Don't buy a BMW?

[Ns1]

yeah my respect for BMW went down a bit after that =X

 

[XavierMace]

Sadly, yes, it's genuine.

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/5056/BMW-LED-DOOR-PROJECTORS

 

[AdamK47]

BMWLOL

 

[XavierMace]

That said, while BMW may be the first to offer them from a factory, door projectors have been a thing for years. I want to say the first car I saw them on was a Lexus. If people are paying for aftermarket ones, why not offer them from the factory?

 

[hans007]

Dear god. I am sure you can turn that off...but sheesh BMW. The brand has definitely lost its way in search of sales.

is that really real!!! wow.

I'm a former F30 owner. Currently driving a B9 Audi A4.

that said I want to go back to BMW someday... or at least another RWD make. But wowowowow. that logo projector that has to be fake. Personally I'm even opposed to the whole M series with M340i etc.

BMW still makes great cars but i feel their engineers hate their marketing people now. M apparently stands for marketing these days if that means M sport or M performance...sigh.

 

[PricklyPete]

is that really real!!! wow.

I'm a former F30 owner. Currently driving a B9 Audi A4.

that said I want to go back to BMW someday... or at least another RWD make. But wowowowow. that logo projector that has to be fake. Personally I'm even opposed to the whole M series with M340i etc.

BMW still makes great cars but i feel their engineers hate their marketing people now. M apparently stands for marketing these days if that means M sport or M performance...sigh.

I wasn’t huge on the M-sport and M performance at first...but actually it makes sense to me now. There is a huge performance gap between a base model 320i and a M3. There is also a huge tuning market for people who want performance parts that wouldn’t apply to your typical customer. Why not offer it...and might as well use the aspirational brand to promote those parts.

The M240i is a fantastic car...but it certainly is not an M2... and at this point in my life... that step down from an M2 is probably what I would prefer. So there is a market for that step down from a true M car.

 

[rh71]

BMW still makes great cars but i feel their engineers hate their marketing people now. M apparently stands for marketing these days if that means M sport or M performance...sigh.

Exactly - BMW performance engineers have no say in how their cars are done up after the fact. If you guys are professionals in any capacity for work, you would know that a lot plays into a vehicle's production and release, not to mention it varies across models. The hate can be about anything, but to openly judge a whole company on 1 group or dept's decision is short-sighted and juvenile. I'm sure some of their engineers rolled their eyes when they told them exhaust sound would be piped in through the speakers too. Or yes, slapping the M on lesser variants.

Who's responsible? The buyers who seek or want it. Now a for-profit company has a decision to make and guess what the marketing dept's job is?

 

[Drako]

Sadly, yes, it's genuine.

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/5056/BMW-LED-DOOR-PROJECTORS

Ford has been doing this for at least 5 years. I think it's actually kind of nice when it's dark.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I was more reluctant to go with a BMW after reading about how the newer engines burned all that extra oil and the manufacturers pretend that it was engineered that way.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/bmw-tops-thirsty-30-list-new-vehicles-burning-excessive-oil

 

[JCH13]

I was more reluctant to go with a BMW after reading about how the newer engines burned all that extra oil and the manufacturers pretend that it was engineered that way.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/bmw-tops-thirsty-30-list-new-vehicles-burning-excessive-oil

That's more than my RX8 that injects oil into the engine on purpose...

 

[rstrohkirch]

“BMW vehicles have long intervals between oil changes (10,000 miles). BMW engines (excluding the BMW M) may consume up to one quart of engine oil per 750 miles under certain driving conditions.” He added that BMW’s M performance models may consume even more oil than that.

 

[zinfamous]

the real reason why you shouldn't buy a new BMW these days. Could they make this any douchier?

The new BMW DC series

...for "douche canoe" obv.

 

[KIAman]

Please, Mercedes Benze and Audi both have door projectors. It's just bling to make additional money. It's not exclusive douche projector isolated to BMW.

 

[Ns1]

Please, Mercedes Benze and Audi both have door projectors. It's just bling to make additional money. It's not exclusive douche projector isolated to BMW.

wow, that's all terrible.

 

[PricklyPete]

The new BMW DC series

...for "douche canoe" obv.

I just dropped my car off to have 35 additional douche ponies added (so I can merge faster and thus negating the need for a blinker). I will have to call them up to add the projector as well.

 

[sdifox]

I just dropped my car off to have 35 additional douche ponies added (so I can merge faster and thus negating the need for a blinker). I will have to call them up to add the projector as well.

Put the Benz one on for extra douche points.

 

[XavierMace]

I was more reluctant to go with a BMW after reading about how the newer engines burned all that extra oil and the manufacturers pretend that it was engineered that way.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/bmw-tops-thirsty-30-list-new-vehicles-burning-excessive-oil

As that article mentions, Audi and Subaru also claim it's normal. I had that discussion with Subaru when I bought my BRZ. Like the door projectors, it's hardly limited to BMW.

 

[jlee]

As that article mentions, Audi and Subaru also claim it's normal. I had that discussion with Subaru when I bought my BRZ. Like the door projectors, it's hardly limited to BMW.

It's not limited to BMW, but they're certainly winning the 2014 contest by a huge margin. Now, if you are unlucky enough to have a 2010-2011 Audi A4 2.0T..well, buy by the case!

I'm curious if the 2014 column will change when they're of the equivalent age as the 2010 models on this chart. Note the trend of improvements year to year, though sometimes it does go backwards:

 

[XavierMace]

Yeah, no argument on that. But their data leaves a lot to be desired. Or at least how they're presenting it.

Only 2 models of the 5 series came with a V8 for the model years in that chart. The 550i (N63) and the M5 (S63). They list the 6 cylinder separately, further down the list. Assuming this is US market only, that means that's the 535i (N55). The 335i sedan (N55) is listed by itself, then they have 335Ci listed further down. BMW didn't make a 335Ci any of the years on the chart. Assuming they're referring to the convertible (given that's how they used to be named), that begs the question why list it separate (and incorrectly) given they have exactly the same engine/drive train as the sedan? What about the 335i coupe which again is identical from an engine/drivetrain standpoint? The 6 series has the same N55, N63, S63 engine options as the 5 and 7 series but isn't separated.

The 1 series and X3's which use the same N55's on their top models are completely absent from the list. As is the version of the X5 with the N55. None of the lower end models nor diesel models of any of the series are on the list at all. I'm not an Audi guy, so I don't know if it's the same story there but the fact they specify engine on some of them would lead me to believe yes. But the Subaru's, Volvo's and Porsche's are all available with multiple engines. Was the data spread completely evenly across those engine options? That seems unlikely. So why not split them up?

To me it kinda feels like they went out of their way to split up the German cars as much as possible to make the list longer.

 

[zinfamous]

Put the Benz one on for extra douche points.

No, it should project the Type R logo.

 

[PricklyPete]

No, it should project the Type R logo.

That is equal to two VTEC stickers right? So maybe another 10hp.

 

[zinfamous]

That is equal to two VTEC stickers right? So maybe another 10hp.

I think that checks out. And lol @ douche ponies

 

[PricklyPete]

I think that checks out. And lol @ douche ponies

You have to embrace the life choices you make. ;-)

 

[repoman0]

I was more reluctant to go with a BMW after reading about how the newer engines burned all that extra oil and the manufacturers pretend that it was engineered that way.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/bmw-tops-thirsty-30-list-new-vehicles-burning-excessive-oil

Old ones burn oil too. Both of my M54 cars (one past and one current) drink about a liter per 2-3k miles or so. I buy Mobil 1 by the six pack on Amazon for $25. Consensus on the forums is that is indeed normal and is due to BMW's choice to use low tension piston rings to increase fuel economy. I don't know if they're covering their asses by saying it was engineered that way, but I'd take a slight fuel economy hit to not burn any oil. It's the one thing that really irritates me about the e46 generation cars.

My M3 with the S54 engine on the other hand burns nothing at all, mirroring the majority experience on other forums. The fuel economy excuse seems pretty weak when the M division managed to make a car that is rated for 16/24 as compared to the standard M54 at 18/27 ... but at +120hp

 

[PricklyPete]

Old ones burn oil too. Both of my M54 cars (one past and one current) drink about a liter per 2-3k miles or so. I buy Mobil 1 by the six pack on Amazon for $25. Consensus on the forums is that is indeed normal and is due to BMW's choice to use low tension piston rings to increase fuel economy. I don't know if they're covering their asses by saying it was engineered that way, but I'd take a slight fuel economy hit to not burn any oil. It's the one thing that really irritates me about the e46 generation cars.

My M3 with the S54 engine on the other hand burns nothing at all, mirroring the majority experience on other forums. The fuel economy excuse seems pretty weak when the M division managed to make a car that is rated for 16/24 as compared to the standard M54 at 18/27 ... but at +120hp

I don’t know about you, but I was lucky to get 16mpg in my E46 M3...still miss that engine.