Please articulate why the approx 20 other states that have a similar law and the federal govt aren't being boycotted.
TIA
Fern
Welp, you caught us.
Us lefties are only boycotting Indiana because we hate this country and everything it stands for.
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This is just the news item of the week. Next week nobody will care anymore because not a single business in Indiana will have oppressed the gays from their workplace. Just have to wait the outrage out. It will pass just like 90+% of other recent outrages.
On the other hand, we love Saudi Arabia and everything it stands for, because, uh, something.
Yeah, we're the unreasonable ones.
We oppose, for example:
1. The President exceeding his Constitutional authority in enacting/changing legislation. It's not like Obama himself said many times publicly that he lacked the Constitutional authority to do so with the immigration issue.
2. The inexplicable shift in policy against our allies, whether it be Mubarak or Israel.
3. The (attempted) creation of a new paradigm to circumvent the Constitution and cut the Legislative branch out of the treaty process by using the UN. Calling it something other than a "treaty" doesn't even supply the 'fig leaf' hoped for. As the courts have long upheld, a thing it what it is based upon its substance, not something as superficial as the name its given.
Yeah, we're the nutty ones.
Fern
Because of oil?
Leftist like to think rights do not exist outside the United States.
When it comes down to it money talks and everything else is BS. Leftist are not going to boycott exxon, apple, microsoft,,, or anyone else that makes money.
While conservatives hold our values true to our hearts, leftist sell their morals and values to the highest bidder.
Please articulate why the approx 20 other states that have a similar law and the federal govt aren't being boycotted.
TIA
Fern
a partnership, a limited liability company, a corporation, a company, a firm, a society, a joint stock company, or an unincorporated association.
Please articulate why the approx 20 other states that have a similar law and the federal govt aren't being boycotted.
TIA
Fern
Posting in a Riprorin thread...
Posting in a Riprorin thread...
Because of oil?
Leftist like to think rights do not exist outside the United States.
When it comes down to it money talks and everything else is BS. Leftist are not going to boycott exxon, apple, microsoft,,, or anyone else that makes money.
While conservatives hold our values true to our hearts, leftist sell their morals and values to the highest bidder.
Lets boycott Indiana but lets keep doing business with Saudi Arabia.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ile-doing-business-with-gay-hating-countries/
Why the double standard? Is the left afraid to demand equal rights from Saudi Arabia and other nations that are unfriendly to gays?
When are we going to see boycotts of Exxon?
http://www.exxonmobil.com.sa/ksa-English/PA/default.aspx
When is the left going to boycott products made in Malaysia?
When is the left going to end the double standard and demand equal rights from nations just as they demand equal rights from states?
Because of oil?
Leftist like to think rights do not exist outside the United States.
When it comes down to it money talks and everything else is BS. Leftist are not going to boycott exxon, apple, microsoft,,, or anyone else that makes money.
While conservatives hold our values true to our hearts, leftist sell their morals and values to the highest bidder.
Did you post this to the right thread?
What does Obama/UN treaties/ immigration have to do with Indiana and Mike Pense?
Please articulate why the approx 20 other states that have a similar law and the federal govt aren't being boycotted.
TIA
Fern
It's very simple. All of the other states and the federal law is limited to individuals only. The Indiana law explicitly extended protections to for profit businesses, corporations etc...
Then, unlike other states, they stated that the RFRA could be used in civil defenses where the government was not a party.
This is why the Indiana law is fundamentally different, contrary to the repeated claims by the right that it's the same. You think its a coincidence that the Indiana legislature added in the ability to use it in civil defenses immediately after the photographer in New Mexico lost his case for refusing services to gays? The trial judge ruled that the RFRA was not a vałid defense since the government was not a party to the suit.
1) This law includes businesses and corporations.
2) It appears to be an offensive move to counter the SCOTUS's likely ruling of making state laws banning same sex marriage unconstitutional.
3) Its intent. The laws intent is clear to all but the most bigoted of hacks, that this laws intention was to allow businesses to descriminate against LGBT people (all one needs to do is look at Pence's past comments and positions as well as simply look at who was present at the signing of the law).
A good article on the differences:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ndiana-law-the-same-as-a-law-backed-by-obama/
It's odd, up until a few years ago Fern was thoughtful, interesting, and reasonable. At some point he started going more and more to the right. It first seemed to show up when he latched on to the birther stuff.
Now he's gone into Fox News/right wing talk radio territory. Not only is that unrelated ranting, but it's not even remotely accurate unrelated ranting.
I could make analogous statements about you too, sir. In fact, I did make this point about you several months ago.
Then, unlike other states, they stated that the RFRA could be used in civil defenses where the government was not a party.
Look, the CHRISTIAN right has it's panties in a wad because of the march of progress that's provided new protections to the LBGT community and they are pissed that they are losing there right to discriminate. With each state that legalizes gay marriage the right forms another religious circle jerk and conjures up new attempts to forestall the inevitable.
I was really beginning to think the White House might fall to the republicans again but the actions of right wing wacko's have once again put the potential republican contenders in the position of supporting bigotry in order to win the nomination. Looks like the right is taking themselves out of the game.
Now if only we could find someone the wasn't Hillary -- she's no Democrat...
Brian