Dont smoke weird marijuana.

[Mursilis]

Sort of ironic that natural weed is harmless yet illegal whereas the synthetic crap is legal yet deadly.

Is "harmless" really accurate? I'm pro-legalization, but I don't think it's harmless either. I just don't think I should be making other people's health choices.

 

[Agent11]

If it was possible to overdose on it I would know.

I have yet to see a serious study that shows any harm from it and it has been cultivated by man for millennia. I think harmless is a pretty apt description.

 

[Oyeve]

Darwin at work, nothing to see here.

This was my first though. Legal drugs or not, stupid is just plain stupid.

 

[lotus503]

Is "harmless" really accurate? I'm pro-legalization, but I don't think it's harmless either. I just don't think I should be making other people's health choices.

Its proven to be less harmful than Booze.

 

[Mursilis]

Its proven to be less harmful than Booze.

Which doesn't mean it's harmless. I was just reading about it online, and evidence seems to be mixed, with not a lot of studies having been conducted.

Either way, my opinion isn't changing - I support legalization, for practical and ideological reasons, and for personal and health reasons, I don't plan on trying it. I have family that use it, and it doesn't bother me, but it's not my choice.

 

[airdata]

maybe if she just said no to drugs she would be fine now.

but some people don't want to hear that.

Well, she wouldn't be smoking random shit if there wasn't a stigma against smoking pot, which we all know is harmless.

 

[Agent11]

It's been cultivated for thousands of years. We domesticated it to serve society with it's fiber, oil, and psychoactive properties.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

The possibilities posed by the story -- materialized risk -- had bothered me in the old days during the twilight between my college life and "responsible career." I remember an article touted on the front page of "High Times" or a similar publication, speaking to adulterants and organisms contaminating the run-of-the-mill Mexican grass. And there was also a substance known as "Paraquat," used to spray the grass fields and make the product unpleasant or unuseable by its intended consumers.

At least now, with the tenuous status-quo of medical cannabis in California, you can be relatively free of such uncertainties and not much less so in the absence of FDA or lab-testing regulation of the product.

I cannot ignore the general implications of a disparity between federal and state law, whichever side of the issue I advocate. I'd just like it to be resolved. Frankly, I even advocate making it available for recreational use.

But . . . . "Long is the way, and hard is the road" to such and end.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

The girl was known to smoke pot. Her parents knew about it. Why was she smoking this legal drug if she had access to pot? All of you saying "If only pot was legal" assume she did this drug because pot was illegal. I am assuming she did it for a different high. Why do people do shrooms, lsd or heroin instead of pot? All are illegal...

Why do you think if pot was legalized that people would not use other drugs still? Other drugs that can cause more damage?

This is an example of a legal drug that caused brain damage. You don't realize that this makes a case for keeping it criminal. If legal drugs can cause this much damage, imagine how much damage it will do if we legalize them all. Do you think that there won't be an entire industry born of making new and weird drugs like spice? Or should we only legalize drugs that grow naturally?

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

Well, she wouldn't be smoking random shit if there wasn't a stigma against smoking pot, which we all know is harmless.

She was known to smoke pot. Suddenly she has a problem with it and says "no, I'm doing a LEGAL drug!" Look at her pic. I think she doesn't care about stigmas.

I think she was bored with pot and wanted something new.

 

[dank69]

The girl was known to smoke pot. Her parents knew about it. Why was she smoking this legal drug if she had access to pot? All of you saying "If only pot was legal" assume she did this drug because pot was illegal. I am assuming she did it for a different high. Why do people do shrooms, lsd or heroin instead of pot? All are illegal...

Why do you think if pot was legalized that people would not use other drugs still? Other drugs that can cause more damage?

This is an example of a legal drug that caused brain damage. You don't realize that this makes a case for keeping it criminal. If legal drugs can cause this much damage, imagine how much damage it will do if we legalize them all. Do you think that there won't be an entire industry born of making new and weird drugs like spice? Or should we only legalize drugs that grow naturally?

She was known to smoke pot. Suddenly she has a problem with it and says "no, I'm doing a LEGAL drug!" Look at her pic. I think she doesn't care about stigmas.

I think she was bored with pot and wanted something new.

You are speculating. Maybe everyone she knew was out of weed at the time? Who knows why she really did it? I guarantee if coke was legal nobody would be dicking around with this fake shit.

 

[Wreckem]

Which doesn't mean it's harmless. I was just reading about it online, and evidence seems to be mixed, with not a lot of studies having been conducted.

Either way, my opinion isn't changing - I support legalization, for practical and ideological reasons, and for personal and health reasons, I don't plan on trying it. I have family that use it, and it doesn't bother me, but it's not my choice.

Its also less harmful than a lot prescription medicine and cigarettes.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

You are speculating. Maybe everyone she knew was out of weed at the time? Who knows why she really did it? I guarantee if coke was legal nobody would be dicking around with this fake shit.

So you think coke should be legal too? Coke is also fake, although a portion of it comes from a natural substance. How is this less real than coke? And are you really that naive to think that coke will satisfy everyone and nobody will make designer drugs?

Why would nobody dick around with other drugs if coke were legal? Coke and methamphetamine are both categorized the same...why do we have so many meth heads when coke brings the same punishment and meth is so much more looked down upon?

Spice is legal. Why do people dick around with weed then?

Do you think that drugs like coke should be available to a 16-year-old? How about weed? If we legalize pot, should there be an age limit?

 

[HumblePie]

Its proven to be less harmful than Booze.

Booze is only harmful in excess quantities. Alcohol has been shown to provide many great health benefits if used wisely. That is the key.

 

[dank69]

So you think coke should be legal too? Coke is also fake, although a portion of it comes from a natural substance. How is this less real than coke? And are you really that naive to think that coke will satisfy everyone and nobody will make designer drugs?

Why would nobody dick around with other drugs if coke were legal? Coke and methamphetamine are both categorized the same...why do we have so many meth heads when coke brings the same punishment and meth is so much more looked down upon?

Spice is legal. Why do people dick around with weed then?

Do you think that drugs like coke should be available to a 16-year-old? How about weed? If we legalize pot, should there be an age limit?

Of course there should be an age limit. Who said anything about no age limits? And yes I think coke should be legal. And yes there might be designer drugs but most people who aren't suicidal aren't going to fuck around with sketchy shit if they have access to legal drugs that can put them into the stratosphere safely.

 

[Juddog]

People will literally do anything to get high, heck they'll huff a can of paint if they have to.

Just legalize the good stuff and you won't have crap like this.

 

[randomrogue]

You know, you shouldn't need to tell your kids that smoking potpourri, kitty litter, tampons, asbestos, or sea shells might be a bad idea.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

Of course there should be an age limit. Who said anything about no age limits? And yes I think coke should be legal. And yes there might be designer drugs but most people who aren't suicidal aren't going to fuck around with sketchy shit if they have access to legal drugs that can put them into the stratosphere safely.

I was asking, because she was only 16. Presumably the age limit would be 18 or 21, so either way they would have been illegal to her and she would have been in the same boat.

You cannot see the fault of your own thinking.

She had access to legal drugs. She did a legal drug and got brain damaged.

How is coke or heroin or meth and less sketchy than spice? To that end, who decides what is sketchy?

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

People will literally do anything to get high, heck they'll huff a can of paint if they have to.

Just legalize the good stuff and you won't have crap like this.

Why? What is good stuff? Why do you get to decide? Maybe someone thinks spice and K2 is the good stuff and that coke and heroin are bad for you.

 

[Juddog]

Why? What is good stuff? Why do you get to decide? Maybe someone thinks spice and K2 is the good stuff and that coke and heroin are bad for you.

Good stuff = stuff that requires a huge amount to die from.
Examples: weed, mushrooms, etc.

Bad stuff = stuff that you can die from given just a small amount to cause an overdose.
Examples: Coke (heart attack), Heroin (easy to OD and die), etc.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

The girl was known to smoke pot. Her parents knew about it. Why was she smoking this legal drug if she had access to pot? All of you saying "If only pot was legal" assume she did this drug because pot was illegal. I am assuming she did it for a different high. Why do people do shrooms, lsd or heroin instead of pot? All are illegal...

Why do you think if pot was legalized that people would not use other drugs still? Other drugs that can cause more damage?

This is an example of a legal drug that caused brain damage. You don't realize that this makes a case for keeping it criminal. If legal drugs can cause this much damage, imagine how much damage it will do if we legalize them all. Do you think that there won't be an entire industry born of making new and weird drugs like spice? Or should we only legalize drugs that grow naturally?

You could reasonably legalize and regulate drugs that grow naturally, If there is either little evidence of lasting harm from those products or whatever harm in various categories is no more or less than other substances that are legal and regulated -- like ethanol products -- that sort of policy might be harmless.

If there is some various set of medical benefits, you have another increase to the "benefit" side.

But designer drugs have no history showing proof, fact, side-effects, accidents, dangerous behaviors and so on. Cannabis has a history of "known effects" and risks that go back thousands of years, and there is a general consensus that it is probably less debilitating than alcohol, or otherwise with risks that are same or lower. But with the designer drugs and bath salts, we have incidents of people streaking, stripping, smashing windows and generally flipping out.

So far, we have the social experiments of Holland, Portugal, . . . . California and so forth. We see the issues emerge over enforcement and prosecution with state laws in conflict with federal laws. We even see a confusing trend in California, with litigation over whether localities can ban or zone marijuana dispensaries.

With the new specialty of Cannabis-prescribing doctors, You can possess it, possibly cultivate it with an enhanced state-certification, and share it with your network of sufferers.

Yet that doesn't guarantee a zero risk of legal trouble for it, but keeps you at the bottom of the DEA's unfunded or null-pross enforcement list. Here, it so far seems that the Fed won't go after certain categories of users or growers, but this is simply an administrative decision, and it can change.

 

[airdata]

She was known to smoke pot. Suddenly she has a problem with it and says "no, I'm doing a LEGAL drug!" Look at her pic. I think she doesn't care about stigmas.

I think she was bored with pot and wanted something new.

One who has pot does not buy fake pot to smoke.

Fake pot only exists because of pot prohibition and drug testing.

Some people who are on probation or who get regularly drug tested for other reasons turn to other drugs that won't remain in their system all because a drug made illegal w\ propaganda is demonized despite being safer than legal drugs that are celebrated parts of our culture.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

One who has pot does not buy fake pot to smoke.

Fake pot only exists because of pot prohibition and drug testing.

Some people who are on probation or who get regularly drug tested for other reasons turn to other drugs that won't remain in their system all because a drug made illegal w\ propaganda is demonized despite being safer than legal drugs that are celebrated parts of our culture.

This is a false proposition. She had access to pot and smoked it regularly by news reports.

Only some of these salts are "fake pot." They are a different class of drugs and you are deluding yourself if you think people would not smoke them if pot were available. That is like saying you wouldn't smoke pot if alcohol was available, or you wouldn't do shrooms if pot was available.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Sad, guess she shoulda stayed with the real deal. gg WoD..

 

[88keys]

maybe if she just said no to drugs she would be fine now.

but some people don't want to hear that.

I suppose you have never drank alcohol, smoked a cigarette nor taken over the counter meds?

If she would have stuck to the real thing she would be fine now... But some people don't wanna hear that

Sort of ironic that natural weed is harmless yet illegal whereas the synthetic crap is legal yet deadly.

Kinda like alcohol is lol.

Love when these threads bring out the ignorant folk. I tried the k2 last year. Never ever again. I had literally hundreds of different thoughts every second. Outside of my body experience. Flushed all of it down the drain immediately. It had a f'ving wizard on it that said not for human consumption. Lesson learned.

Disclaimer: I'm 100% for the decriminalization of mj. Regulate it and make some money. Not sure how well Washington and Colorado will do but I hope its a step in the right direction.

LOL @ the people acting like alcohol doesn't destroy millions of peoples lives every day yet its perfectly fine because of the general accept ion society outs on it. Get fucked.

I tried K2 once, I kinda liked it and kinda didn't. Weed usually makes me sleepy, and K2 did not. However K2 left me with a headache afterward. So yeah I quit using that stuff.

I only smoke weed once it a great while anyway.