Dont smoke weird marijuana.

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Murloc

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maybe if she just said no to drugs she would be fine now.

but some people don't want to hear that.
moonshine laced with methanol can leave you blind or dead too but no one thinks alcohol should be banned.
Also no need to go for moonshine: they found it in famous wine batches once.
 
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Arglebargle

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Good stuff = stuff that requires a huge amount to die from.
Examples: weed, mushrooms, etc.

Bad stuff = stuff that you can die from given just a small amount to cause an overdose.
Examples: Coke (heart attack), Heroin (easy to OD and die), etc.

The 'bad stuff' examples are outliers. If cocaine caused tons of heart attacks, Hollywood would be deserted. It actually takes a relatively long time to die from a heroin overdose. Most of the 'hit up and die' examples are caused by the stuff used to cut the heroin, just another example of the illegality of it all increasing the deadliness. There might be other reasons to be strict, but that one is not quite all there.
 

Steeplerot

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If you are buying weed and it's:
A: Not even a plant??
B Has a sketchy label that is peeled off and says "carburetor cleaner" -and you STILL smoke it...you smoke too much..morons.
 
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Juddog

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The 'bad stuff' examples are outliers. If cocaine caused tons of heart attacks, Hollywood would be deserted. It actually takes a relatively long time to die from a heroin overdose. Most of the 'hit up and die' examples are caused by the stuff used to cut the heroin, just another example of the illegality of it all increasing the deadliness. There might be other reasons to be strict, but that one is not quite all there.

I've personally known 2 people that died of heroin OD's. It's not that hard to overdose on, and a dose that's good for one person can be fatal to another. I'm not trolling and am dead serious; going to funerals isn't fun and neither is losing people when they're still in their late teens / early 20's. It needs to stay a controlled substance no matter what. I've also personally known people that had their lives cut short by cocaine use.

On the other hand, I've never heard or known anybody that has died from weed.
 
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dank69

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I've personally known 2 people that died of heroin OD's. It's not that hard to overdose on, and a dose that's good for one person can be fatal to another. I'm not trolling and am dead serious; going to funerals isn't fun and neither is losing people when they're still in their late teens / early 20's. It needs to stay a controlled substance no matter what. I've also personally known people that had their lives cut short by cocaine use.

On the other hand, I've never heard or known anybody that has died from weed.
People that OD on heroin typically do so when they don't know what they have. It doesn't need to be a "controlled" substance, it needs to be a regulated substance.
 

crownjules

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This is a false proposition. She had access to pot and smoked it regularly by news reports.

Only some of these salts are "fake pot." They are a different class of drugs and you are deluding yourself if you think people would not smoke them if pot were available. That is like saying you wouldn't smoke pot if alcohol was available, or you wouldn't do shrooms if pot was available.

Stop being so dense. Pot supplies wax and wane throughout the year depending on harvests. Drug busts can also disrupt supply lines. When I smoked regularly in college, there were a couple times a year where we couldn't get weed for a month or so. And on top of it all, if you can't see why people wouldn't be curious about "legal pot" that I don't know what to say. They wouldn't have to be curious about it in the first place if the real, relatively harmelss and natural stuff was legal to start.
 

zanejohnson

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before this thread goes any farther..

people need to know

THIS WAS NOT MARIJAUNA SHE WAS SMOKING.. IT IS SPICE/K2... IT IS NOT THE SAME.
 

Juddog

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before this thread goes any farther..

people need to know

THIS WAS NOT MARIJAUNA SHE WAS SMOKING.. IT IS SPICE/K2... IT IS NOT THE SAME.

Everybody knows that already; the argument was that if MJ was legal, then she wouldn't have had to resort to some untested chemical shit that has no history / study done on it.
 

zanejohnson

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Everybody knows that already; the argument was that if MJ was legal, then she wouldn't have had to resort to some untested chemical shit that has no history / study done on it.

oh and i totally agree.
 

zanejohnson

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People that OD on heroin typically do so when they don't know what they have. It doesn't need to be a "controlled" substance, it needs to be a regulated substance.

heroin od's are pretty common, when i was into that i landed myself in the hospital twice... it was all about the potency of the gear that was around... sometimes you'd get some weak stuff, sometimes you get some literally, "killer" stuff...

for clarification, i oded once on fentanyl, and once on actual heroin..
 

Pray To Jesus

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Everybody knows that already; the argument was that if MJ was legal, then she wouldn't have had to resort to some untested chemical shit that has no history / study done on it.

don't worry about explaining it zj is being a bit confused today
 

Pray To Jesus

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heroin od's are pretty common, when i was into that i landed myself in the hospital twice... it was all about the potency of the gear that was around... sometimes you'd get some weak stuff, sometimes you get some literally, "killer" stuff...

for clarification, i oded once on fentanyl, and once on actual heroin..

yea we know

ODs are mainly caused by lack of standarization or combining substances

you do this shit and yet are afraid of guns WTF?
 

zanejohnson

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yea we know

ODs are mainly caused by lack of standarization or combining substances

you do this shit and yet are afraid of guns WTF?

yep...

in fact when i was into that stuff, i would prefer to get oxycontin 80's, for that very reason, alot of times the quality of the opiate was better than the diamorph on the street, and it was always a for sure dosage, i could split 1 pill out into two dosages in a day, and my keep my tolerance under control that way/ and not accidently od..

yeah im just anti guns... never cared for em...just killing machines if you ask me..
 

Pray To Jesus

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yep...

in fact when i was into that stuff, i would prefer to get oxycontin 80's, for that very reason, alot of times the quality of the opiate was better than the diamorph on the street, and it was always a for sure dosage, i could split 1 pill out into two dosages in a day, and my keep my tolerance under control that way/ and not accidently od..

yeah im just anti guns... never cared for em...just killing machines if you ask me..

It's fine to have an opinion. Just try to understand the other side's viewpoint also. Then you can choose after knowing. Don't make choices only because of emotions and general popular feelings. That always lead down the wrong road.
 

Pray To Jesus

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Yea I was there when you were really addicted and was getting arrested doing dumb shit. I'm really happy that you didn't die. Keep up the good work. It was wonderful that you were able able to kick and control the habit when many others really cannot. Never good to be addicted to anything other than God.
 
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zanejohnson

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Yea I was there when you were really addicted and was getting arrested doing dumb shit. I'm really happy for you to be able to kick that shit. Never good to be addicted to anything other than God.

thank you

yeah we've been here forever, super OG's
 

zanejohnson

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It's fine to have an opinion. Just try to understand the other side's viewpoint also. Then you can choose after knowing. Don't make choices only because of emotions and general popular feelings. That always lead down the wrong road.

heh yeah i do tend to get a little too opinionated on here sometimes... it's usually just me blowing off steam and spewing irrational noise because i have a pretty twisted sense of humour.. it's good and bad..
 

Ausm

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People that OD on heroin typically do so when they don't know what they have. It doesn't need to be a "controlled" substance, it needs to be a regulated substance.

My guess is if Natural weed was regulated and sin taxed, we could pay off the National debt in a couple of years.
 

Smoblikat

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maybe if she just said no to drugs she would be fine now.

but some people don't want to hear that.

Because thats not the answer, people can do whatever they want to their bodies. If this girl had real marijuana nothing bad would have happened to her.
 
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