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Clinkster

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Can someone explain to me why Brazilian and Russian people always play on US East?

They have their own servers. All they do is ruin games on US East with no English skills and terrible ping.

My friend asked a Russian player why he was playing on our server. The Russian responded by saying their servers are filled with trolls, feeders, and leavers. There were virtually no good games to be had there.
 

tokie

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My friend asked a Russian player why he was playing on our server. The Russian responded by saying their servers are filled with trolls, feeders, and leavers. There were virtually no good games to be had there.

Odd, because when Russians play on USEast then by definition the game is full of a troll spamming a non American language.
 

drebo

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Feb 24, 2006
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Honestly, I've only been playing for a few weeks. I was terrified to play my first pub game because everything I read was "You suck" and "You'll never be good at this game" and "Everyone will troll you because you suck so bad".

So I spent like 3 weeks playing bot games, learning a couple of heroes pretty well. I watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of guides.

Then I did my first MM pub game. And played with people who didn't even bother getting boots. And I stomped them.

So now I'm not scared to play pub games anymore.

The thing is, though, that at the very, very low skill games, there's no teamwork. There's no coordination. So if you spend time playing bot games and you know what you're doing, playing a support hero is wasted. Just play a carry and steal all the last hits and roflstomp your opponents. With the right carry, you can seriously just own the fuck out of their entire team if they're bad enough.
 

Olikan

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The thing is, though, that at the very, very low skill games, there's no teamwork. There's no coordination. So if you spend time playing bot games and you know what you're doing, playing a support hero is wasted. Just play a carry and steal all the last hits and roflstomp your opponents. With the right carry, you can seriously just own the fuck out of their entire team if they're bad enough.

no...show how badass you are, and roflstomp them with a support hero

Enchantress with Mask of Madness and Aghanim's Scepter is really scary
 

tokie

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I have 13 invites if anyone wants one -- send me a PM with your Steam account.
 

Hmongkeysauce

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Honestly, I've only been playing for a few weeks. I was terrified to play my first pub game because everything I read was "You suck" and "You'll never be good at this game" and "Everyone will troll you because you suck so bad".

So I spent like 3 weeks playing bot games, learning a couple of heroes pretty well. I watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of guides.

Then I did my first MM pub game. And played with people who didn't even bother getting boots. And I stomped them.

So now I'm not scared to play pub games anymore.

The thing is, though, that at the very, very low skill games, there's no teamwork. There's no coordination. So if you spend time playing bot games and you know what you're doing, playing a support hero is wasted. Just play a carry and steal all the last hits and roflstomp your opponents. With the right carry, you can seriously just own the fuck out of their entire team if they're bad enough.

There is very little to non-existent teamwork in any pub game unless you are queuing as a team. Most MM games will have 1 or more players random heroes which destroys any potential for teamwork. The game is still fun, but I would not recommend solo pubbing if you are looking for any type of teamwork.
 

BergeLSU

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Honestly, I've only been playing for a few weeks. I was terrified to play my first pub game because everything I read was "You suck" and "You'll never be good at this game" and "Everyone will troll you because you suck so bad".

So I spent like 3 weeks playing bot games, learning a couple of heroes pretty well. I watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of guides.

Then I did my first MM pub game. And played with people who didn't even bother getting boots. And I stomped them

That's because you had the knowledge of playing bots first. People jump in and play MM thinking they can either learn on the run or that they already know DOTA (I was the latter). New players will jump on MM, get stomped a few times, say this game sucks/too complicated, and move on.

So now I'm not scared to play pub games anymore.

The thing is, though, that at the very, very low skill games, there's no teamwork. There's no coordination. So if you spend time playing bot games and you know what you're doing, playing a support hero is wasted. Just play a carry and steal all the last hits and roflstomp your opponents. With the right carry, you can seriously just own the fuck out of their entire team if they're bad enough.

This happens sometimes in any skill level. After a few days/week, the MM system should move to a more appropriate skill level. Don't get into the mindset that you have to play a carry or that playing support is ever wasted. This is actually what happens that ruins higher MM bracket games. Stereotypical guy who thinks he's too good for his team picks the 4th carry on the team because he's not wasting his "skill" playing support.

I personally think playing support is more difficult because it requires more from you.
 

smackababy

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That's because you had the knowledge of playing bots first. People jump in and play MM thinking they can either learn on the run or that they already know DOTA (I was the latter). New players will jump on MM, get stomped a few times, say this game sucks/too complicated, and move on.



This happens sometimes in any skill level. After a few days/week, the MM system should move to a more appropriate skill level. Don't get into the mindset that you have to play a carry or that playing support is ever wasted. This is actually what happens that ruins higher MM bracket games. Stereotypical guy who thinks he's too good for his team picks the 4th carry on the team because he's not wasting his "skill" playing support.

I personally think playing support is more difficult because it requires more from you.
Ask any pro player. Playing support is harder than a carry. You've only got to worry about farming an not dying as a carry. As a support you have to roam, not get babysat, be lowerer level on average, ward, and buy items to support.
 

Piotrsama

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Started playing 10 days ago.

Noticed the game is loading my CPU & GPU way too much.
CPU Temps go from: 35°C idle.... up to 80+ playing the game. (according to core temp)
GPU temps go from 55 to 95. (GPU-Z sensors)

They have some serious optimizations/tweakings to do....
Are you guys having the same problem?
 
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thejunglegod

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My temps remain fine. However, I get drastic framerate drops during gameplay. Yet to figure out why that is.


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fustercluck

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I found a character I like pretty well (Axe) but still suck at the game overall. I don't understand why all those creatures are in the jungle...one of the many things I don't understand.

The main problem I have with the game is that matches takes forever, all games last 40 mins to an hour. My attention span is SHORT. I wish they would tweak the game to make matches last like 20-40 minutes..like increasing the experience gained, and make items cheaper or something. But, that's just me. They don't have to please me, they have to please Dota fans, which I am not.
 

Olikan

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I found a character I like pretty well (Axe) but still suck at the game overall. I don't understand why all those creatures are in the jungle...one of the many things I don't understand.

those creatures have lot's of uses...
you can kill them for xp/gold
you can control them with chen, enchantress and helm of the dominator
you can pull them to kill your creeps denying xp/gold to enemy, or simply to control the lane
you can steal theyr spells with doom

Axe is very good at killing them
 

BergeLSU

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I found a character I like pretty well (Axe) but still suck at the game overall. I don't understand why all those creatures are in the jungle...one of the many things I don't understand.

The main problem I have with the game is that matches takes forever, all games last 40 mins to an hour. My attention span is SHORT. I wish they would tweak the game to make matches last like 20-40 minutes..like increasing the experience gained, and make items cheaper or something. But, that's just me. They don't have to please me, they have to please Dota fans, which I am not.


The WC3 DOTA had -em, which was "easy mode." It increased the passive gold gain and xp gained from creeps (I think maybe the gold gotten from creeps, too, but I'm not sure). It ended up that by 25-30 minutes, everyone would be level 25, thus shortening the game.
 

fustercluck

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The WC3 DOTA had -em, which was "easy mode." It increased the passive gold gain and xp gained from creeps (I think maybe the gold gotten from creeps, too, but I'm not sure). It ended up that by 25-30 minutes, everyone would be level 25, thus shortening the game.

Yeah that sounds more like my preferred game length
 

BergeLSU

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Yeah that sounds more like my preferred game length


Mine, too, but after playing hundreds of games, I think I get why a lot of people hate it: it ends up not having the same balance.

If everyone gets more xp and gold, a 5-carry team can then become viable.
 

smackababy

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I wouldn't lane as Axe. The jungle is where he belongs and until you get good at pulling, stacking, and knowing which creeps you can easily defeat, I'd stick to not jungling.

Also, a 40 minute game isn't considered long in Dota. That is about average length. Those 80 minute games where one team turtles and refuses to lose are the long ones.
 

xAlias

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I wouldn't lane as Axe. The jungle is where he belongs and until you get good at pulling, stacking, and knowing which creeps you can easily defeat, I'd stick to not jungling.

Also, a 40 minute game isn't considered long in Dota. That is about average length. Those 80 minute games where one team turtles and refuses to lose are the long ones.

80 min games are pretty rare to be honest.

Normally most games are within 40 to 50 mins on an average.
 

drebo

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I wouldn't lane as Axe. The jungle is where he belongs and until you get good at pulling, stacking, and knowing which creeps you can easily defeat, I'd stick to not jungling.

Also, a 40 minute game isn't considered long in Dota. That is about average length. Those 80 minute games where one team turtles and refuses to lose are the long ones.

The point of jungling with axe is that it frees up another solo lane for someone else. If you don't have two heroes who are both capable of soloing a lane, then you shouldn't be jungling with axe...you should be laning.
 

Clinkster

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I wouldn't lane as Axe. The jungle is where he belongs and until you get good at pulling, stacking, and knowing which creeps you can easily defeat, I'd stick to not jungling.

Depending on the teammate, you could go to the side lane where you're further from tower (radiant top, dire bottom) and creep skip.

The WC3 DOTA had -em, which was "easy mode." It increased the passive gold gain and xp gained from creeps (I think maybe the gold gotten from creeps, too, but I'm not sure). It ended up that by 25-30 minutes, everyone would be level 25, thus shortening the game.

I'm ashamed on how long I spent playing -em. The mode is a joke balance wise. Just pick carries and win.
 

Peter Nixeus

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When playing Carries against a good team - be careful...

My friends and I when we see someone choose a strong end game carry like Drow or Sniper, we will keep ganking him to prevent him from getting too strong... you usually have to end the game by the 30 minute mark - or else the Sven, Drow or Sniper (or any strong carry) will take out your whole team...
 
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BergeLSU

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I wouldn't lane as Axe. The jungle is where he belongs and until you get good at pulling, stacking, and knowing which creeps you can easily defeat, I'd stick to not jungling.

Also, a 40 minute game isn't considered long in Dota. That is about average length. Those 80 minute games where one team turtles and refuses to lose are the long ones.


Completely disagree. Put a Soul Ring on Axe in lane, and you've won that lane against most pubs with battle hunger.

I consider him one of the best laners. Pubs don't know how to handle being hungered.
 

Chiropteran

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Started playing 10 days ago.

Noticed the game is loading my CPU & GPU way too much.
CPU Temps go from: 35°C idle.... up to 80+ playing the game. (according to core temp)
GPU temps go from 55 to 95. (GPU-Z sensors)

They have some serious optimizations/tweakings to do....
Are you guys having the same problem?

I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but DOTA2 actually occasionally freezes my PC, such that I need to do a hard reboot. Generally my gaming PC has been 100% stable otherwise, but it seems to lock up like that in DOTA 2 about once every couple dozen games. and nothing else. I even bitcoin mine, stressing the GPU to the max for days at a time and it remains perfectly stable, but somehow DOTA2 causes it to freeze.

Odd thing is it almost never happens in a game, but usually at the end when the scoreboard comes up or if I leave the game running in the menus.

Even still, it doesn't happen that often.
 

blackdogdeek

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I'd like to get into dota2. If I get an invite do I just download the game client from steam?

Also, anyone who is experiencing performance issues, what are you running in your rigs?

Thanks!
 

Peter Nixeus

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I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but DOTA2 actually occasionally freezes my PC, such that I need to do a hard reboot. Generally my gaming PC has been 100% stable otherwise, but it seems to lock up like that in DOTA 2 about once every couple dozen games. and nothing else. I even bitcoin mine, stressing the GPU to the max for days at a time and it remains perfectly stable, but somehow DOTA2 causes it to freeze.

Odd thing is it almost never happens in a game, but usually at the end when the scoreboard comes up or if I leave the game running in the menus.

Even still, it doesn't happen that often.

DOTA 2 is still in BETA - it will cause glitches, freezes, and other issues.
 
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