Doom 3 Requirements.

[Bonesdad]

Carmack LIKES the challenge of delivering a GREAT game for ANY gamer - from a GF2/3 to nitrogen cooled Ultra 6800s in SLI.

yeah, they would be fools to pump the requirements up so high that only 5% of the gaming audience could play them with the candy on. What's the point of releaseing a new game when it the same as teh old game? I'm pretty comfortable with my 2500+/512MB/GF4 4200. I don't have to have ALL the candy on...the GAME is the important part for me. Don't care how good it looks, if it plays like crap, it is crap.

 

[MattStone]

Exactly. And at this point, with no benchmarks out, it's probably better to wait and play the game before you decide to spend a chunck of change on an upgrade.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt Stone
Exactly. And at this point, with no benchmarks out, it's probably better to wait and play the game before you decide to spend a chunck of change on an upgrade.

Has everyone forgot so quickly? - there ARE "official" id doom iii benchmarks - from LAST year!

The top cards then - 9800Pro/XT and the 5950U did very well; the game can ONLY be "optimized" FURTHER; mid-range cards (now) like the 9700Pro should do great.

 

[BFG10K]

Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.

Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.

Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

Of course for you, it has to be 1600x1200 @ 8xAA 32xAF and 210fps to be playable. :roll:

 

[BenSkywalker]

yeah, they would be fools to pump the requirements up so high that only 5% of the gaming audience could play them with the candy on.

If by fools you mean brilliant then you would be right. id will make more money on the D3 engine in 2007 then they will this year, bank on it.

 

[gxsaurav]

Just wanted to ask U guys about image quality, I swapped components of my 2 PCs, so now in my Primary PC I have P4 3.06 GHz with HT/533 FSB, 512 MB DDR400 RAM, & FX5900XT with 128 MB RAM, I have a 17" monitor samsung Syncmaster 763MB which goes to a max of 1280X1024. everything is working at stock speed

Until now I have been playing all games at the constant setting of 1024X768 with 4XS Anti Allising & 4X anis. or this rig, but wanted to know if compared according to quality, what resolution (1600X1200, or something else it compares to) also what quality it will be compariable to if I play at 1024X768 with 2XQ AA & 2X Anis if performance is lower in the 4X setting

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.

Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

Of course for you, it has to be 1600x1200 @ 8xAA 32xAF and 210fps to be playable. :roll:

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[jim1976]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.

Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

Of course for you, it has to be 1600x1200 @ 8xAA 32xAF and 210fps to be playable. :roll:

I higly doubt you know what AF does,no matter what you said in your previous post.
He's explaining to you why AF is essential at these res, and you act like a 10 yer old child? BTW are you?

 

[JetBlack69]

They have them here

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/tech/weekly/2690450

Todd Hollenshead, id's chief executive, said Doom 3 will require:

? A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500.
? 384 megabytes of memory.
? Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
? An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better.
If your existing rig doesn't meet these specs, here's a guide to beefing it up to play Doom 3 in all its gory glory.

? Graphics card. This is the best upgrade you can make for Doom 3. It's also where computer makers, looking to cut corners on mainstream systems, often wimp out.
Here's hoping the PC you own doesn't have a graphics adapter that borrows memory from the main system. So-called shared graphics notoriously choke on high-end games, and most budget systems don't include an AGP slot that lets you install a better card.

ATI Technologies and nVidia are the two biggest providers of graphics cards. As you move up either company's set of offerings, the results will improve. Cards at the top of the heap ? nVidia's GeForce FX and newer 6800 series, or ATI's Radeon 9800 or newer X series ? will provide the best experience and cost the most.

If you're upgrading, look for at least 128 MB of video memory in a card with Direct X 9.0 capability that installs into an AGP slot. Cards in the $150 to $200 range ? such as a GeForce 5900XT or a Radeon 9600XT ? will be a sweet spot.

? Memory. The 384 MB minimum may trip up a lot of systems. Many mainstream PCs in the last few years have come with 128 or 256 MB of memory. If you want to play Doom 3, more memory is better. I'd recommend 512 MB, and adding up to a gigabyte would be smart.

Check with the maker of your PC to see what type of memory it requires. Prices varies depending on the source and type, but use $50 per 128 MB as a benchmark.

? Hard drive. This is one category that may not require an upgrade at all ? just some spring cleaning on your part.

If your hard drive is nearing capacity, take some time to clear off at least twice as much space as the game requires. That means you'll need at least 4 GB free.

Of course, if you're down to your last few gigs, you probably should buy a new drive. Get the biggest you can afford, with at least 7,200 revolutions per minute. You'll pay in the $80 range for a 120-GB Enhanced IDE drive or around $95 for a Serial ATA model.

? Processor. Although this is harder to upgrade, it's key to your Doom 3 experience. The minimum may be 1.5 GHz, but you'll probably want at least a 2-GHz Intel Pentium or equivalent AMD Athlon chip. The ideal is 3 GHz or better.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.

Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

Of course for you, it has to be 1600x1200 @ 8xAA 32xAF and 210fps to be playable. :roll:

I higly doubt you know what AF does,no matter what you said in your previous post.
He's explaining to you why AF is essential at these res, and you act like a 10 yer old child? BTW are you?

I highly doubt you know what the fvck you're talking about n00b. Defending one of the forum's least popular members is not a good way to go. You don't know how he is, you don't know why I said what I said, so mind your own.

 

[BenSkywalker]

I highly doubt you know what the fvck you're talking about n00b. Defending one of the forum's least popular members is not a good way to go. You don't know how he is, you don't know why I said what I said, so mind your own.

I'll say it then, do you even know what AF does? BFG's statement of it being increasingly desireable with higher resolutions was accurate.

 

[Regs]

I think the 512MB video card was needed so it could run without uncompressed textures. All that means is less work for the video card core, I don't know how that emplys to a games detail level.

 

[soulflyfan]

oh man, this is such a dumb thread. If your computer runs Farcry (stupidly power hungry) at a decent rate and resolution, it almost certainly will run doom3 that well or better. ID have had more time to optomise DX9 performance issues, and the day they release a game that nobody but the rich can play will be the day the queen mother of england rises from the grave to sucks me off on national tv (i'm not joking, it's just that unlikely) Also, from a business stand point, if they made a game for 10% of users, to recoup the costs they'd have to sell the game at around $500.

 

[BD2003]

Man, I actually read through this thread expecting to find useful information.

My system:
2500+@3000
1024mb ddr400
204mhz fsb
radeon 9800@ Almost 9800 Pro speeds

In the beta, it performs great at 1024x768 with 2xaa and 8x perf af. 800x600 gives a bit of a boost. The flashlight dips the fps just a wee bit, as does a few enemies. Id say its running about 30-40 or so depending on whats on the screen, although Ive seen it dip into the 10s, but I chalk that up to bad level design for the beta. Also, being a beta, performance in the retail game is likely to be much better. Itll easily hit 60 now in a sparser area.

Honestly people, its not going to be impossible to play. Theres something about the fact that the game is really dark and moody that makes a more average frame rate (30 or so) very bearable. Almost seems more cinematic in a way. AA is almost unnecessary its so dark.

That being said, you will probably have to play at a resolution lower than youre used to, but again, its so dark, you honestly dont notice it nearly as much. I wouldnt touch the game with a gf2, or even a gf3 for that matter. I played it a bit two years ago with a gf4, and it was pretty slow, but that was also quite some time ago.

Personally, the minimum I'd want to play it with is:

2ghz, 9500/9600, 512mb ram. But these are far from minimum.

You could probably get away with, although it wont be pretty or fast:

1.5ghz, gf4 4200, 512mb ram. Certainly not for the snobs who need a fast frame rate at a high res. Youre looking at 6x4 or 8x6 here for sure, with no AA/AF.

If you have 2.5ghz, 9700 pro, 1gb ram, or more, and youre golden, and have NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

Having a gig of ram helps immensely with load times and getting rid of hitches in game.

 

[TourDe]

Hmm....I just hope 512 mb ram is enough. i cant get 1gb right now

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

I highly doubt you know what the fvck you're talking about n00b. Defending one of the forum's least popular members is not a good way to go. You don't know how he is, you don't know why I said what I said, so mind your own.

I'll say it then, do you even know what AF does? BFG's statement of it being increasingly desireable with higher resolutions was accurate.

Of course I know what it does. How do you think I was able to tell the last guy that he didn't know what he was talking about when he stated that AF wasn't needed at high resolutions?

:roll:

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Selso2109
My computer is going to eat doom 3 and half life 2 for breakfast

Although you have a insane rig, it's still not enough for D3 with max settings.

Both of you are making equally credible statements.

:beer:
I read this, pondered for a second, then burst out laughing.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Of course I know what it does. How do you think I was able to tell the last guy that he didn't know what he was talking about when he stated that AF wasn't needed at high resolutions?

Then why the undue criticism of BFG when he stated it was increasingly important with resolution? What was the point of your post if you know that he was right in the first place?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Of course I know what it does. How do you think I was able to tell the last guy that he didn't know what he was talking about when he stated that AF wasn't needed at high resolutions?

Then why the undue criticism of BFG when he stated it was increasingly important with resolution? What was the point of your post if you know that he was right in the first place?

AF is anisotrophic filtering. It allows textures to be rendered more clearly and is especially noticable at long distances and at sharp angles. I know what it does.

I do not, however, feel the need to go back and explain the course of my conversation to you because you were unable to keep up.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Selso2109
My computer is going to eat doom 3 and half life 2 for breakfast

Although you have a insane rig, it's still not enough for D3 with max settings.

Both of you are making equally credible statements.

:beer:
I read this, pondered for a second, then burst out laughing.

hahaha
instead of hitting the gym we hit the computer shops and upgrade our warriors for the gaming battle

 

[puffpio]

I have an AXP3000(400mhz fsb) and a gig of ram..just need to swap my 5900 for a 6800gt and i'm all set. now to wait for that 6800gt to drop in price

 

[Cat]

There are benchmarks up at HardOCP, so people can make reasonably informed decisions.

 

[Special1Sauce]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Low-End:
1.5GhzP4 or equivalent
512MB Ram
Geforce4 Ti 4800 or Radeon 9500

Mid-Range:
2.4GhzP4 or equivalent
1GB RAM
Geforce5950 or Radeon 9800 Pro/XT

High-End:
3.4GhzP4 or AMD equivalent
2GB RAM
GeForce 6800 Ultra or Radeon X800 XT PE.

Lol unlikely. I highly doubt doom 3 will use over a gig of ram at full settings. Not sure where you pulled those numbers from...your ass?

Oh I believe it.

No one really knows what to expect from Doom 3 and their current config. When November rolls around people are going to know then
:beer:

 

[Markfw]

I like the hardocp stuff. Looks my x800pro gets beaten by the 6800gt. But I would like to see this done on an Athlon XP and/or Athlon64 platform since they are better in games in general. Maybe the video cards may come out different ??

Anyway, it looks like most of here (2.5 ghz and 9700pro or better, 1 gig ram) will be able to play at good frame rates.