Donald Trump Talks Presidential Campaign

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LegendKiller

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Well, you convinced me. Let's go to war with Mexico over immigration. That's a reasonable course of action to pursue... if you support the apocryphal dog's ass that someone shaved and made walk backwards that is Donald Trump. You are a fucking imbecile who supports a fucking imbecile for the most important elected position in the world. Frankly, I'm pretty sure you might actually be Donald Trump. Which means I gave you way too much credit for your knowledge of finance, you casino-bankrupting mirkin with legs. There's a reason every single person on Earth is abandoning Trump right now, and it's not because he "tells it like it is." It's because he tells it like he sees it, and he sees it like Helen Keller with no fingers.

I never said go to war with them, I said to enforce the border. You don't want to do that?
 

JSt0rm

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How about this...

Any company found hiring illegal immigrants CEO is put to death.
 

LegendKiller

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Thats a big border. How much money do you want the tax payer to spend on that?

How much do we spend on policing, arresting, incarcerating, social services...etc?

Probably be pretty cheap in the long run vs allowing a porous border.
 

LegendKiller

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and thats gonna cost a lot of money. Its your idea. How much do you project it costing?

Let's say you could put in the best wall available, current costs I have seen are under $10bn. Let's double that and say $20bn. Then put the National Guard on it for a year or two to show people we mean business. Maybe that costs another $2-3bn.

$22bn.

That's $2k each for 11mm illegals. How much in lifetime services, policing, arresting, incarceration, deportation, and economic costs do each one of those 11mm cost?

A lot more than $2k.

Let's say, on average, each one costs $50k for a lifetime. That means we can afford a $550bn fence to breakeven.

$22bn seems like a pretty good bargain, no?
 

JSt0rm

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Let's say you could put in the best wall available, current costs I have seen are under $10bn. Let's double that and say $20bn. Then put the National Guard on it for a year or two to show people we mean business. Maybe that costs another $2-3bn.

$22bn.

That's $2k each for 11mm illegals. How much in lifetime services, policing, arresting, incarceration, deportation, and economic costs do each one of those 11mm cost?

A lot more than $2k.

Let's say, on average, each one costs $50k for a lifetime. That means we can afford a $550bn fence to breakeven.

$22bn seems like a pretty good bargain, no?


I think a lot of them end up paying taxes. also i think you would need to permanently have the guard on the fence unless we can get a segment of the population to "take the black" and go sit on the wall for the rest of their lives.
 
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Let's say you could put in the best wall available, current costs I have seen are under $10bn. Let's double that and say $20bn. Then put the National Guard on it for a year or two to show people we mean business. Maybe that costs another $2-3bn.

$22bn.

That's $2k each for 11mm illegals. How much in lifetime services, policing, arresting, incarceration, deportation, and economic costs do each one of those 11mm cost?

A lot more than $2k.

Let's say, on average, each one costs $50k for a lifetime. That means we can afford a $550bn fence to breakeven.

$22bn seems like a pretty good bargain, no?

88,633 miles of coastline

 

ivwshane

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I think a lot of them end up paying taxes. also i think you would need to permanently have the guard on the fence unless we can get a segment of the population to "take the black" and go sit on the wall for the rest of their lives.

And none of that will address the large chunk of people who came here legally but are now considered illegal.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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$22bn seems like a pretty good bargain, no?

So your going to cut the law enforcement budget by $22bn after building a wall then?

Cos I'm thinking you're going to have to build, maintain and man that wall on top of the costs of law enforcement.
 

MongGrel

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getting rid of all the law enforcement trying to enforce that and have them actually try to manufacture something for a change would really burst their bubbles.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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Instead of paying assholes just to do stupid shit, like ride around in Hummers and River Boats that would make Vietnam era shit look lame.

Talk about welfare, it's right there in gobs of money.
 
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fskimospy

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Doesn't matter where it is from, data is data.

http://cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

More.

Are you joking? Of course it matters where it comes from. Anyone who works with data would laugh at the idea that 'data is data' regardless of the source.

You're flailing.

Thanks for a new 'study' from an ultra right nativist site, by the way, and your biased source doesn't back up what you said. You bought into trump's bullshit and got called on it. Such is life.
 
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bshole

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Let's say you could put in the best wall available, current costs I have seen are under $10bn. Let's double that and say $20bn. Then put the National Guard on it for a year or two to show people we mean business. Maybe that costs another $2-3bn.

$22bn.

That's $2k each for 11mm illegals. How much in lifetime services, policing, arresting, incarceration, deportation, and economic costs do each one of those 11mm cost?

A lot more than $2k.

Let's say, on average, each one costs $50k for a lifetime. That means we can afford a $550bn fence to breakeven.

$22bn seems like a pretty good bargain, no?

It would cost a shit ton more than that. Our economy is heavily dependent on illegal immigrant labor. Removing millions of workers who are willing to work shit jobs for shit pay could not help but effect the rest of the economy, perhaps CATASTROPHICALLY. There are numerous studies out there that examine the cost to the economy of expelling illegals, they are universally grim. Do a google search for them.

Here is one. Go out there and find some others.

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Virginia1.pdf

Bottom line, when you talk about the cost of eradicating illegal immigrants, please speak of the TOTAL cost.
 
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bshole

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And trumplestiltskin's new campaign motto

Well Donald Trump has done the raping for many years now. Typical corporate pig who declared bankruptcy 4 times (ensuring losses did not effect him). On the plus side, the people he fucked over were all bankers. So not all bad I guess.
 
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