunity to STFU to all the birther morons. Republican Gov validates it, the GOP validates it, the SCOTUS validates it, the Head of Medical records validates it...

Yet the leading GOP candidate, still questions it. You would think you would going after all of the birthers instead of being one.
 

werepossum

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More like, the opportunity to STFU to all the birther morons. Republican Gov validates it, the GOP validates it, the SCOTUS validates it, the Head of Medical records validates it...

Yet the leading GOP candidate, still questions it. You would think you would going after all of the birthers instead of being one.
Not that this matters, but Abercrombie is NOT a Republican. He's a lifelong liberal Democrat very much in the vein of Obama.
 

Matt1970

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More like, the opportunity to STFU to all the birther morons. Republican Gov validates it, the GOP validates it, the SCOTUS validates it, the Head of Medical records validates it...

Yet the leading GOP candidate, still questions it. You would think you would going after all of the birthers instead of being one.

Ok, they saw it. We don't need to see it. Case closed.
 

jonks

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Not that this matters, but Abercrombie is NOT a Republican. He's a lifelong liberal Democrat very much in the vein of Obama.

He meant then Gov. Linda Lingle (R) the predecessor, who campaigned for and endorsed McCain and validated the vital records. But as you said, for birthers, it didn't matter.
 

fskimospy

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Ok, they saw it. We don't need to see it. Case closed.

Glad you finally came to your senses and realized that independent verification from multiple sources of nonaligned interests across multiple branches of governments, both parties and varying professions should be enough for anyone with a functioning brain.
 

CitizenKain

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Glad you finally came to your senses and realized that independent verification from multiple sources of nonaligned interests across multiple branches of governments, both parties and varying professions should be enough for anyone with a functioning brain.

You expect some birther trash to understand that?
 

jonks

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Ok, so we've explored the Kenyan birth conspiracy and addressed all the claims (from the valid to the ridiculous) birthers have raised until they are finally and only left with one demand, that they want to see the original vital records despite official confirmations of their existence and authenticity. I have little problem with this demand in and of itself, for curiosity purposes, but refusal to produce it in no way supports any of the alternative conspiracy theories.

Now, let's move on to another conspiracy theory, that of Trig Palin. A serious look at the official story as told by Palin herself in interviews and her books, and what little media scrutiny that has been applied, has been documented by a professor at Northern Kentucky University, internationally regarded as being among the top five universities in northern Kentucky.

He released a deeply researched and sourced paper (http://www.scribd.com/doc/52841266/Prof-Brad-Scharlott-Palin-the-Press-and-the-Fake-Pregnancy-Rumor) for your perusal. It is a rather scathing indictment of the "lamestreet media" as Palin would say. It also claims the conspiracy is true, though perhaps he figured that conclusion would draw more media attention than the opposite, who knows.

For excerpted highlights and a little background see: http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-baby-hoax-2011-4?op=1

To those for whom this is of no consequence, that is a valid opinion for you to hold. I would respectfully disagree. No, Sarah is not the president, but she was a governor, was a hair away from being elected VP, and is still in the spotlight of her own accord, continues to disseminate opinions having influence with a considerable proportion of the electorate, and is a possible future GOP presidential nominee. Both she and Bristol hold outspoken opinions on teen pregnancy, abortion, sex-education and moral choices. Thus, I believe inquiry into her background on this issue is fair game. I invite anyone, on either side of the aisle, of either opinion about Trig's birth, to confront the allegations of strange happenings regarding Palin's latest pregnancy, and to offer reasonable alternative explanations for those seemingly strange issues.

My default position is that Trig is Sarah's baby. I find keeping quiet about something like this for such a length of time would be too difficult for the people involved, someone else would find out, and if anyone had any real evidence the Enquirer would have paid a bloody fortune to see it. All we really have is a list of very odd behaviors, possible inconsistencies in stories over time, and Sarah's steadfast refusal to produce the birth certificate or detailed hospital records of the birth. Well, that, and it's a seriously awesomely juicy rumor to speculate about.
 

sportage

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AZ just passed a law where any pres candidate MUST prove US citizenship.
If the AZ secretary of state feels this requirement is not met, that candidates
name will not be on the ballot in AZ.
In other words, AZ secretary of state will decide if Obama is on the AZ ballot
come this election cycle.
THAT should be interesting...
I also feel AZ should pass a law that if a male candidate is too fat to see their own wee-wee, they should be banned from running. (Same in New Jersey too! ESPECIALLY in N.J.)
 
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