And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I get paid an upper middle class paycheck and I do not have kids or take advantage of other tax breaks. So I am in the high income tax bracket.
It does not bother me that the poor get more benefits than I do. I can see the value of helping the poor. In the past my family has been poor. I know people who are poor. Helping the poor, education, health care, and supporting the American way of life is how I want my taxes used.
But it does bother me when the taxes I pay go to a war that was instigated on lies or cherry picked information. How much has the Iraqi war cost in money and lifes? How much will it cost in the next 10 years?
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Are the rich screwing the poor or is it the other way around?Originally posted by: 3chordcharlieto get out from under the hand of that government.
Make up your mind!!!
The rich are not screwing over the poor, the government is.
Well thanks for that partial admission of guilt.
and who controls the Government, the poor according to you???
I don't get it - are either of you trying to make an argument, or even a 'point' here?Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: JD50
Right now? Rich Democrats
:laugh:
:thumbsup:
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
I don't get it - are either of you trying to make an argument, or even a 'point' here?Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: JD50
Right now? Rich Democrats
:laugh:
:thumbsup:
Good answer.Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
I don't get it - are either of you trying to make an argument, or even a 'point' here?Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: JD50
Right now? Rich Democrats
:laugh:
:thumbsup:
No. We're just randomly picking threads and posting random emoticons.
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Every time I see Paris Hilton I think that the rich don't pay enough taxes.
Jeff Bezos, of Amazon.com fame, is setting up a rocket HQ in Texas. Las Vegas hotel tycoon Robert Bigelow is planning to build an inflatable space station. But furthest along the rocket trail - unsurprisingly, given his ardour for boats, trains, planes and balloons - is Richard Branson. Virgin Galactic is all set to launch its first spaceship in spring 2008; among the 30,000 wannabe astronauts who have already signed up, or handed over $200,000 (£114,000) for the inaugural flight, are Paris Hilton, Dallas's Victoria Principal, ad man Trevor Beattie, and Morgan Freeman, who was quoted recently as saying he couldn't wait to "get up there in Branson's rocket".
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Every time I see Paris Hilton I think that the rich don't pay enough taxes.
Oh come on, that little cutie deserves to be able to afford her $200,000 ticket to go on a rocket ride intos space aboard the SS2.
She has done SO MUCH to make this a better world to live in.
Jeff Bezos, of Amazon.com fame, is setting up a rocket HQ in Texas. Las Vegas hotel tycoon Robert Bigelow is planning to build an inflatable space station. But furthest along the rocket trail - unsurprisingly, given his ardour for boats, trains, planes and balloons - is Richard Branson. Virgin Galactic is all set to launch its first spaceship in spring 2008; among the 30,000 wannabe astronauts who have already signed up, or handed over $200,000 (£114,000) for the inaugural flight, are Paris Hilton, Dallas's Victoria Principal, ad man Trevor Beattie, and Morgan Freeman, who was quoted recently as saying he couldn't wait to "get up there in Branson's rocket".
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Edit: LOL, I wonder how many "carbon credits" that should cost?
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Darwin333
The person who earned it? Just a guess.
Wrong. If you will read the post:
"Overall, we find that America's lowest-earning one-fifth of households received roughly $8.21 in government spending for each dollar of taxes paid in 2004. Households with middle-incomes received $1.30 per tax dollar, and America's highest-earning households received $0.41."
you will clearly see that all three groups are said to earn. So my question, had you been less thick, was which group benefits by having the greatest earnings.
Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's great. The rich are vampires that depend on a functioning society of millions of others for their wealth. Out in the jungle they would be worth less than a monkey and dead in a couple of days.
Sheesh, your ridiculous. If they earn it they deserve it. Your question is inane.
The real vampires are the poor who don't do anything to improve their life. We get lovely samples of them in our paper, people who quit part way through the year so they don't lose EITC or their other government benefits. The real vampires, who are the poor trash we see everyday, don't do anything but leech off of those who do work, who bust their ass for a better life.
I don't consider myself rich yet I can do the math. I look at my paycheck and wince when I see how much of it is lost to taxes. To schemes like Social Security. Sorry, but taking nearly 30+ percent of my paycheck DIRECTLY is criminal, followed by the nearly 20% embedded taxes in everything we buy.
Sorry, the poor only get screwed over by a government that makes sure they have just enough to survive with government services but never enough to get out from under the hand of that government.
The rich provide the wealth needed to make the jobs we all have. It isn't some damn job-fairy or the government that improves the lives of the people. At one time the government did help but not anymore. It only serves people to increase its own power.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do the poor not benefit from our society as well? In fact I think you could say that the poor benefit quite a lot from our society. Compare the poor in America to the poor just about any place else in the world.Originally posted by: miketheidiot
who gains the most though? Who has the most to lose? Basic subsidy of the poor is esential to the wealthy preserving their income, because if people start losing their belief in the system and their interest in the system, the whole thing comes crashing down.
Government is only a part of society, how much to the rich gain from society? Clearly alot, as they are rich after all.
I think it is hard to say that the poor or the rich benefit more in our society. Let?s face it, both the poor and rich gain a lot via our society.
The rich has a stable successful society in which to gain and use their wealth in, and the poor get tons of social programs and spending to help them out.
If a thief earns $500, does he deserve it? He worked for it, didn't he?Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Darwin333
The person who earned it? Just a guess.
Wrong. If you will read the post:
"Overall, we find that America's lowest-earning one-fifth of households received roughly $8.21 in government spending for each dollar of taxes paid in 2004. Households with middle-incomes received $1.30 per tax dollar, and America's highest-earning households received $0.41."
you will clearly see that all three groups are said to earn. So my question, had you been less thick, was which group benefits by having the greatest earnings.
Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's great. The rich are vampires that depend on a functioning society of millions of others for their wealth. Out in the jungle they would be worth less than a monkey and dead in a couple of days.
Sheesh, your ridiculous. If they earn it they deserve it. Your question is inane.
The real vampires are the poor who don't do anything to improve their life. We get lovely samples of them in our paper, people who quit part way through the year so they don't lose EITC or their other government benefits. The real vampires, who are the poor trash we see everyday, don't do anything but leech off of those who do work, who bust their ass for a better life.
I don't consider myself rich yet I can do the math. I look at my paycheck and wince when I see how much of it is lost to taxes. To schemes like Social Security. Sorry, but taking nearly 30+ percent of my paycheck DIRECTLY is criminal, followed by the nearly 20% embedded taxes in everything we buy.
Sorry, the poor only get screwed over by a government that makes sure they have just enough to survive with government services but never enough to get out from under the hand of that government.
The rich provide the wealth needed to make the jobs we all have. It isn't some damn job-fairy or the government that improves the lives of the people. At one time the government did help but not anymore. It only serves people to increase its own power.
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Are the rich screwing the poor or is it the other way around?Originally posted by: 3chordcharlieto get out from under the hand of that government.
Make up your mind!!!
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
The poor would be better off if they killed the rich and took their things. Thats why we have police and law, at least in part.
Are you serious?Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
The poor would be better off if they killed the rich and took their things. Thats why we have police and law, at least in part.
Yeah, because people on welfare with no education are better suited to run billion dollar corporations and make big decisions than rich people. The poor would squander the wealth in a week, why do you think everyone is in debt? The masses are a bunch of idiots who can't manage their money.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Are you serious?Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
The poor would be better off if they killed the rich and took their things. Thats why we have police and law, at least in part.
Yeah, because people on welfare with no education are better suited to run billion dollar corporations and make big decisions than rich people. The poor would squander the wealth in a week, why do you think everyone is in debt? The masses are a bunch of idiots who can't manage their money.
Everyone is in debt because otherwise there would be no money.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Darwin333
The person who earned it? Just a guess.
Wrong. If you will read the post:
"Overall, we find that America's lowest-earning one-fifth of households received roughly $8.21 in government spending for each dollar of taxes paid in 2004. Households with middle-incomes received $1.30 per tax dollar, and America's highest-earning households received $0.41."
you will clearly see that all three groups are said to earn. So my question, had you been less thick, was which group benefits by having the greatest earnings.
Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's great. The rich are vampires that depend on a functioning society of millions of others for their wealth. Out in the jungle they would be worth less than a monkey and dead in a couple of days.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Are you serious?Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
The poor would be better off if they killed the rich and took their things. Thats why we have police and law, at least in part.
Yeah, because people on welfare with no education are better suited to run billion dollar corporations and make big decisions than rich people. The poor would squander the wealth in a week, why do you think everyone is in debt? The masses are a bunch of idiots who can't manage their money.
Everyone is in debt because otherwise there would be no money.
He's just looking for some place he can fatten his ego. He fancies calling millions of people idiots makes him smart. This always happens when people actually feel stupid. Suddenly pretending to be smart becomes an issue.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He's just looking for some place he can fatten his ego. He fancies calling millions of people idiots makes him smart. This always happens when people actually feel stupid. Suddenly pretending to be smart becomes an issue.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered.
...
Please get your ass up to speed.
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Darwin333
The person who earned it? Just a guess.
Wrong. If you will read the post:
"Overall, we find that America's lowest-earning one-fifth of households received roughly $8.21 in government spending for each dollar of taxes paid in 2004. Households with middle-incomes received $1.30 per tax dollar, and America's highest-earning households received $0.41."
you will clearly see that all three groups are said to earn. So my question, had you been less thick, was which group benefits by having the greatest earnings.
Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's great. The rich are vampires that depend on a functioning society of millions of others for their wealth. Out in the jungle they would be worth less than a monkey and dead in a couple of days.
hate to break it to you moon, but this is the jungle and only the strong survive...oh wait no...the weak do to because the strong have to carry their sorry asses.
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He's just looking for some place he can fatten his ego. He fancies calling millions of people idiots makes him smart. This always happens when people actually feel stupid. Suddenly pretending to be smart becomes an issue.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered.
...
Please get your ass up to speed.
:roll:
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Are you serious?Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You imbecile, who gets the benefits in terms of income.
WHO EARNS THE MONEY MORON. The poor get money they didn't earn, the rich earned their money and have it taken and given to the poor.
Jesus Christ, you butt-head, that point was already covered. You thing you can make the same asinine comment as the last fool and suddenly it becomes true. The OP established we are talking about people who earn. And we already also established that without the poor and middle class the parasitic rich would starve. Please get your ass up to speed.
And the poor would be FAR worse off as well if the rich didnt contribute no? Each benefit from the other....
The poor would be better off if they killed the rich and took their things. Thats why we have police and law, at least in part.
Yeah, because people on welfare with no education are better suited to run billion dollar corporations and make big decisions than rich people. The poor would squander the wealth in a week, why do you think everyone is in debt? The masses are a bunch of idiots who can't manage their money.
Everyone is in debt because otherwise there would be no money.
He's just looking for some place he can fatten his ego. He fancies calling millions of people idiots makes him smart. This always happens when people actually feel stupid. Suddenly pretending to be smart becomes an issue.
/nod thats right! Because in Moon's world everyone is equal and there are no winners or losers! Just think...that guy that panhandles is just waiting for an opportunity. If only the CEO of a fortune 500 company would just give him a chance, he could do his job!
Originally posted by: blackangst1
/nod thats right! Because in Moon's world everyone is equal and there are no winners or losers! Just think...that guy that panhandles is just waiting for an opportunity. If only the CEO of a fortune 500 company would just give him a chance, he could do his job!
You don't get it. The 'poor' in American live a better life style than many people in Europe who would be called middle class over there.Originally posted by: miketheidiot
You don't get it do you. If the poor gained alot from society, they wouldn't be called the poor would they?Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do the poor not benefit from our society as well? In fact I think you could say that the poor benefit quite a lot from our society. Compare the poor in America to the poor just about any place else in the world.Originally posted by: miketheidiot
who gains the most though? Who has the most to lose? Basic subsidy of the poor is esential to the wealthy preserving their income, because if people start losing their belief in the system and their interest in the system, the whole thing comes crashing down.
Government is only a part of society, how much to the rich gain from society? Clearly alot, as they are rich after all.
I think it is hard to say that the poor or the rich benefit more in our society. Let?s face it, both the poor and rich gain a lot via our society.
The rich has a stable successful society in which to gain and use their wealth in, and the poor get tons of social programs and spending to help them out.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You don't get it. The 'poor' in American live a better life style than many people in Europe who would be called middle class over there.Originally posted by: miketheidiot
You don't get it do you. If the poor gained alot from society, they wouldn't be called the poor would they?Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do the poor not benefit from our society as well? In fact I think you could say that the poor benefit quite a lot from our society. Compare the poor in America to the poor just about any place else in the world.Originally posted by: miketheidiot
who gains the most though? Who has the most to lose? Basic subsidy of the poor is esential to the wealthy preserving their income, because if people start losing their belief in the system and their interest in the system, the whole thing comes crashing down.
Government is only a part of society, how much to the rich gain from society? Clearly alot, as they are rich after all.
I think it is hard to say that the poor or the rich benefit more in our society. Let?s face it, both the poor and rich gain a lot via our society.
The rich has a stable successful society in which to gain and use their wealth in, and the poor get tons of social programs and spending to help them out.
Compare our 'poor' to the 'poor' in Africa or Southeast Asia or even Mexico.
The typical 'poor' person in America has a car, 2 TVs, air condition and more food than they should eat (hence the obesity epidemic effecting our lower class.)
They have all this great stuff because as a society we are insanely rich compared too many parts of the world. We have this great wealth because the rich in this country are so great at creating wealth. And when the wealth of our society as whole increases everyone benefits.