Doom (2016) Discussion

[Carfax83]

Honestly, I'm not overwhelmed by gsync but I understand different people have different things that they are susceptible to or notice. Frame tearing doesn't bother me and I get high frame rates in just about any game, so I could be just as happy without gsync/freesync. Low refresh rates aggravate the shit out of me, I can't play with 60Hz, I don't even like using the desktop on a 60Hz setting. If you notice tearing I can say full stop you owe it to yourself to get a gsync monitor, even though tearing doesn't bother me, I still noticed the visual fluidity improvement brought about by the tearing being gone. On the other hand, even if tearing doesn't bother you, you should really try out a 120/144/165Hz monitor even if it's one without some form of adaptive sync. If forced to choose either/or, I'll take 120Hz over resolution increases, adaptive sync, and color fidelity all day, any day.

Tearing definitely bothers me, but 60 FPS to me is buttery smooth. I can't even imagine Doom running any smoother than it already does at 60 FPS..

What also bothers me are bad Vsync implementations. That alone makes me want to go Gsync. The reason why I've been putting it off is because I also want to go 4K, but the hardware just isn't there yet to fully power 4K; at least not for single card setups. I'm done with SLI! D:

Hopefully big Pascal can power 4K properly, so that I can finally upgrade my monitor!

BTW, Carfax...What exact settings are you running? Because I have every single thing in game set to the maximum it allows but I think your screenshot looks better than mine. So I need to untick, lower, or disable something. Your shot looks more crisp or something.

I have everything set to maximum. The reason why my screenshots look crisper is likely because I have the sharpness maxed out. If you're using TSSAA 8x, it can blur the image slightly although it works great for getting rid of jaggies and temporal aliasing.. Boosting the sharpness can help counteract that effect however.

Also, make sure your gamma isn't too high either, and that film grain and CA are disabled..

*Edit* Oh, and I have rendering mode on default.

 

[Grooveriding]

All the positive anecdotes made me pick this up. I'm usually not a fan of buying full price games at release for short SP campaigns (The MP looks really bad). Hopefully I enjoy it.

 

[2is]

Hmm, never heard of Kadingir Sanctum. That must be way ahead of where I am. At any rate, I found out what was causing it.

This game does not play nice with HT, but I don't think quad cores are affected so you should be fine.

Have you tried setting your affinity to the first 6 cores in task manager? I'm thinking the game gets confused when you have more than 8 threads going and it's loading a thread on a physical core and a virtual core instead of a separate physical core.

I belive the first 6 would be limiting it to the physical cores only, might be an easier option then going into the bios and enabling/disabling HT all the time,.

 

[Eric1987]

All the positive anecdotes made me pick this up. I'm usually not a fan of buying full price games at release for short SP campaigns (The MP looks really bad). Hopefully I enjoy it.

Why would you pay full price anyways? I got it for 32$. I RARELY pay full price for a game.

 

[joekingston]

Tearing definitely bothers me, but 60 FPS to me is buttery smooth. I can't even imagine Doom running any smoother than it already does at 60 FPS..

What also bothers me are bad Vsync implementations. That alone makes me want to go Gsync. The reason why I've been putting it off is because I also want to go 4K, but the hardware just isn't there yet to fully power 4K; at least not for single card setups. I'm done with SLI! D:

Hopefully big Pascal can power 4K properly, so that I can finally upgrade my monitor!



I have everything set to maximum. The reason why my screenshots look crisper is likely because I have the sharpness maxed out. If you're using TSSAA 8x, it can blur the image slightly although it works great for getting rid of jaggies and temporal aliasing.. Boosting the sharpness can help counteract that effect however.

Also, make sure your gamma isn't too high either, and that film grain and CA are disabled..

*Edit* Oh, and I have rendering mode on default.

How big of a performance impact is TSSAA (8TX) over the other AA modes? Your screenshots look great, I want to try TSSAA with sharpening when I get home but not if it nerfs my FPS. I'm using SMAA (1TX) right now. It does a good enough job but the jaggies and shimmering is still there, especially on the floors.

 

[WiseUp216]

Loving this new ultrawide monitor...

 

[Eric1987]

Posted twice.

 

[Attic]

Why would you pay full price anyways? I got it for 32$. I RARELY pay full price for a game.

Where? I paid $48 at GreenMan.

 

[Grooveriding]

Why would you pay full price anyways? I got it for 32$. I RARELY pay full price for a game.

I usually don't buy direct from Steam anymore. AAA games are $80 in Canada on Steam now. I just mean buying at release is going to cost more. I got it at cdkeys for $45 CDN.

 

[HeXen]

Well this sucks, when I try to load the game, it crashes to desktop. I have the latest Nvidia driver and even a new install of W10, so not sure what the deal is...anyone experience this?

What kind of screw was holding down your battery door? I think mine was completely stripped... I had to pull it out with side cutters.

But yes, the statue is awesome.

Small phillips, did you use too big of a screwdriver? But yeah, considering the cost they could have just made it a simple latch or slide the cover to pull off. I also didn't even realize this thing had an on/off switch until I just happen to notice the instructions on the box flap, just wish you didn't have to pull that piece off to use it, I can see it getting lost.

 

[YBS1]

Loving this new ultrawide monitor...

And this is why I can't wait for a 21:9 monitor that clicks off all my checkbox requirements. That looks epic.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Is this game any fun? It doesn't LOOK fun...

 

[2is]

How big of a performance impact is TSSAA (8TX) over the other AA modes? Your screenshots look great, I want to try TSSAA with sharpening when I get home but not if it nerfs my FPS. I'm using SMAA (1TX) right now. It does a good enough job but the jaggies and shimmering is still there, especially on the floors.

I personally didn't notice any appreciable performance difference between the two, but actually preferred SMAA (1TX). TSSAA was just too blurry for my liking. I didn't try any sharpening though.

 

[frowertr]

Is this game any fun? It doesn't LOOK fun...

You can't determine the answer to that from the last several pages of this thread? Really?

 

[moonbogg]

I'm going to mess with the sharpening to see what it does. I'll mess with the film grain also for fun. And yes, the game is fun. Someone mentioned it is also scary, and at times I actually agree.
There is this level where one of those large demons spawns far away and up high. He jumps down, and starts making his way all the way over to you and its actually pretty creepy how lifelike he seems. He has beaten the piss out of me several times and smashed my face with his foot, and the screen goes dark. BITCHIN ass game!
Also, I think part of the reason the game runs so well is because it is based on levels like old school games were. The PC only has to render that one level and not a big world. Does that sound right or is that just not right?

WOW sharpening OMG. Holy crap it makes the game look so much better its crazy. I almost want to play through the whole thing from the start with sharpening cranked up. Jesus the game is blurry without it cranked. People, crank that sharpening to 4 and check it out.

 

[Carfax83]

How big of a performance impact is TSSAA (8TX) over the other AA modes? Your screenshots look great, I want to try TSSAA with sharpening when I get home but not if it nerfs my FPS. I'm using SMAA (1TX) right now. It does a good enough job but the jaggies and shimmering is still there, especially on the floors.

None of the AA modes are particularly taxing from what I've seen. TSSAA 8TX is probably just slightly more taxing than the others, but it's WAY better at resolving both temporal and regular aliasing, which is why it's the default AA.

Of course this comes with a slight blur penalty, but that's easily offset by the sharpening.

 

[Carfax83]

More doom benchmarks, this time from GamersNexus, and they're in line with the PCGH and GameGPU benchmarks. The only outlier seems to be PC Gamer's benches, which showed better performance for the AMD GPUs:

 

[ImpulsE69]

You can't determine the answer to that from the last several pages of this thread? Really?

Talking about graphics isn't the same thing as fun.

 

[Carfax83]

Talking about graphics isn't the same thing as fun.

The last time I had this much fun with an FPS, was Bioshock Infinite. But while the story was the main focus in Bioshock Infinite, with Doom it's the gameplay.

Gameplay takes the main stage with Doom, and it shines all the more for it. It has the fastest and most hectic shooting mechanics of any shooter I can think of, which requires a certain amount of skill and tactics, but is very rewarding when you massacre the legions of demons that keep coming at you.

 

[2is]

Talking about graphics isn't the same thing as fun.

There's a lot more then just graphics talk going on in this thread.

 

[Carfax83]

Have you tried setting your affinity to the first 6 cores in task manager? I'm thinking the game gets confused when you have more than 8 threads going and it's loading a thread on a physical core and a virtual core instead of a separate physical core.

I belive the first 6 would be limiting it to the physical cores only, might be an easier option then going into the bios and enabling/disabling HT all the time,.

I figured it out. You can read my final solution in this thread.

Basically, the problem was with my particular overclock and Windows power configuration.

 

[Tweak155]

And this is why I can't wait for a 21:9 monitor that clicks off all my checkbox requirements. That looks epic.

I have an "in between" solution... I originally wanted a 21:9 monitor but while I was waiting, a 40" 4K deal fell in my lap.

I figured out (at least with NVidia... probably can do something similar with AMD) that I could configure custom resolutions and any modern game will recognize them. So I have a custom resolution of 3840x1440, 3840x1260 and etc so some games I can play in windowed mode and have space on my desktop.

What is really nice for Doom 4... you can pick one of those resolutions and play full screen. It makes it easier for my measly GTX970 to push more FPS and I get an ultra wide FOV... but flexibility of 4K outside of the game. Been pretty happy with it.

 

[Carfax83]

Just got to Kadingir Sanctum in Hell, and man it looks sick!

These screenshots show how awesome virtual textures can be, as ID's artist went to town on this one and did not hold back their creative fervor one bit..

It looks a lot better in game though, as the entire scene is very dynamic with lots of particle effects, and the skybox looks fucking amazing!

 

[KMFJD]

how is the multiplayer?

 

[cytg111]

Well Hell .. This game just took it to next level come Hell .. goddamn thats some mighty fine craftsmanship.

holy crap I am enjoying this game.