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[zer0tech]

Thank you for your helpt!

 

[Ns1]

20 bucks an hour?

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
20 bucks an hour?

Depending on the client, I get anywhere from $30 to $50/hour, freelance. The company I work for bills my time through them out at something like $120/hour.

 

[zer0tech]

well, i was not planning to charge for hour, but for the complete work...
any ideas?

is 20 dollars an hour average price???? wow, its a lot!

 

[Gunslinger08]

Make it a time and materials contract. Give him an estimate for the # of hours and an hourly rate. Make sure he understands that it could be higher or lower than the estimated # of hours.

 

[zer0tech]

cool! thank you!! any other advices?

 

[Fourier Transform]

In any event, make sure that you agree on a _written_ contract. It will ensure you that you will get compensated fairly for your work and it will ensure your client that he/she will get what they paid you for.

 

[Ns1]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
20 bucks an hour?</end quote></div>

Depending on the client, I get anywhere from $30 to $50/hour, freelance. The company I work for bills my time through them out at something like $120/hour.</end quote></div>

This is outsourced intl. Global rates are way lower than local rates.

//edit

If you don't agree with it then fine, but a 30 second search on digitalpoint and you can find graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.

 

[zer0tech]

so,say you had to it, how many hours would it take you? and eventually how much money would you charge for it?

thank you!

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Fourier Transform
In any event, make sure that you agree on a _written_ contract. It will ensure you that you will get compensated fairly for your work and it will ensure your client that he/she will get what they paid you for.

Not sure that a written contract would be enforceable in this instance.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: zer0tech
well, i was not planning to charge for hour, but for the complete work...
any ideas?

is 20 dollars an hour average price???? wow, its a lot!

That's very hard to do without more details - there's a huge difference in work between say, a menu and a prospectus. One of the yearly projects I do is about half (page-count-wise) program rules in legalese, but those pages account for about 80% of the work involved with the book.

You mentioned it's color - is that 4/C? There's a big diff between being given all the images as color corrected CMYK with clip paths and being given a memory card from his camera phone and expected to clip out the Eiffel tower, give it a metallic PMS hit and finally build a varnish plate for it.

Hammer everything out in the contract - what content will you be provided and what will you be responsible for creating. Specify a number of rounds of corrections/changes (I do one) before an hourly rate kicks in, above and beyond the initial bid. Specify what, if any, involvement you'll have once you go to print.

 

[zer0tech]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
20 bucks an hour?</end quote></div>

Depending on the client, I get anywhere from $30 to $50/hour, freelance. The company I work for bills my time through them out at something like $120/hour.</end quote></div>

This is outsourced intl. Global rates are way lower than local rates.

//edit

If you don't agree with it then fine, but a 30 second search on digitalpoint and you can find graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.

oops! sorry i did not meant to sound mean!

But, I was just amazed on how much you earn in the US, over here in mexico we dont charge for hours, but for the size, the type of work, etc! but its way less than 20 bucks an hour (at least for freelance)

Anywaythank you!! your reply helped me!!

 

[Fourier Transform]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Fourier Transform
In any event, make sure that you agree on a _written_ contract. It will ensure you that you will get compensated fairly for your work and it will ensure your client that he/she will get what they paid you for.

Not sure that a written contract would be enforceable in this instance.

I am not a lawyer and I have no experience in these matters, but I would assume that there are laws that deal with outsourced contracts. Given how much outsourcing is going on these days, it wouldn't surprise me if there are laws to cover it.

Edit: Maybe someone more knowledgeable in this area could chime in?

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.

And usually, you get what you pay for.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.</end quote></div>

And usually, you get what you pay for.

meh. I notice no quality difference in people "who know how to use photoshop" and charge 1-30 bucks an hour.

Graphic artists who charge 50-150/hr+ however...

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: zer0tech

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
20 bucks an hour?

Depending on the client, I get anywhere from $30 to $50/hour, freelance. The company I work for bills my time through them out at something like $120/hour.

This is outsourced intl. Global rates are way lower than local rates.

//edit

If you don't agree with it then fine, but a 30 second search on digitalpoint and you can find graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.

oops! sorry i did not meant to sound mean!

But, I was just amazed on how much you earn in the US, over here in mexico we dont charge for hours, but for the size, the type of work, etc! but its way less than 20 bucks an hour (at least for freelance)

Anywaythank you!! your reply helped me!!

If you wish to charge by the job/project then:

You need to figure out how much time you estimate that it will take for you to finish the project.
Multiply that time by 25% - you are not always as good as you think the first time around.
Determine what you feel is a fair hourly rate for you.
Multiple that rate times your estimated(adjusted) hours to do the work.

Set payment schedule for work completion. This way you do not have to invest all your time into nothing if you get scammed (not paid). And the clientsees what they are paying for in steps.

You may wish to have the payment placed into escrow (held by a third party) until you have developed a working relationship with the client.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
graphic designers working for way less than 20 bucks an hour.</end quote></div>

And usually, you get what you pay for.</end quote></div>

meh. I notice no quality difference in people "who know how to use photoshop" and charge 1-30 bucks an hour.

Graphic artists who charge 50-150/hr+ however...

He ambiguously described layout work - something I'd be fairly shocked to see bill out at 100+ an hour in any volume. Retouching != layout work, and nobody should be using photoshop to produce a 16 page book, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I charge more for retouching work - though on the same note, you can find people who do that dirt cheap, too. Again, you'll often get what you pay for.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: zer0tech
Hi guys!

I'm a graphic designer from Mexico, and im gonna do some work for a guy in the US, its a booklet with these characteristics

· Booklet will be in color

· About 16 pages in length

· Probably a square printing (about 7 inch X 7 inch)

And he's asking me how much will it cost,but i dont even have an idea of how much i should charge him.

Can anyone advice me on how much should a charge, a range maybe.

Thank You very much!!

P.S. I hope i posted this in the right section

I see you posted this on OiNK.

 

[zer0tech]

hehehe Yes

OiNK's cool.

Though i got more replies here...