You idiot, get a clue. I agree the police are out of control in this country. They're a bunch of hopped up roid freaks with military equipment.
And yet I still say that someone waving a gun around in a public place is fair game, 12 years old or not.
Get a fucking clue. But I'm sure you won't bother to understand a goddam word I just fucking said, because you're too busy hurfing and blurfing over the fact that HOW DARE THEY SHOOT A 12 YEAR OLD KID!
You're a hysterical nut.
Do you bother to read any of what you post?
Ok, you like authority figures in uniforms. Just hope one of them never decides they don't like your face or you voice or the fact the sun came up that day.
Do you?
Here you illiterate buffoon, I'll post a quote from you:
Where in this thread did I say I like authority figures in uniforms? You're sprouting strawmen from every orifice.
Do a search on this forum for my username and the word "pigs", you'll see exactly what I think about cops.
I fully admit that there are a lot of cops who should be stripped of their badges if not in prison. I've said just as much in many threads in this very forum.
But you're so full of blind, idiotic, liberal rage that the fact that I think shooting a 12 year old who's waving a realistic looking gun around is an unfortunate event rather than the full blown assault society that you believe it to be says that I "like authority figures in uniforms".
You should take your own advice and read your own posts you pathetic jackass.
Fixed for reality:
Stop any dude in a suit and a Range Rover with valid registration and no priors when you run the registered owner from the plate, you think "professional, money".
Stop any dude in a flat brimmed hat, football jersey, pants halfway down to knees, expired tags and rap sheet in a Range Rover on chrome 26s, it's either Kevin Federline or you think "drug money, potential weapons in the car".
Meh. My wife was stopped on a lonely country road to ask if she had stopped at a stop sign a mile back, then forced to do a field sobriety test even though she had had absolutely nothing to drink and was on no medications. Cops get bored.I've seen plenty of black guys in suits (one in a bowtie!) get pulled out of a nice car because "the presence of alcohol was detected." Put 'em through the tests, see if they'll talk themselves into trouble. If you could put together statistics of how frequently black people are asked for permission to search the vehicle versus white people it would be absolutely staggering. It would blow away the violence\imprisonment statistics. Because the general idea is that, yeah, maybe you're an upstanding, tax-paying, successful black guy... but I bet you've got weed.
Do you not even know any cops?
New York City did the same before Giuliani. Too many felonies? Just change grand theft auto to a paperwork issue. We even saw the same with Trayvon Martin, where the school system police just lost cases to keep the official crime rate within acceptable limits.The primary problem in Chicago with the police, which wasn't even addressed in the article, is the mob run police union squatting there is probably the most corrupt in the entire country. Just look at Chicago's seemingly endless ties to organized crime which have been well documented throughout the history of the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_organized_crime_in_Chicago
So it really comes as no surprise to me at all, when you see a post like the one the OP posted.
Then there is this nugget to consider:
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/
So, Chicago is now miraculously a much safer city, since the corrupt PD there willfully screws the rising crime rates into the ground by deliberately misreporting and miscategorizing the crimes. I don't know about you, but it's so refreshing to know the mob is still running the city into the ground, and is dictating all facets of city government and even PD policy, as part of their failing attempts to lure back all that illicit lost crime revenue. Simply because the hard core crime bosses and their petty turf wars ran off all the people who could afford to escape their tyranny in the first place. Because who in their right mind would want to live there under utterly corrupt conditions?
Unfortunately, some crime riddled cities like Chicago just need to wither up and die already from all the endemic institutional corruption and fiscal mismanagement. And while the city continues it's steady decline, those same corrupt city officials, judges, lawyers and cops will finally all move away one day for greener pastures, and simply carry their corruption elsewhere. Like for instance, to Capitol Hill.
Oh, snap!
Meh. My wife was stopped on a lonely country road to ask if she had stopped at a stop sign a mile back, then forced to do a field sobriety test even though she had had absolutely nothing to drink and was on no medications. Cops get bored.
Do you?
Here you illiterate buffoon, I'll post a quote from you:
Where in this thread did I say I like authority figures in uniforms? You're sprouting strawmen from every orifice.
Do a search on this forum for my username and the word "pigs", you'll see exactly what I think about cops.
I fully admit that there are a lot of cops who should be stripped of their badges if not in prison. I've said just as much in many threads in this very forum.
But you're so full of blind, idiotic, liberal rage that the fact that I think shooting a 12 year old who's waving a realistic looking gun around is an unfortunate event rather than the full blown assault society that you believe it to be says that I "like authority figures in uniforms".
You should take your own advice and read your own posts you pathetic jackass.
I'm glad that someone understands that it's just boredom and not racism.
Do you not even know any cops?
So, racism plays no role in modern American policing? Good to know.
I've seen plenty of black guys in suits (one in a bowtie!) get pulled out of a nice car because "the presence of alcohol was detected." Put 'em through the tests, see if they'll talk themselves into trouble. If you could put together statistics of how frequently black people are asked for permission to search the vehicle versus white people it would be absolutely staggering. It would blow away the violence\imprisonment statistics. Because the general idea is that, yeah, maybe you're an upstanding, tax-paying, successful black guy... but I bet you've got weed.
Do you not even know any cops?
I'm glad that someone understands that it's just boredom and not racism.
Eh I got pulled over for "waving in the lane when i was taking sip of my coffee" earlier this year; clearly BS premise and it looked like a Sergeant was showing a rookie how to do a traffic stop. They asked for the usual stuff, how I liked my car and BS'd about our cat that was in the car. The cop is likely racist, either against white eastern europeans in german cars or cats. Possibly both.
Why would that be a general idea? I would bet stoner looking white kids with dreadlocks get their stuff searched for more often than a black dude in a suit and new car. Cops are rational people and will act on clues - having a rap sheet for narco possession makes you more likely to have contraband on you. Same thing if you look like you just came from the Greatful Dead concert.
Like this guy?
"On a hot summer afternoon in August 1998, 37-year-old U.S. Army Sergeant First Class Rossano V. Gerald and his young son Gregory drove across the Oklahoma border into a nightmare. A career soldier and a highly decorated veteran of Desert Storm and Operation United Shield in Somalia, SFC Gerald, a black man of Panamanian descent, found that he could not travel more than 30 minutes through the state without being stopped twice: first by the Roland City Police Department, and then by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.
During the second stop, which lasted two-and-half hours, the troopers terrorized SFC Gerald's 12-year-old son with a police dog, placed both father and son in a closed car with the air conditioning off and fans blowing hot air, and warned that the dog would attack if they attempted to escape. Halfway through the episode – perhaps realizing the extent of their lawlessness – the troopers shut off the patrol car's video evidence camera.
Perhaps, too, the officers understood the power of an image to stir people to action. SFC Gerald was only an infant in 1963 when a stunned nation watched on television as Birmingham Police Commissioner "Bull" Connor used powerful fire hoses and vicious police attack dogs against nonviolent black civil rights protesters. That incident, and Martin Luther King, Jr.'s stirring I Have a Dream speech at the historic march on Washington in August of that year, were the low and high points, respectively, of the great era of civil rights legislation: the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
How did it come to be, then, that 35 years later SFC Gerald found himself standing on the side of a dusty road next to a barking police dog, listening to his son weep while officers rummaged through his belongings simply because he was black?"
https://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/driving-while-black-racial-profiling-our-nations-highways
And it's not gotten better in the years since this particular example.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/9/9/racial-profilingnorthcarolina.html
means you'll be sitting around for hours, waiting for a K9 unit to sniff the car and likely getting your shit searched anyway.Trooper Perry informed me that he had just made a drug bust and asked to search my car, and I said no.
It realistic to think that the odds are quite slim that you will have any negative interaction with the police. I'm 56 and I've had at least a dozen interactions with the police in the US (8 states), two in Canada, and one in Venezuela, none were negative or abusive in nature.
By far and away, most cop - people encounters, are, easy, no brainer.
Criminal, cop encounters, not so much.
-John
I think i may literally hate all celebrities.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-atlanta-police-department-article-1.1057056
nope, no profiling here.
Eh I got pulled over for "waving in the lane when i was taking sip of my coffee" earlier this year; clearly BS premise and it looked like a Sergeant was showing a rookie how to do a traffic stop. They asked for the usual stuff, how I liked my car and BS'd about our cat that was in the car. The cop is likely racist, either against white eastern europeans in german cars or cats. Possibly both.
Why would that be a general idea? I would bet stoner looking white kids with dreadlocks get their stuff searched for more often than a black dude in a suit and new car. Cops are rational people and will act on clues - having a rap sheet for narco possession makes you more likely to have contraband on you. Same thing if you look like you just came from the Greatful Dead concert.
Yep, and sometimes they get good busts that way. (Or maybe that was why he pulled her over. lol) Point is, if she was black and so inclined, she'd have been convinced it was racial profiling since she was doing nothing wrong.I'm glad that someone understands that it's just boredom and not racism.
Well said, sir.It does.
But people keep jumping to conclusions when they are angry about racism and they label cops and suspects unfairly.
Ditto men and rape.
Neither group has been getting proper justice lately and its kinda irritating. The whole concept of Innocent Until Proven Guilty applies to everyone, not just some.
Um, I'm calling shenanigans. I've been to Oklahoma and there are plenty of black folks. Obviously there's something else going on here. Doesn't mean the good sarge was doing anything wrong, but clearly there was something that made the cops suspect he was doing something wrong, some pattern beyond "oh lawdy lawdy, there's a colored fella, let's git him 'fore our last toofiess fall out."Like this guy?
"On a hot summer afternoon in August 1998, 37-year-old U.S. Army Sergeant First Class Rossano V. Gerald and his young son Gregory drove across the Oklahoma border into a nightmare. A career soldier and a highly decorated veteran of Desert Storm and Operation United Shield in Somalia, SFC Gerald, a black man of Panamanian descent, found that he could not travel more than 30 minutes through the state without being stopped twice: first by the Roland City Police Department, and then by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.
During the second stop, which lasted two-and-half hours, the troopers terrorized SFC Gerald's 12-year-old son with a police dog, placed both father and son in a closed car with the air conditioning off and fans blowing hot air, and warned that the dog would attack if they attempted to escape. Halfway through the episode – perhaps realizing the extent of their lawlessness – the troopers shut off the patrol car's video evidence camera.
Perhaps, too, the officers understood the power of an image to stir people to action. SFC Gerald was only an infant in 1963 when a stunned nation watched on television as Birmingham Police Commissioner "Bull" Connor used powerful fire hoses and vicious police attack dogs against nonviolent black civil rights protesters. That incident, and Martin Luther King, Jr.'s stirring I Have a Dream speech at the historic march on Washington in August of that year, were the low and high points, respectively, of the great era of civil rights legislation: the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
How did it come to be, then, that 35 years later SFC Gerald found himself standing on the side of a dusty road next to a barking police dog, listening to his son weep while officers rummaged through his belongings simply because he was black?"
https://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/driving-while-black-racial-profiling-our-nations-highways
And it's not gotten better in the years since this particular example.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/9/9/racial-profilingnorthcarolina.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-atlanta-police-department-article-1.1057056
nope, no profiling here.
From the link:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-atlanta-police-department-article-1.1057056
nope, no profiling here.
Guess they aren't special enough.From the link:Tyler Perry's accusation that two cops who pulled him over targeted him because he is black has reportedly sparked an investigation into the Atlanta Police Department.It's not legal to turn left across lanes for a very good reason. If you're going to argue that not granting you special dispensation is racist because you're important, you'd best be a lot more important than is Tyler Perry.
Perry posted about the incident Sunday on Facebook, explaining how he was stopped after making a left turn from a far-right lane a ruse security taught him to make sure hes not being followed.
This is like Oprah's "crash moment" where she experienced the horrible racism of not having a closed store open up for her. Sometimes even the rich and famous get a little taste of reality. Predictably, they do not care for it.