Don't Talk to the Police

[88keys]

Long video, but this guy gives excellent advice as to why you shouldn't talk to the police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

 

[klinc]

Police are there to protect the states interest or whoever is in control of them. That is why in certain situations they would send cops to protect something with a shoot to kill policy.

 

[UberNeuman]

I don't have to watch the video. Unless you're a total moron - you never talk to the police - until you have someone there to have your back.

 

[TheVrolok]

Old old old video, but worth watching.

 

[Doppel]

Can't see vid yet but agree do not ever tell them a damn thing. If ever arrested for anything the cop is not a judge and cannot set you free, only collect damning evidence.

 

[3chordcharlie]

I don't have to watch the video. Unless you're a total moron - you never talk to the police - until you have someone there to have your back.

Most of the police I know will tell you this straight up: Don't say anything. Ever.

If you're driving you have to provide licence and insurance information. In most jurisdictions you cannot refuse a breath sample. That's all.

Do not offer explanations (BTW, these are called 'confessions'). And never consent to a voluntary search.

If it gets that far, you need a lawyer (one that YOU are paying). Listen to your lawyer and do what they say.

It's not about you being a jerk, or making the police's job difficult, or anything personal. It's really quite simple: Nothing you say can help you, but it will be used without hesitation to hurt you.

Fortunately, I've never had to 'practice' any of this advice.

 

[gevorg]

Its not black and white, there are times when you can talk to the police to smooth things out, get forgiven/reduced ticket, etc. It really depends on the situation. If you're in doubt, sure, don't talk. The better advice would be: "unless you know what to say, STFU".

 

[Zorba]

Beyond not talking to them, Never Ever open a door for them unless they have a warrant. They will find a way to let themselves in.

 

[waggy]

Beyond not talking to them, Never Ever open a door for them unless they have a warrant. They will find a way to let themselves in.

open the door. walk out and close it behind you.

 

[OutHouse]

Been posted a few times, good refresher

 

[Svnla]

Most of the police I know will tell you this straight up: Don't say anything. Ever.

If you're driving you have to provide licence and insurance information. In most jurisdictions you cannot refuse a breath sample. That's all.

Do not offer explanations (BTW, these are called 'confessions'). And never consent to a voluntary search.

If it gets that far, you need a lawyer (one that YOU are paying). Listen to your lawyer and do what they say.

It's not about you being a jerk, or making the police's job difficult, or anything personal. It's really quite simple: Nothing you say can help you, but it will be used without hesitation to hurt you.

Fortunately, I've never had to 'practice' any of this advice.

This.

I also want to add a few things.

Keep your hands in the clear and out of your pockets at all time, do not make any sudden moves, no smart ass/rude comments, no friendly chit chat ie. keep your mouth shut, say/do nothing else at all (DO NOT keep it real) except provide ID (no exception), and proof of insurance, registration (if you are driving).

I had been stopped a few times and by using those tactics, no trip to jail for me.

 

[3chordcharlie]

This.

I also want to add a few things.

Keep your hands in the clear and out of your pockets at all time, do not make any sudden moves, no smart ass/rude comments, no friendly chit chat ie. keep your mouth shut, say/do nothing else at all (DO NOT keep it real) except provide ID (no exception), and proof of insurance, registration (if you are driving).

I had been stopped a few times and by using those tactics, no trip to jail for me.

One more thing - if you are pulled over in a random DUI check, they will ask if you have had anything to drink. Politely say no. You are not under oath.

*If* they can smell alcohol (I've had this, with a very drunk passenger) they will make you blow anyway, which should be just fine because you aren't drunk, right?

If you say yes, that's probable cause (even if you say 'I had one drink with dinner 4 hours ago'). Remember the bit about 'confessions'? You just confessed to drinking, and you are clearly driving. You will now have the opportunity to blow. The machines are quite reliable in terms of false positives, but why subject yourself to this procedure voluntarily? I have made this mistake once, on a very cold night. It took 20 minutes, I was very cold and uncomfortable, and in the end I blew 0.000.

This is in no way intended to help drunk drivers 'get away with it' and if you *are* drunk, they are going to notice, so it won't help anyway.

 

[shortylickens]

Yeah I know, i saw that 5 YEARS AGO when it was posted.

 

[Dari]

Police are there to close cases, not solve crimes. Sometimes the two mesh, sometimes they don't. This is a job, you know, not a movie. It can get tiring.

 

[FaaR]

People in this thread sure are extremely cynical, aren't you.

Yet, in a world without cops, what would you expect things to look like? I can tell you, it'd either be Nazi Germany where a SS or SA-type organization would fill the void (clearly not preferable I'm sure most agree), or it'd be Mad Max, post-apocalyptic fight-to-survive. Clearly not preferable either I'm sure all agree. Except maybe the paranoidly psychotic.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Police are there to close cases, not solve crimes. Sometimes the two mesh, sometimes they don't. This is a job, you know, not a movie. It can get tiring.

In the *REAL* world, police are there to find, or create a crime. With thousands of laws on the books, this is rather easy to do. They then must, augment, embellish, add more crimes, to make the case.

 

[Raizinman]

Police get 'brownie points' from their commander for more 'collars' than normal. They will do anything to get one more arrest.
1) Do not give them any oppoortunity
2) Do not consent to a search. You don't know if the prior owner of your car or your son left a joint under the seat.
3) Lawyer up - meaning - say nothing until your lawyer has arrived
4) Offer no explanations for anything.
The only time I would call the police is if I found a dead body in my front yard (too heavy to move to my neighbors yard)!

 

[Doppel]

People in this thread sure are extremely cynical, aren't you.

Yet, in a world without cops, what would you expect things to look like? I can tell you, it'd either be Nazi Germany where a SS or SA-type organization would fill the void (clearly not preferable I'm sure most agree), or it'd be Mad Max, post-apocalyptic fight-to-survive. Clearly not preferable either I'm sure all agree. Except maybe the paranoidly psychotic.

We have a world with cops and are discussing how to deal when/if stopped by one. Nobody has said we shouldn't have them.

 

[Sonikku]

http://www.kirkpiccione.com/10-reasons-not-talk-police/

 

[Dissipate]

Most of the police I know will tell you this straight up: Don't say anything. Ever.

If you're driving you have to provide licence and insurance information. In most jurisdictions you cannot refuse a breath sample. That's all.

Do not offer explanations (BTW, these are called 'confessions'). And never consent to a voluntary search.

If it gets that far, you need a lawyer (one that YOU are paying). Listen to your lawyer and do what they say.

It's not about you being a jerk, or making the police's job difficult, or anything personal. It's really quite simple: Nothing you say can help you, but it will be used without hesitation to hurt you.

Fortunately, I've never had to 'practice' any of this advice.

If you don't consent to a voluntary search, they will probably bring in a K9 unit and have a dog sniff your car. Then, they pretend the dog made a signal indicating something is inside, giving them probable cause to do the search anyways.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

My mom became a judge when I was 13 and always told me never to talk to the police. This came in handy once or twice, long before I became a lawyer . . .

 

[Pohemi]

If you don't consent to a voluntary search, they will probably bring in a K9 unit and have a dog sniff your car. Then, they pretend the dog made a signal indicating something is inside, giving them probable cause to do the search anyways.

Let them. Make them take the time to bring the dog to the scene if they feel it's necessary. There's no reason to make it easier for them. It's their decision to take those extra steps if they really want to be hard-asses about it.

 

[Druidx]

I liked the part from the cop who would trick people by turning off his personal tape recorder to go "off the record" when the interveiw room was wired for sound.

 

[3chordcharlie]

If you don't consent to a voluntary search, they will probably bring in a K9 unit and have a dog sniff your car. Then, they pretend the dog made a signal indicating something is inside, giving them probable cause to do the search anyways.

This is not actually that likely.

You have, once again, nothing to gain from consenting to a search.

 

[Dissipate]

This is not actually that likely.

You have, once again, nothing to gain from consenting to a search.

I agree, just explaining the cops have ways around that (if they really want to search your car), the dog sniffing thing being one of them.