Doom 3 "Evil"?

[chazdraves]

Normally my parents don't take a big interest in my gaming life, but, being 18 and living at home, they do glance in my room from time to time to see what's holding my attention at the moment. Of course, yesterday was "da big day" the final official release of Doom 3. Needless to say - I got it. Friends were over to check out the latest and greatest and (after about an hour of play as it was already night when I got it) we parted ways and went to bed. Or I would have went to bed, but it was then that my parents walked in and said they didn't want this game in their house... Wait, you want me to sell Doom 3 after only playin' an hour of it?

The general break down of it all was that they felt (because the storyline revolves around the unleashing of Hell) that Doom 3 was just another evil tool to sway believers. Now, I'm not hear to preach, but my faith is definitely important. So, if my parents come about saying something's evil and I should steer clear, I will at least hear them out and consider their perspective, but I'm having a hard time agreeing with 'em at all. Yes, the "bad guys" in Doom 3 are pretty evil (they came straight from Hell), but the game doesn't promote being like those guys, it puts a shotgun in your hand and asks yah kindly to send 'em back... Yeah, the game's pretty dark, does that make it evil? Night time is pretty dark... don't seem to evil to me...

Anyhow, I guess I was just curious on the opinions others (especially those of the faith, but everyone in general as well) have regarding Doom 3 (and the alike) in relation to the whole Good/Evil thing. Anyone care to take a stab? Thanks.

- Chaz

 

[Xionide]

Your family should be liquidated.

-Xionide

 

[Czar]

tell them you are playing gods soldier in the game killing all evil so in a sense its a good game stamped ok by god

or something

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

It's a freaking video game. If you have issues with the difference between reality and make-believe, maybe you shouldn't be playing Doom3. Or watching TV. Or going outside.

Tell your parents that they need to be less legalistic.

 

[Xionide]

No children you cant play Doom 3, come watch the passion of the smut with us. Its a good wholesome christian movie. Liquidated I say.

-Xionide

 

[chazdraves]

Don't get me wrong - I completely agree, it's a game. And, yes, I did do the whole "God's soldier bit", heh. Don't think they cared, but I really can't see what there is to denote as "evil", and they've never flipped before over anything, so I'm curious if there's something in particular that stands out about Doom 3 that I'm just not noticing? Keep 'em comin'

- Chaz

Xionide - can you please post respectfully or not at all? Thanks.

 

[Confused]

Nope, your parents are being totally stupid. If they can't see the difference between a game and reality, well then...tough.


I always remember this quote when things are said about computer games:

Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music.

Confused

 

[Czar]

they are your parents and think they know whats best for you?

 

[chazdraves]

I oughta write that one down...

Edit: The PacMan quote, that is...

- Chaz

 

[eLiu]

Find that quicktime movie on "Real Live vs the Internet" (the one w/the two Halo guys hosting) and show that to them.

Edit: You know, there are kids that munch pills in dark rooms & listen to repetitive music...

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: chazdraves
Don't get me wrong - I completely agree, it's a game. And, yes, I did do the whole "God's soldier bit", heh. Don't think they cared, but I really can't see what there is to denote as "evil", and they've never flipped before over anything, so I'm curious if there's something in particular that stands out about Doom 3 that I'm just not noticing? Keep 'em comin'

- Chaz

Xionide - can you please post respectfully or not at all? Thanks.

But but but my mother didnt teach to post that way. :thumbsdown:

-Xionide

 

[chazdraves]

Originally posted by: Xionide

Originally posted by: chazdraves
Don't get me wrong - I completely agree, it's a game. And, yes, I did do the whole "God's soldier bit", heh. Don't think they cared, but I really can't see what there is to denote as "evil", and they've never flipped before over anything, so I'm curious if there's something in particular that stands out about Doom 3 that I'm just not noticing? Keep 'em comin'

- Chaz

Xionide - can you please post respectfully or not at all? Thanks.

But but but my mother didnt teach to post that way. :thumbsdown:

-Xionide

My sympathies. Then please excuse me for ignoring your posts, I'm not looking for a religious flame war.

- Chaz

 

[Xionide]

Even if you werent religous I would still think this post is retarded. It has no point. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM US?! Do you think that your parents are going to be right about the game and somewhere along the line you get a super demon power mushroom to help you along your way? NO IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN! Or you could show this thread to your parents and be like "see anandtech said it was totally down with jebus :thumbsup::thumbsup:". Or is it that you have been told all your life what to believe in and now you are doubting your parents wisdom but still need anandtech to verify that you are right because you wont just stand up for yourself? WTF?!

-Xionide

 

[Aimster]

wow extremist..
then again I was born in a do whatever believe whatever you like family. Actually I never even knew what religion was till friends told me so what do I know.. nothing.
Their house their laws.

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: Aimster
wow extremist..
then again I was born in a do whatever believe whatever you like family. Actually I never even knew what religion was till friends told me so what do I know.. nothing.
Their house their laws.

Werent you banned or something?

-Xionide

 

[chazdraves]

Originally posted by: Aimster
wow extremist..
then again I was born in a do whatever believe whatever you like family. Actually I never even knew what religion was till friends told me so what do I know.. nothing.
Their house their laws.

But obviously no one can really support or back their view, which at least proves it's not just me that feels this is a tish ridiculous...

- Chaz

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Xionide

Originally posted by: Aimster
wow extremist..
then again I was born in a do whatever believe whatever you like family. Actually I never even knew what religion was till friends told me so what do I know.. nothing.
Their house their laws.

Werent you banned or something?

-Xionide

You keep asking me that. Do you want attention or something? If so make a whole new thread about it so everyone can see. Obviously you know I wasn't banned since this is the 5th time you've asked me that.

 

[Xionide]

Hmm you see every time I have asked you that I never returned to the thread. Do you know what time it is? Do you know how inebriated I am? Why do you act so likable right now why dont you rile sh!t up like you used to. It was really funny.

-Xionide

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Xionide
Hmm you see every time I have asked you that I never returned to the thread. Do you know what time it is? Do you know how inebriated I am? Why do you act so likable right now why dont you rile sh!t up like you used to. It was really funny.

-Xionide

Good luck with that when you wake up.

 

[Gravity]

What about multiplayer then? No satan spawn there.

Also, I'm impressed at the way you respect your parents.

 

[chazdraves]

Originally posted by: Gravity
What about multiplayer then? No satan spawn there.

Also, I'm impressed at the way you respect your parents.

Well, thanks... I don't know that they'd mind multi... I think if you could turn off gore some how they'd maybe care a little less. I just wish I saw their logic. I mean, how many games have we had now where we kill zombies? Eh...

- Chaz

 

[Kraeji]

When you move out.. then you can decide what's evil or not evil

 

[40Hands]

My mom used to try that kind of thing with me back in the day. I had too many arguements against all of hers that she couldnt hold her ground and had to give in. Sounds like your parents are needing more control over you for whatever reason. You should give them the game then start dressing all goth and worshiping satan. This way they will be like "oh no what have we done" and promptly give you back the awsomeness that is Doom 3.

 

[Atomicus]

Just slap a sticker that says "Jesus Inside" on your tower

 

[Psycho18]

My momma always said," Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get."