DOOM 3 IS NOT MULTIPLAYER!!!

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Malladine

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Meh, Doom 3... HL2 is going to be better...
And?

Edipis: Try lan gaming with a few friends, if you haven't already (and if you have, try again with different friends). And thanks for the complement. I will never be corrupted!
 

PrinceXizor

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Thanks motoamd, a very much more reputable source with actual "quotes". As far as FPS's go, when you are fragging people at a clip of one every 20 seconds in a furious fragfest, do you really care how intricately detailed the characters and environment are? That might have something to do with a deemphasis on multiplay for Doom 3. That being said, isn't there a precedent for releasing a single player FPS and then releasing another specifically tuned for multiplayer? Didn't both UT and Quake take this route a couple of times?

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Malladine

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Didn't both UT and Quake take this route a couple of times?
Absolutely.

As far as FPS's go, when you are fragging people at a clip of one every 20 seconds in a furious fragfest, do you really care how intricately detailed the characters and environment are? That might have something to do with a deemphasis on multiplay for Doom 3
Very correct once again.
 

PCMarine

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GTA3 and Vice City don't have multiplayer, but people still bought that game like hotcakes.
 

PrinceXizor

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Posting while reading is never a good idea...lo and behold, the gamespy correspondant said thats the whole point in Doom3 (my last posts points). Doom 3 DOES NOT EQUAL QUAKE ON STEROIDS!! The game play of Quake was SUPPOSED to be fluid and fast moving. John said specifically that putting this level of detail into quake3 would be pointless because the player wasn't supposed to spend too much time anywhere. Doom3, however, the player is SUPPOSED to linger, not just blast his way as fast and furiously as possible to the next level. Couple that with set pieces that were designed with detail in mind (read one player taking the time to utilize said detail) you can see why multiplaying was deemphasized.

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Dug

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DOOM 3 IS NOT MULTIPLAYER!!!

Thank God, maybe it'll be released sooner.

I hate multiplayer fps. get up, shoot, die, get up, shoot, die......

DoomIII has atmosphere, cool music, storyline, etc that would be all lost in mp. Just play Q3 if you want mp.
 

PrinceXizor

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Some actual real info from the gamespy article (check out Motoamd's post for the linky).

Scared yet? DOOM 3 is a far cry from the original DOOM, with its hordes of monsters and blazing fast action, and that shift in design priorities was one of the topics that anchored John's talk.

When Carmack started drawing up his plans for the DOOM 3 engine, he wanted it to break new ground graphically -- and then he wanted to design a game around it. It was about getting what he called "a real 'WOW' impact," and it meant sacrifices elsewhere. "You have to make compromises," he explained. A complex lighting renderer meant that players wouldn't be able to enter a room full of a hundred monsters and mow them down like grass. It defines a different experience; one where the player progresses from elaborate set piece to elaborate set piece engaged in brutal up-close combat with small groups of extremely detailed monsters.

The result is the tightness of DOOM's world, where light plays off of every surface and shadows move with the same fluidity as the creatures that cast them. This, too, leads to different design decisions. Quake 3 was a game about action and movement; richer graphics would be wasted on a game like Quake 3, where nobody has time to look at stuff. But DOOM 3 is about being rooted in an environment, being trapped in a far away place where each room is a custom crafted set piece. You're meant to linger.

So why did Carmack and id Software, known for their love of furious competitive deathmatch, switch gears to what Carmack described as simply "a really really good linear single-player experience?"

The answer lies partially in the direction the market is moving. Team-based games are dominating the online action scene, for a number of reasons. The variety of gameplay is part of it, as well as the variety of play styles a team game can support. Carmack also figures that, in team games, half the players always win (as opposed to one player in deathmatch.) But this, personally, never interested Carmack. "I never really appreciated team activities ... in real life or in computer games," he said, to the amusement of the audience. Instead, id Software moved in another direction.

For those who read the Inq...this is what is called "journalism" :Q

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PCHPlayer

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Originally posted by: Dug
DOOM 3 IS NOT MULTIPLAYER!!!

Thank God, maybe it'll be released sooner.

I hate multiplayer fps. get up, shoot, die, get up, shoot, die......

DoomIII has atmosphere, cool music, storyline, etc that would be all lost in mp. Just play Q3 if you want mp.

I completely agree. I find single player to be more enjoyable. I think the original posters comment that 99% of the fun is MP is way off the mark. Perhaps for him/her it is, but don't put everyone into one category. I have tried multi-player shooters (Half-life add-on, RTCW) and found them to be incredibly boring. After 5 minutes I was ready to go outside and watch the grass grow.

Of course I didn't see any mention of why this thread is in the "General Hardware" forum. Perhaps the software forum would have been a better place.
 

Looney

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hmmm i thought there was going to be multiplayer as well. It's going to be suicide if it's just single player.
 

Schadenfroh

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there will be a multiplayer, its called quake4. you make more money by selling the multiplayer and single player seperatley
 

Mikewarrior2

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since this was posted above, and was quickly ignored, here it is again

TW: Our focus hasn't changed--we're putting all our resources into developing an unbelievable single-player experience. We will, however, include a multiplayer component that includes game types like deathmatch and last man standing. There is nothing more visceral than competing against another human player, particularly in a first-person game. However, this experience is going to be very different from something like Quake III Arena. Doom III multiplayer is incredibly intense, and the light and shadows play a much bigger role in the gameplay. Never before in a multiplayer game have players had to worry about their shadow and whether or not it has revealed their position, or been able to shoot out lights so they can hide in the darkness. This alone adds a level of reality, depth, and atmosphere that is again going to redefine expectations about how a multiplayer game should look and feel.

from Gamespot Doom3 Q&A From Last MOnth

It appears to be from April, since the article mentions that doom3 will be shown at E3 next month.

Either way, there is a multiplayer component or so it seems... Sheesh, read the above posts and links

Mike
 

Wingznut

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I'm glad that it's not going to be MP, personally... Presuming it kicks @ss as a single player game, of course.

I've done the LAN parties, joined/led the clans, participated in worldwide tournaments.... But it's all grown weary. It's been several months since I've played a FPS online.

Been there, done that.
 

JKing76

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Support for multiplayer games are irrelevant when trying to compare Doom3 against Half Life 2. The only thing that matters -- in objectively ranking games -- is the Crate Testing System.
 

erikiksaz

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Been there, done that.

Yes, done that too many times to count. We haven't had an awesome single player FPS in a while, so bring on the D3!

As for HL2, its mulitiplayer sucked. The only thing worth of multiplay on that engine were the MODS.
 

Jennerstein

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My take: I believe the no multiplayer bit from the Inquirer is referring to earlier information from id that co-op in Doom 3 would be missing because of heavily scripted singleplayer events. Perhaps the author heard "no multiplayer co-op" during the interview and interpreted it to mean "no multiplayer" at all.
 

onelin

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omg, shock, panic, disbelieve...not. This is no surprise, and id Software has said stuff along these lines for some time now. It won't make a difference in my decision...though I certainly would like 2-4 player co-op...as for DM, there's plenty already and w/ all the eyecandy it won't be a good DM game until hardware catches up.
 

Zrom999

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who cares? at least you don't have to deal with a bunch of cheating 13 yearolds

Hell yeah. Them lamers made me hate Quake I and HL, so I don't play online anymore. Got sick of that crap. Now I get games for their fun value not for their ability to be played online. Doom III looks awesome from the trailer and looks like a lot of fun.
 

mrman3k

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This sucks. A while back I thought Carmack said D3 will have a limited multiplayer capability but it would not be the emphasis.

I will definetly never buy Doom 3, at the most I might download it or get a copy, play it for a night just to see the graphics then delete it to save room on my hard drive. Single player games are not fun since you are alone, you might as well go out and buy yourself a console.:|
 
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