Doomsday scenario No. 4859491556

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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It's ok to play so here we go...

Imagine an interstellar cloud (content unknown) heading toward our solar system. Upon reaching Earth it changes matter ever so slightly but in a way that conductors no longer allow the flow of electrons as we depend on. In a matter of a few seconds every single device depending on the flow of electrons is stopped. Nothing works.

People miraculously are unaffected. Little do they know what's happened. Lots of ideas and theories from electromagnetic pulse warfare to coronal mass ejections of historic proportions and their resulting geomagnetically induced currents have trashed the infrastructure.

Of course it gets deeper when even the magneto ignition Troy Bilt snow thrower no longer turns over, hand crank flashlights kept in so called shelters refuse to charge or illuminate. Piezoelectric ignition cigar lighters no longer spark (but matches work). Gas appliances depending on thermocouples no longer keep their pilot lights on.

A diesel engine that's completely mechanical should run but if it gets cold you're SOL because the glow plugs won't work.

I think it would get cold pretty fast.

Imagine having to re-engineer just about everything from scratch. Yeah you think losing the power grid to a severe solar storm is bad (and it is) but this takes the cake. Luckily it's just fiction. (but you never know, right? )
 
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My solution would be to quickly mate with the smartest woman I could find....




<awkward silence>
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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0
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So here's my generic SHTF scenario plan. Upon anything of that nature, the wife knows she is to go to the local grocery store and basically steal all the pharmacy drugs that we will need. I will be going to another store and getting all of the bottle water and canned food I can. We will rendezvous in the middle of these two stores. (not far from each other). We will then quickly evaluate the situation, if it is possible we will head toward the water (about 30 minute drive) and take out a sail boat. If this isn't going to work but we still have transportation we will take back roads up north about an hour or two. This should get us into a very unpopulated area where we can lay low for awhile.

We have a few friends whom know of our rendezvous point and are allowed to join us provided they are useful. Weapons, physical strength, certain types of intelligence are needed. If you have nothing of value to provide, you are not allowed to join our crew. If you try to follow, I kill you.
 

CurseTheSky

Diamond Member
Oct 21, 2006
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Back to steam engines!

It would definitely put a bit dent in our society, and cause major problems with utilities, food production, and most of, communication. It would launch the country (and most of the "developed" world) into a major depression / period of turmoil, but I think overall most people would be ok. Highly populated areas like major cities would be the worst, as crime and shortages would skyrocket, while rural areas would probably band together with their neighbors and go back to the "old ways" of growing their own food, cutting their own wood, etc.

And this is all one example of why, even though I live in CT, which is fairly densely populated overall, I'm glad I live in a rural area with 6.5 acres of our own, and many, many acres of forested area behind us.
 

SagaLore

Elite Member
Dec 18, 2001
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Every person with a pacemaker is dead.

Hospitals are pretty much shutdown.

Communication is at a standstill - can't even print a newspaper since its all digital now.

Most people can't cook - electric stoves obviously don't work, but even most gas stoves won't ignite since they can't create a spark.

The world would end up in a new dark age, civil war would break out, attempts at police states, government would temporarily collapse. A lot of people would starve.

The new modern era starts when scientists come up with a new energy storage and transport technology which is all photonic based.
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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485
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So here's my generic SHTF scenario plan. Upon anything of that nature, the wife knows she is to go to the local grocery store and basically steal all the pharmacy drugs that we will need. I will be going to another store and getting all of the bottle water and canned food I can. We will rendezvous in the middle of these two stores. (not far from each other). We will then quickly evaluate the situation, if it is possible we will head toward the water (about 30 minute drive) and take out a sail boat. If this isn't going to work but we still have transportation we will take back roads up north about an hour or two. This should get us into a very unpopulated area where we can lay low for awhile.

We have a few friends whom know of our rendezvous point and are allowed to join us provided they are useful. Weapons, physical strength, certain types of intelligence are needed. If you have nothing of value to provide, you are not allowed to join our crew. If you try to follow, I kill you.

Problem is psychology is not a part of this difficult scenario. Simple stockpiling and defenses may get you by for a few months. Looking forward the future isn't clear nor bright. This leads to anxiety, depression and ultimately turning to empty, mindless specters.

Even the best training in survival and will to survive will wear thin. Everyone is different and no one can last a normal lifetime.
 

SagaLore

Elite Member
Dec 18, 2001
24,037
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what if earth stopped rotating

Then the only inhabitable area would be a thin strip between the side that is always lit and the side that is always dark.

Although not sure how you would counteract the inertia of the huge mass that is rotating. Maybe you were thinking of the magnetosphere generated by the rotating earth's core?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
35,601
29,313
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Back to steam engines!

It would definitely put a bit dent in our society, and cause major problems with utilities, food production, and most of, communication. It would launch the country (and most of the "developed" world) into a major depression / period of turmoil, but I think overall most people would be ok. Highly populated areas like major cities would be the worst, as crime and shortages would skyrocket, while rural areas would probably band together with their neighbors and go back to the "old ways" of growing their own food, cutting their own wood, etc.

And this is all one example of why, even though I live in CT, which is fairly densely populated overall, I'm glad I live in a rural area with 6.5 acres of our own, and many, many acres of forested area behind us.
CT, greatest state in the nation! :thumbsup:
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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Then the only inhabitable area would be a thin strip between the side that is always lit and the side that is always dark.

Although not sure how you would counteract the inertia of the huge mass that is rotating. Maybe you were thinking of the magnetosphere generated by the rotating earth's core?

The terminator would no longer be a word used by scientists.
 

RearAdmiral

Platinum Member
Jun 24, 2004
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It's ok to play so here we go...

Imagine an interstellar cloud (content unknown) heading toward our solar system. Upon reaching Earth it changes matter ever so slightly but in a way that conductors no longer allow the flow of electrons as we depend on. In a matter of a few seconds every single device depending on the flow of electrons is stopped. Nothing works.

People miraculously are unaffected. Little do they know what's happened. Lots of ideas and theories from electromagnetic pulse warfare to coronal mass ejections of historic proportions and their resulting geomagnetically induced currents have trashed the infrastructure.

Of course it gets deeper when even the magneto ignition Troy Bilt snow thrower no longer turns over, hand crank flashlights kept in so called shelters refuse to charge or illuminate. Piezoelectric ignition cigar lighters no longer spark (but matches work). Gas appliances depending on thermocouples no longer keep their pilot lights on.

A diesel engine that's completely mechanical should run but if it gets cold you're SOL because the glow plugs won't work.

I think it would get cold pretty fast.

Imagine having to re-engineer just about everything from scratch. Yeah you think losing the power grid to a severe solar storm is bad (and it is) but this takes the cake. Luckily it's just fiction. (but you never know, right? )

Good. Surplus population needs to be reduced.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
11,757
0
71
Problem is psychology is not a part of this difficult scenario. Simple stockpiling and defenses may get you by for a few months. Looking forward the future isn't clear nor bright. This leads to anxiety, depression and ultimately turning to empty, mindless specters.

Even the best training in survival and will to survive will wear thin. Everyone is different and no one can last a normal lifetime.

You're right. As long as I have my wife though, I'll be happy. I have no problem with living off the land, hanging out, making camp, fishing, hunting and staying off the grid.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
29,933
3
81
So here's my generic SHTF scenario plan. Upon anything of that nature, the wife knows she is to go to the local grocery store and basically steal all the pharmacy drugs that we will need. I will be going to another store and getting all of the bottle water and canned food I can. We will rendezvous in the middle of these two stores. (not far from each other). We will then quickly evaluate the situation, if it is possible we will head toward the water (about 30 minute drive) and take out a sail boat. If this isn't going to work but we still have transportation we will take back roads up north about an hour or two. This should get us into a very unpopulated area where we can lay low for awhile.

We have a few friends whom know of our rendezvous point and are allowed to join us provided they are useful. Weapons, physical strength, certain types of intelligence are needed. If you have nothing of value to provide, you are not allowed to join our crew. If you try to follow, I kill you.

lol thats not a plan its a death sentence. you and everyone else will be raiding the neareast stores . good luck with that.
 
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