Don't get caught speeding in Canada

[coldmeat]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I agree that people driving 50kph over the speed limit should be handled the same as a racer.

You've not been on the QEW; i.e. you don't know what you're talking about.

What? My parents live near Ottawa and I drive on the QEW probably a lot more than you do. You live in Alabama, so don't tell me about how people drive here.

Oh, and I also live in Guelph, which is a "sleeper city" for Toronto, so I have quite a bit of experience with driving on the 401.

140 is definitely not the rate that traffic flows on either the QEW or the 401. The people driving 140 are the idiots. 120 is about the rate of traffic flow.

You're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about.

Originally posted by: Skoorb
For 154? You've never done this? And if you never have, the worst thing here is your social life. Must have sucked not having friends with cars when you were 16.

omg. You are an idiot.

Most of my friends had cars when I was 16, but none of us were stupid enough to drive that fast. It's ridiculous that you think that because you don't break the law, you're social life is non-existent.

Please, stop being such an idiot.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

hell, we can't even have studded snow tires here. never mind that they out perform any other tire in snow and ice by a huge margin and would save many lives and prevent many accidents and reduce insurance rates.

It was destroying the highways. You would have seen more construction and higher taxes if they weren't outlawed.

BS.

there was no damage ever attributed to the use of studded tires. The excuse was that a stud could come loose and kill someone.

All other Provinces and Territories allow them.

 

[CanOWorms]

They have to have some way to fund the Queen's lifestyle. She wants a new diamond.

 

[musicman64]

Great story. Hopefully we'll see such measures implemented in major cities here in the US. Speeding is completely out of control, with no where near enough enforcement.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

hell, we can't even have studded snow tires here. never mind that they out perform any other tire in snow and ice by a huge margin and would save many lives and prevent many accidents and reduce insurance rates.

It was destroying the highways. You would have seen more construction and higher taxes if they weren't outlawed.

BS.

there was no damage ever attributed to the use of studded tires. The excuse was that a stud could come loose and kill someone.

All other Provinces and Territories allow them.

No, the problem was that the studs were damaging the concrete. With southern Ontario having North America's busiest freeway, it comes at no surprise.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: coldmeat

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I agree that people driving 50kph over the speed limit should be handled the same as a racer.

You've not been on the QEW; i.e. you don't know what you're talking about.

What? My parents live near Ottawa and I drive on the QEW probably a lot more than you do. You live in Alabama, so don't tell me about how people drive here.

Oh, and I also live in Guelph, which is a "sleeper city" for Toronto, so I have quite a bit of experience with driving on the 401.

140 is definitely not the rate that traffic flows on either the QEW or the 401. The people driving 140 are the idiots. 120 is about the rate of traffic flow.

You're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about.

Originally posted by: Skoorb
For 154? You've never done this? And if you never have, the worst thing here is your social life. Must have sucked not having friends with cars when you were 16.

omg. You are an idiot.

Most of my friends had cars when I was 16, but none of us were stupid enough to drive that fast. It's ridiculous that you think that because you don't break the law, you're social life is non-existent.

Please, stop being such an idiot.

He used to live in the GTA. And what the hell does the QEW have to do with Ottawa and Guelph?

 

[geokilla]

Serves you right for going 54kph over the 100kph speed limit.

BTW, I think the over 50kph law applies to only Ontario. And radar detectors ARE illegal anywhere in Canada. I know this because I'm a Canadian.

That said, I hope you win your court battle. It sucks to lose like $10 000 in one day.

 

[TwiceOver]

Isn't there some states in the US that "Radar Detectors" are illegal? I quote that because they are the biggest scam in history. Seriously if your detector goes off, you have been detected and you are fucked. Just drive the speed limit... asshat.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: geokilla
Serves you right for going 54kph over the 100kph speed limit.

BTW, I think the over 50kph law applies to only Ontario. And radar detectors ARE illegal anywhere in Canada. I know this because I'm a Canadian.

That said, I hope you win your court battle. It sucks to lose like $10 000 in one day.

Who are you talking to?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Isn't there some states in the US that "Radar Detectors" are illegal? I quote that because they are the biggest scam in history. Seriously if your detector goes off, you have been detected and you are fucked. Just drive the speed limit... asshat.

answer

 

[thepd7]

Don't we have this same law in most states? I was under the impression that 25 mph over the limit can be considered reckless driving, that's why I don't go 25 over.

 

[GeekDrew]

/me makes mental note to never drive in Canada

I would be all for obeying the speed limit if, and only if, the speed limit were determined by engineers that calculated the appropriate maximum speed given the environmental conditions that would probably occur, and NOT elected officials that are acting on the public's behalf. There are several stretches of road nearby that are limited to 45 MPH, but I've talked to the engineer who designed them, and he rated it for 80 MPH. Meanwhile, the county sheriff and state patrol makes a ton of money off of speeding tickets...

And FWIW, I have a radar detector, and I couldn't begin to count the number of times it's helped me. Very, very few patrol vehicles use instant on in my area; the vast majority use constant on.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: geokilla

BTW, I think the over 50kph law applies to only Ontario. And radar detectors ARE illegal anywhere in Canada. I know this because I'm a Canadian.

they are legal in alberta, BC, and saskatchewan.

 

[NoShangriLa]

That is way more than the $1200 fine for doing 193 Km/h in a 75 Km/h zone that I got in the late 80s in BC Canada.

I don't have such a leaded foot after the fine I got, and I would follow the posted speed to the dot if the law is as harsh as what the OP posted.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: geokilla
Serves you right for going 54kph over the 100kph speed limit.

BTW, I think the over 50kph law applies to only Ontario. And radar detectors ARE illegal anywhere in Canada. I know this because I'm a Canadian.

That said, I hope you win your court battle. It sucks to lose like $10 000 in one day.

Eh............ I've seen them used in BC ........ no problemo.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
/me makes mental note to never drive in Canada

I would be all for obeying the speed limit if, and only if, the speed limit were determined by engineers that calculated the appropriate maximum speed given the environmental conditions that would probably occur, and NOT elected officials that are acting on the public's behalf. There are several stretches of road nearby that are limited to 45 MPH, but I've talked to the engineer who designed them, and he rated it for 80 MPH. Meanwhile, the county sheriff and state patrol makes a ton of money off of speeding tickets...

And FWIW, I have a radar detector, and I couldn't begin to count the number of times it's helped me. Very, very few patrol vehicles use instant on in my area; the vast majority use constant on.

That 80 mph might be fine when the road is empty and in good shape. But add in some traffic, a small pothole or two and some re-tread from a truck, then you'd be crazy to go that fast.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
/me makes mental note to never drive in Canada

I would be all for obeying the speed limit if, and only if, the speed limit were determined by engineers that calculated the appropriate maximum speed given the environmental conditions that would probably occur, and NOT elected officials that are acting on the public's behalf. There are several stretches of road nearby that are limited to 45 MPH, but I've talked to the engineer who designed them, and he rated it for 80 MPH. Meanwhile, the county sheriff and state patrol makes a ton of money off of speeding tickets...

And FWIW, I have a radar detector, and I couldn't begin to count the number of times it's helped me. Very, very few patrol vehicles use instant on in my area; the vast majority use constant on.

That 80 mph might be fine when the road is empty and in good shape. But add in some traffic, a small pothole or two and some re-tread from a truck, then you'd be crazy to go that fast.

Ever been in the Chicago area?

I have not-so-fond memories of driving through a construction zone. All the trucks were going 80. Bad pavement. Speed limit: 45. You'd be crazy to go that slow.

Pretty much the biggest risk factor on the road is differential speed...that is, the relative difference in speed between you and all the cars in your immediate vicinity. High differential speeds are dangerous even in perfect conditions, low differential speeds (with enough following distance) is almost as safe as being the only car on the road.

If the roads were designed for 80MPH, you can bet that plenty of drivers are speeding like crazy on them...after all, the roads are smooth and flat and good. And then some drivers aren't speeding. This is dangerous. It would have been safer to rate them at 60MPH or something, and reduce the differential speed without getting near the limits of what the road can handle.

As for 80 MPH being "crazy", there are tons of roads with 70MPH speed limits. And yes, they have traffic, potholes, and retread. All the time.

 

[Toastedlightly]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197072,00.html

I wanna go to texas now

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: jagec
Pretty much the biggest risk factor on the road is differential speed...that is, the relative difference in speed between you and all the cars in your immediate vicinity. High differential speeds are dangerous even in perfect conditions, low differential speeds (with enough following distance) is almost as safe as being the only car on the road.

Yep, a good steady flow and low amounts of morons(=people who tailgate others at 100 km/h) will make for a nice safe driving experience for everyone involved.

 

[Anubis]

im really not seeing what the issue is here, if you were going 30+ MPH over the limit in the US, you would face very similar charges, prob not the impound bit but that much over in some states is a loss of licence and a bunch of fines, certian states also have radar laws and well yea

dont drive like a moron
prob solved

 

[Number1]

Now normaly I would not have a problem with this law but look at what they are doing now. They have passed this law and now as further enhancement to it, anybody cut driving with a blood level between .05 and .08 gets an automatic three-day suspension and likely a painful hike in their auto-insurance premiums in the range of 20 to 40%.


For now, the 12-hour suspendee who collects his licence from the police station the next day emerges relatively unscathed.

In other part of the country, it is now illegal to smoke in your own car if there is a child in it. (Wolfville Nova Scotia) The province is so impressed with this new law they are thinking of making it a provincial law.......

 

[Auric]

I am amused that the dude pleaded "Please don't do this...what about my dorgs?". The signage and common sense had first axed: "Please don't speed or endager your pets". The dude chose not to abide.

 

[DukeN]

These were a knee-jerk reaction done as usual by influence from Julian Fantino (Police commish here in Ontario). This is the same guy who admitted to racial profiling and even seemed to encourage it.

 

[her209]

Hmmm... had this happen in the U.S. could the police seize your car without a warrant from a Judge?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: her209
Hmmm... had this happen in the U.S. could the police seize your car without a warrant from a Judge?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Welp, when a lone driver has their license suspended for breaking the law then the vehicle cannot be left cluttering the highway now can it? So it must at least be removed whether impounded or not. It's not unreasonable when the law has been broken anyway and in this case it has not been seized, as such, but will be returned.