Doom (2016) Discussion

[BarkingGhostar]

Its like oil and wireless dependency.

 

[leper84]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAFSz8yxrE

New single player trailer

 

[moonbogg]

yep that's badass looking.

 

[Sulaco]

yep that's badass looking.

Save for the silly "Press [insert key bind] to perform cinematic melee kill" consolized nonsense.

I love the look and art direction, but ugh, every other shot is some over-animated melee kill to make the kiddies giggle and seems thoroughly out of place in DOOM.

 

[Martimus]

I actually think the game looks pretty cool, but I won't buy it until it gets under $10. I have way too many games as it is, so I have been using that rule for a while now.

 

[Martimus]

Save for the silly "Press [insert key bind] to perform cinematic melee kill" consolized nonsense.

I love the look and art direction, but ugh, every other shot is some over-animated melee kill to make the kiddies giggle and seems thoroughly out of place in DOOM.

Doom was the first PC game I got in the early 90s, and it was definitely all about the,"over animated kill" as you call it. The gore was over the top on purpose in the game, so seeing that in this game puts it back in line with the original. I completely disagree that the finishing moves make it "undoom-like", and I believe they encompass the original Doom quite well.

 

[JEDIYoda]

No thanks. $60 for one of the slowest and least moddable single-player games I've ever seen which is supposed to be part of a fast-paced highly moddable franchise really doesn't sound appealing. But the real gem is the $120 Collectors Edition on offer consisting of the $60 version + a tacky $5 PVC toy + a $1 cardboard box... The rest is just the usual "don't make an informed decision by waiting for reviews. Instead get into the habit of supporting poor industry practises by making uninformed decisions in exchange for a couple of tacky bribes pre-order bonuses..."

Let's be honest, if it didn't have the "Doom" or "Id" labels stuck on to make it seem "iconic" for riding off the back of a 23 year old Golden Age franchise with completely different gameplay, and if it were made by an Indie studio but looked & played the same with its "slow generic designed-for-controller FPS with UAC & hell textures + Brutal-Doom inspired finishing moves as its sole gimmick" identity, it sure as hell (excuse the pun) wouldn't be selling for a comical $60-$120...

Let`s be honest -- you have no clue.....

 

[Sulaco]

Doom was the first PC game I got in the early 90s, and it was definitely all about the,"over animated kill" as you call it. The gore was over the top on purpose in the game, so seeing that in this game puts it back in line with the original. I completely disagree that the finishing moves make it "undoom-like", and I believe they encompass the original Doom quite well.

I have no problem with melee, in theory. It has always been in Doom.


I'm simply less than optimistic it will be implemented better than the trite "Press X for rad melee kill" QTE-style segments we've become all too familiar with in games these days. The fact that nearly every other scene shown in those trailers was of a melee kill is somewhat worrying.
I'm hoping I'm wrong, but only time will tell.

 

[leper84]

I'm hopeful after the new trailer.

Melee looks quick and you don't have to use it.

Weapon wheel isn't mandatory, weapons switch quick.

More monsters than the e3 demo, as well as the pace seems to be faster.

Not sold on it yet but its worth being a little optimistic.

 

[2is]

I'll buy it, eventually, but I'll definitely not pre-order it.

Same, I still have a huge back log by the time I'm ready to buy it'll be a bargain bin price.

 

[thejunglegod]

Well, the last good FPS I played was the new Wolfenstein ones, so I'm pretty kicked about this. Whenever I think of Doom I think of those Pulse rifles(I think), the ones which shoot those blue blobs. Fascinating and gets me a little nostalgic.

 

[reallyscrued]

B-b-b-b-b-but no mods man! I can't make my own custom doo-dads and put them in the gamez!!

...you know that just because you use that tone it doesn't mean that you negate the fact that the complaint is perfectly valid, right?

Just letting you know that stupid whiny form of statement(s) isn't just a quick trump card you can apply for every argument.

 

[Igo69]

It is already coming in May so they have been making it for while now, seems fishy I hope it is not going to be a few hour game

 

[Arachnotronic]

I truly believe that pre-ordering will die out. If we can all just band together we can eliminate this scourge on gaming. We can create a brighter future for our children and our children's children. A bright world where the shining pure spirits of humanity force back the thick dark choking cloud of evil permeating through every crevice of the gaming industry. We can unite as one to smite the evils of of our cherished pastime. We can prevail! We will prevail! We can evoke change so profound that the good that comes from it spreads throughout the world to eventually unite all of humanity in world peace! Who is with me?

You are one of my favorite members on these message boards, but when it comes to Doom I just can't get behind you.

Happy to avoid pre-orders on any other titles though

 

[Arachnotronic]

I love the look and art direction, but ugh, every other shot is some over-animated melee kill to make the kiddies giggle and seems thoroughly out of place in DOOM.

Yep, it's phenomenal. The monsters look like what you'd expect from "modernized" full-3D versions of the originals -- a lot more detail, but same core concepts for the most part.

The environments also look like they'll actually have some color in them, something that was sorely lacking in DOOM 3 (and basically every id game after DOOM II).

 

[IGemini]

Meh, pre-ordering makes less and less sense these days. The problem is you're paying full price for the game plus shelling out more money for DLC. If pre-ordering reserved rights to all the developer's DLC (or at least the level/quest/campaign/etc expansion content) it might be more appealing. I get that Activision has made a point of gouging the market by constantly respinning Call of Doodie, but that doesn't mean it has to be the norm for the industry.

I'll likely get D4 but not before it drops in price significantly.

If the single player campaign isn't at least 15-20 hours then no. 5 hour campaign shooters pffft.

Just to throw this out there, id says the campaign weighs in at least 13 hours.

 

[futurefields]

Lol. Interest level in this game is obviously sky high /sarcssm

Why innit called Doom 4?

Im noticing this trend, calling the game the same name as the original old one.

 

[aigomorla]

#neverpreorder

+1

again incase u dont understand...

NEVERPREORDER!

i have yet to play a AAA title game where its perfect day 1...
always wait for that first patch from either the dev's or your GFX card company.

 

[Raduque]

Hey, thanks for reminding me, just pre-ordered the Collectors Edition! :thumbsup: Love that Revenant statue.

 

[Homerboy]

Dont forget pre-orders on Amazon (with prime) are 15% off.

 

[cmdrdredd]

+1

again incase u dont understand...

NEVERPREORDER!

i have yet to play a AAA title game where its perfect day 1...
always wait for that first patch from either the dev's or your GFX card company.

So? Some people want it right away no matter what. You guys think some crusade against pre-ordering will make developers stop releasing DLC and it will magically remove all bugs?

What you do is up to you but every single thread about a game has the same people talking about how pre-orders are bad is just annoying.

 

[futurefields]

Preorders are bad.

 

[frowertr]

There is not upside to preorders. I just don't get it.

If it was cheaper I'd consider it but there is not a reason to do it that makes sense.

 

[BSim500]

What you do is up to you but every single thread about a game has the same people talking about how pre-orders are bad is just annoying.

On an industry level they are bad especially when combined with their evil twin (publishers who want game review sites to keep pushing positive hype-train stuff (including deceptive industry "bullshots") whilst simultaneously using review embargoes to try and hide the negatives until after the pre-order sale is complete). That's about as anti-consumer as you can get. There's a reason why the devs pushing both of this stuff together along with tacky pre-order bonuses pro-uninformed-choice-bribes were the same ones who bitched and whined "the end is nigh!" when Steam introduced refunds. :sneaky: It's not like it's still 1994 and you have to phone up your local game store to set aside a boxed copy before they run out of stock...

 

[Tweak155]

There is not upside to preorders. I just don't get it.

If it was cheaper I'd consider it but there is not a reason to do it that makes sense.

Not having to go to the store and deal with people / stock issues - not to mention the option to get it delivered to your door on release day? Seems like the obvious answers... at least for me.

What exactly is the benefit of just buying it on release day instead?