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djheater

Lifer
Mar 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
Originally posted by: jagec
lobotomy, people.
Moniz won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 1949 for this work....In 1950 lobotomy was banned in the Soviet Union.
Interesting politics there. Must be one of the few times the USSR was ahead of the West on human rights/patient protection.

Freeman advocated this procedure for patients with even fairly mild symptoms. He personally performed the operation on thousands of people and promoted the idea of lobotomy as a casual procedure, claiming it would one day be as common as dental work....
A trained doctor thought that destroying healthy brain tissue for no reason was a good idea? Scary.

If you want to see something freaky, look up the Soviet research into animated severed dog heads.

link?
 

MrPickins

Diamond Member
May 24, 2003
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I helped wire a new cat5 network for a psychiatric hospital near Tyler, TX about 10 years ago. This wasn't your average loony bin, though. It was one of the hospitals that housed the so called "criminally insane." It was, shall we say, interesting. One story sticks out:

When we were working in the geriatric ward, this old woman would wander around drooling and mumbling, and would often go up to a random person and lift her shirt up to give them a peek. She flashed my boss within 5 minutes of us showing up that morning, and in the next two days that we were on that floor, everyone else got flashed. Except me. Until, we were about an hour from being done, and I walked out of a room and into the hall right as she was coming into the room, and almost bumped into her. I knew what was coming next, but I still couldn't turn away fast enough not to glimpse her old saggies. Then I caught a whiff of something funny, and realized she had also recently wet herself. And of course, she was between me and the exit. One of the orderlies saw the whole thing and had a good laugh at the look on my face.

I wrote it off as just a random crazy person (we were surrounded by them). But, a few days later, I was talking to one of the hospital clerical workers and for some reason related the story. She knew immediately who I was talking about. The woman's story wasn't much different from that of Rosie Kennedy.

As it turns out, she was born into a well-off family in the 20's. She was dating several gentlemen, and times being what they were, her father felt her promiscuity shamed their family. So, they had her lobotomized to help control her, but instead it destroyed her mind. They moved her to the hospital, where she has resided since.

I'm still so horrified about the story that I don't know how to comment on it.

 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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I'm going to visit the exhibit with the lobotomy at the museum at harvard medical school - should be interesting - not far from me. Any Bostoners wanna go?
 

KMurphy

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May 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
I helped wire a new cat5 network for a psychiatric hospital near Tyler, TX about 10 years ago. This wasn't your average loony bin, though. It was one of the hospitals that housed the so called "criminally insane." It was, shall we say, interesting. One story sticks out:

When we were working in the geriatric ward, this old woman would wander around drooling and mumbling, and would often go up to a random person and lift her shirt up to give them a peek. She flashed my boss within 5 minutes of us showing up that morning, and in the next two days that we were on that floor, everyone else got flashed. Except me. Until, we were about an hour from being done, and I walked out of a room and into the hall right as she was coming into the room, and almost bumped into her. I knew what was coming next, but I still couldn't turn away fast enough not to glimpse her old saggies. Then I caught a whiff of something funny, and realized she had also recently wet herself. And of course, she was between me and the exit. One of the orderlies saw the whole thing and had a good laugh at the look on my face.

I wrote it off as just a random crazy person (we were surrounded by them). But, a few days later, I was talking to one of the hospital clerical workers and for some reason related the story. She knew immediately who I was talking about. The woman's story wasn't much different from that of Rosie Kennedy.

As it turns out, she was born into a well-off family in the 20's. She was dating several gentlemen, and times being what they were, her father felt her promiscuity shamed their family. So, they had her lobotomized to help control her, but instead it destroyed her mind. They moved her to the hospital, where she has resided since.

I'm still so horrified about the story that I don't know how to comment on it.


Rusk?
I used to drive through there on my way to Dallas. I have heard that one or more of the guys from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre were locked up there. Don't know if it's true. That place gives me the creeps just driving by.

 

RapidSnail

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Apr 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labotomy
I have heard the word before and what not, but never knew what it was. Actually I thought it was the doctor taking your blood. (phlebotomist)
HEH.
Freaky shit, wonder if today's medical procedures will be looked upon like that.
Your nuts

I...MUST...have...them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:shocked:
 

Oceandevi

Diamond Member
Jan 20, 2006
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The fact that weird/sick/crazy people used to be treated this way just bothers me.
 

montypythizzle

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Nov 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
I helped wire a new cat5 network for a psychiatric hospital near Tyler, TX about 10 years ago. This wasn't your average loony bin, though. It was one of the hospitals that housed the so called "criminally insane." It was, shall we say, interesting. One story sticks out:

When we were working in the geriatric ward, this old woman would wander around drooling and mumbling, and would often go up to a random person and lift her shirt up to give them a peek. She flashed my boss within 5 minutes of us showing up that morning, and in the next two days that we were on that floor, everyone else got flashed. Except me. Until, we were about an hour from being done, and I walked out of a room and into the hall right as she was coming into the room, and almost bumped into her. I knew what was coming next, but I still couldn't turn away fast enough not to glimpse her old saggies. Then I caught a whiff of something funny, and realized she had also recently wet herself. And of course, she was between me and the exit. One of the orderlies saw the whole thing and had a good laugh at the look on my face.

I wrote it off as just a random crazy person (we were surrounded by them). But, a few days later, I was talking to one of the hospital clerical workers and for some reason related the story. She knew immediately who I was talking about. The woman's story wasn't much different from that of Rosie Kennedy.

As it turns out, she was born into a well-off family in the 20's. She was dating several gentlemen, and times being what they were, her father felt her promiscuity shamed their family. So, they had her lobotomized to help control her, but instead it destroyed her mind. They moved her to the hospital, where she has resided since.

I'm still so horrified about the story that I don't know how to comment on it.


Your post is worthless without pics ya know.
HAH.
 

jw0ollard

Senior member
Jul 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: dainthomas
They used to do all kinds of freaky stuff to "cure" people. Insulin shock therapy, electroshock, lobotomies etc.

They still do electroshock.

Really?

[NOTE TO SELF]
Don't become severely psychotic.
[/END NOTE]

Yes. Really. They renamed it to "Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT)" though.

My crazy aunt has had it done twice. It actually helped... the 1st time. :Q

She forgot a lot of things though, but amnesia is common after treatment.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I helped wire a new cat5 network for a psychiatric hospital near Tyler, TX about 10 years ago. This wasn't your average loony bin, though. It was one of the hospitals that housed the so called "criminally insane." It was, shall we say, interesting. One story sticks out:

When we were working in the geriatric ward, this old woman would wander around drooling and mumbling, and would often go up to a random person and lift her shirt up to give them a peek. She flashed my boss within 5 minutes of us showing up that morning, and in the next two days that we were on that floor, everyone else got flashed. Except me. Until, we were about an hour from being done, and I walked out of a room and into the hall right as she was coming into the room, and almost bumped into her. I knew what was coming next, but I still couldn't turn away fast enough not to glimpse her old saggies. Then I caught a whiff of something funny, and realized she had also recently wet herself. And of course, she was between me and the exit. One of the orderlies saw the whole thing and had a good laugh at the look on my face.

I wrote it off as just a random crazy person (we were surrounded by them). But, a few days later, I was talking to one of the hospital clerical workers and for some reason related the story. She knew immediately who I was talking about. The woman's story wasn't much different from that of Rosie Kennedy.

As it turns out, she was born into a well-off family in the 20's. She was dating several gentlemen, and times being what they were, her father felt her promiscuity shamed their family. So, they had her lobotomized to help control her, but instead it destroyed her mind. They moved her to the hospital, where she has resided since.

I'm still so horrified about the story that I don't know how to comment on it.


Your post is worthless without pics ya know.
HAH.



I think this is a rare case of no pics increasing its worth myself!
 

jw0ollard

Senior member
Jul 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labotomy
I have heard the word before and what not, but never knew what it was. Actually I thought it was the doctor taking your blood. (phlebotomist)
HEH.
Freaky shit, wonder if today's medical procedures will be looked upon like that.
Your nuts
What about his nuts?

Yes, I'd like to know, too.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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cuckoos nest yea, nutty stuff. the through the eyeball thing was the "improved technique" lol
we also sterilized folk as well back then
we were esp successful in california
 

rhino56

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Oct 6, 2004
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i know a guy who has been on mood controlling drugs for years. he also got electro shock therapy, it still didnt help his addiction to the drugs that the doctors had created to help him.
 

Born2bwire

Diamond Member
Oct 28, 2005
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I'm sure your folks explained it all to you right before the procedure. You probably just forgot what it was.
 

GoatMonkey

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Feb 25, 2005
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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
Originally posted by: jagec
lobotomy, people.
Moniz won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 1949 for this work....In 1950 lobotomy was banned in the Soviet Union.
Interesting politics there. Must be one of the few times the USSR was ahead of the West on human rights/patient protection.

Freeman advocated this procedure for patients with even fairly mild symptoms. He personally performed the operation on thousands of people and promoted the idea of lobotomy as a casual procedure, claiming it would one day be as common as dental work....
A trained doctor thought that destroying healthy brain tissue for no reason was a good idea? Scary.

If you want to see something freaky, look up the Soviet research into animated severed dog heads.

link?

I just saw this post now. I hate to bring back a dead thread, but here it is:

http://www.archive.org/details/Experime1940

I don't really recommend watching it, but if you want to see something freaky and gross...
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labotomy
I have heard the word before and what not, but never knew what it was. Actually I thought it was the doctor taking your blood. (phlebotomist)
HEH.
Freaky shit, wonder if today's medical procedures will be looked upon like that.

My old roommate was in a bad accident and he had to have a partial labotomy and some of his head reconstructed. he's got a titanium eye socket. :Q

Badass going through security, I would think, but he's not had much trouble with it. He is a bit of a loon though.
 

RESmonkey

Diamond Member
May 6, 2007
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The idea behind a lobotomy was the same behind chemotherapy. Kill a bunch to get rid of the bad parts and hopefully the good parts will rebuild. But in the case of most of them, the idea was to simply remove the problem areas. It's kind of like using a game genie with random codes.

:laugh:

Anywhere but anandtech I would find that comparison strange.

OMG I remember doing that with Gameshark and Pokemon. Once in a while, you get the strange OMFGWTF!?!? event.

Anyway, random surgery = bad.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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I've worked at a big psych hospital & taken care of a couple of patients that had lobotomies back in the day, I also took care of a guy that shot himself on one side of his temple, it went completely through and came out the other side of his head, he was pretty fucked up before he shot himself and after he recovered he was a pretty decent person & was discharged home eventually, he essentially gave himself a lobotomy.

I've also seen a couple of ECT's done, pretty trippy stuff.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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it's wierd that lobotomy threads usually end up mentioning the russian dog head video.

I don't see the connection, is it something that comes up in a search engine though?

 
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