Don't you hate it when a mechanical engineer tells you that computer programming is NOT engineering?

[her209]

And then he turns around and continues to work on his CAD model. :roll:

 

[OdiN]

Well...it's not.

 

[Alkesh]

my roomate is a mech engineer. He's a cocky SOB who thinks he's the sh!t. He hates on social science majors because we have so much free time. I could have been an engineer if i wanted to, but i enjoy going out and having fun. he would always ask me to stay inside and drink with him at the apartment. This semester no go.

 

[Heisenberg]

Sorry, but it's not.

 

[shortylickens]

The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Alkesh
my roomate is a mech engineer. He's a cocky SOB who thinks he's the sh!t. He hates on social science majors because we have so much free time. I could have been an engineer if i wanted to, but i enjoy going out and having fun. he would always ask me to stay inside and drink with him at the apartment. This semester no go.

unsubscribe me

 

[gopunk]

i don't mind it... computers are more fun and make just as much money, so why would i care what some ME thinks

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

:thumbsup:

I'm a "software engineer" but I don't consider myself an engineer by any means.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sorry, but it's not.

yep. engineers use the tools to build stuff.

It's like saying the guy manufacturing the tool is an engineer.

 

[A5]

I hate it when people think Computer Engineers are the same as programmers or software engineers...

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if a "web developer" approached me and said I can make you a web page (using FrontPage/Dreamweaver/etc.) but couldn't write an functional HTML page by hand, I'd laugh in his face too.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if a "web developer" approached me and said I can make you a web page (using FrontPage/Dreamweaver/etc.) but couldn't write an functional HTML page by hand, I'd laugh in his face too.

An engineer doesn't need to know how to build the tools, only use them.

Reference chimps making tools out of wood - they don't know how to use them. They just make them. The engineer chimp picks up said tool, gathers food with it and everybody happy.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: spidey07
An engineer doesn't need to know how to build the tools, only use them.

Reference chimps making tools out of wood - they don't know how to use them. They just make them. The engineer chimp picks up said tool, gathers food with it and everybody happy.

He's not saying a web developer has to be able to build his tool (Dreamweaver), he's saying he should be capable of doing it without it. And he's saying a mechanical engineer should be able to design whatever he's designing without a CAD program.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if a "web developer" approached me and said I can make you a web page (using FrontPage/Dreamweaver/etc.) but couldn't write an functional HTML page by hand, I'd laugh in his face too.

wow, just, wow...

so an engineer is supposed to, uh, do what then? I mean, let's say a mechanical engineer is trying to make an engine. It's a common task. That engine requires a staff of two dozen once everything is said and done.

How would they do that without cad tools, again?

 

[MasterAndCommander]

It's not.

...has degrees in both Mech Engineering and Computer Sci

 

[Tu13erhead]

Originally posted by: A5
I hate it when people think Computer Engineers are the same as programmers or software engineers...

Me too...:|

 

[bharok]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

:thumbsup:

I'm a "software engineer" but I don't consider myself an engineer by any means.

:thumbsup:

 

[bharok]

poll!

 

[Kermy]

I'm undecided. I'm a manufacturing engineer but I can see both povs on why comp sci is/isn't engineering. I mean comp sci majors don't even have to take statics here for christ sakes!

 

[jinduy]

Originally posted by: bharok

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

:thumbsup:

I'm a "software engineer" but I don't consider myself an engineer by any means.

:thumbsup:

why's it called software engineer then?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if a "web developer" approached me and said I can make you a web page (using FrontPage/Dreamweaver/etc.) but couldn't write an functional HTML page by hand, I'd laugh in his face too.

wow, just, wow...

so an engineer is supposed to, uh, do what then? I mean, let's say a mechanical engineer is trying to make an engine. It's a common task. That engine requires a staff of two dozen once everything is said and done.

How would they do that without cad tools, again?

How did they do it before they had computers?

 

[RedCOMET]

Originally posted by: Tu13erhead

Originally posted by: A5
I hate it when people think Computer Engineers are the same as programmers or software engineers...

Me too...:|

As somebody studying Computer Engineering, Undergrad, we could basically go crazy with the CS classes and it would count towards our CoE degree. SOme people balance CS classes with the hardcore CoE classes, whether they are design labs or lectures. SOme people go crazy with the CS classes while other CoEs take the bare minimum CS classes and focus on the Computer hardware side of it.

SO, you could have a Computer Engineer who could program just as well as a Comp Sci person, but could do more. especially when it comes to interfacing the software with hardware.

 

[alphatarget1]

Computer science is not engineering in a traditional sense.

Stuff you do as a licensed professional engineer carry a lot of liability (human life, for instance). I don't see a programmer dude's failure will lead to fatalities.

 

[Baked]

As much an engineer as a guy w/ MSCE.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: jinduy

Originally posted by: bharok

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The software is a tool for him to do real engineering.
Engineers have many tools.
Micrometers for example.

:thumbsup:

I'm a "software engineer" but I don't consider myself an engineer by any means.

:thumbsup:

why's it called software engineer then?

same reason a janitor is called a "sanitation engineer"