Double standard on gay tolerance / intolerance

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Patranus

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I think those who believe this law is disgusting undermine their position when they go on to vandalize Yelp and dox the daughter.
 

JSt0rm

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I think those who believe this law is disgusting undermine their position when they go on to vandalize Yelp and dox the daughter.


People are free to say whatever they want. They are not free from suffering the consequences of that speech.
 

Patranus

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People are free to say whatever they want. They are not free from suffering the consequences of that speech.

Its called harassment.

And doxing the daughter because you don't agree with their parents political decisions is ok and/or they shouldn't face consequences?

Of course there will be no repercussions on the ongoing harassment brought on the daughter because her contact information was published because it doesn't fit the narrative. Be as dirty and slimy as you want as long as it agrees with SJW politics.
 

JSt0rm

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if those people have the freedom to say that they refuse to serve gays then others have the freedom to organize boycotts of that restaurant. As for the doxing well thats the internet for you. Im surprised they havent been swated yet.
 

feralkid

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Its called harassment.

And doxing the daughter because you don't agree with their parents political decisions is ok and/or they shouldn't face consequences?

Of course there will be no repercussions on the ongoing harassment brought on the daughter because her contact information was published because it doesn't fit the narrative. Be as dirty and slimy as you want as long as it agrees with SJW politics.

You just can't stop saying Dox, can you?

Did you just learn that word today and couldn't wait to wave it around?

 

schmuckley

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"Lets boycott Indiana but lets keep doing business with Saudi Arabia."


I just saw Connecticut banned travel to Indiana. These leftwits won't ban Ebola travel but they'll ban travel to a state because of a law that they themselves also have - like CT:



Connecticut General Statutes section 52-571b
(current as of 2001)

Sec. 52-571b. Action or defense authorized when state or political subdivision burdens a person's exercise of religion.

(a) The state or any political subdivision of the state shall not burden a person's exercise of religion under section 3 of article first of the constitution of the state even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in subsection (b) of this section.

(b) The state or any political subdivision of the state may burden a person's exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person (1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest, and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.

(c) A person whose exercise of religion has been burdened in violation of the provisions of this section may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding and obtain appropriate relief against the state or any political subdivision of the state.

(d) Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize the state or any political subdivision of the state to burden any religious belief.

(e) Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect, interpret or in any way address that portion of article seventh of the constitution of the state that prohibits any law giving a preference to any religious society or denomination in the state. The granting of government funding, benefits or exemptions, to the extent permissible under the constitution of the state, shall not constitute a violation of this section. As used in this subsection, the term "granting" does not include the denial of government funding, benefits or exemptions.

(f) For the purposes of this section, "state or any political subdivision of the state" includes any agency, board, commission, department, officer or employee of the state or any political subdivision of the state, and "demonstrates" means meets the burdens of going forward with the evidence and of persuasion.

http://essexuu.org/ctstat.html

About that..their own version of same law is more stringent that the one in Indiana :awe:
 

zinfamous

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About that..their own version of same law is more stringent that the one in Indiana :awe:

wow, you guys really are fucking illiterate, aren't you?

All of the facts and evidence shoved in your face, over and over again, about how unique this law is from the others, and you still refuse to accept how demonstrably wrong you are.

Why is it so important to mask your true hate for homosexuals by hiding behind "democratic laws!", that you have to reject any and all attempts to be properly informed about the issues that you face?
 

zinfamous

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Of all the countries in the world, Saudi Arabia is one of the ones I think we should be boycotting the most. They have horrible human rights abuses.

We should only trade with countries that have good human rights and worker rights records. Anybody else should be banished to the corner, left to stew and simmer until they are ready to join the world stage.

all dat oil, tho!



nevermind that the Royal Saudi wassabi-ists sect are the ones that bred all of the islamic terrorists in the world....the America-hatin' terrorists especially...that oil!
 
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ivwshane

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Hey look! Another dumb fuck agreeing with a mental patient, who would have thought?

I'll post a link that explains the differences between Indiana's law and Connecticut's law (just like I posted the differences for another forum idiot, who hasn't reappeared) but it won't do anything.

http://wtnh.com/2015/04/01/connecti...ration-act-several-differences-from-indianas/


About that..their own version of same law is more stringent that the one in Indiana :awe:


People sure love being stupid:awe:
 

Brian Stirling

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Its called harassment.

And doxing the daughter because you don't agree with their parents political decisions is ok and/or they shouldn't face consequences?

Of course there will be no repercussions on the ongoing harassment brought on the daughter because her contact information was published because it doesn't fit the narrative. Be as dirty and slimy as you want as long as it agrees with SJW politics.


What's wrong with you -- were you doxed as a child?

There are morons that take things too far and there are going to be those that grab at any topic to be an asshole -- nothing new here.

The other day there was a post about the bad parking job of the DC delegate and Roll Call posted video of it. The comments section read like a pep rally for the KKK with not one or a few but many, in fact the majority of comments sounding like they would prefer slavery's return.


Brian
 

schmuckley

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wow, you guys really are fucking illiterate, aren't you?

All of the facts and evidence shoved in your face, over and over again, about how unique this law is from the others, and you still refuse to accept how demonstrably wrong you are.

Why is it so important to mask your true hate for homosexuals by hiding behind "democratic laws!", that you have to reject any and all attempts to be properly informed about the issues that you face?

Here's the facts: The Indiana Law:
https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/101#document-92bab197


originally mirrored this one:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000bb-1

Oh..and the Connecticut version:


http://essexuu.org/ctstat.html

They look pretty similar to me.The Indiana one goes into quite a bit more detail;probably unnecessarily so.Judge for yourself from the information provided.

I don't hate homosexuals,but I'll be damned if they're going to dictate what I say or do;Whether in business or life or whatever.
I do work for gay people;My name gets passed around the gay community here in town...in a good way.
However, I don't do weddings or cakes.
They are people.I have no problems with how they live their lives or have their sex.
Treat me nice,I'll treat you nice.
Don't try to force me to condone it, though.
If you do;You get a big NO.
I can refuse service to anyone I don't want to work for;Everyone in America should have the same freedom.
I won't get sued or anything.Will.not.happen.
 
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ivwshane

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Another righty incapable of understanding context.

You can't fix stupid.
 

schmuckley

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Another righty incapable of understanding context.

You can't fix stupid.
No you can't;Therefore you are forever broken.
asshat shill.
Keep dreaming that what you post on a tech site msg board politics section is influential.

LOL
 
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zinfamous

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No you can't;Therefore you are forever broken.
asshat shill.
Keep dreaming that what you post on a tech site msg board politics section is influential.

LOL

And keep dreaming that you're literate, and that people take you seriously.

...they laugh at you after you leave the party. You realize that, don't you?
 

schmuckley

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I'm quite literate,just because because i don't always respond with: "You're wrong,fucktard"
doesn't mean I didn't see what you typed.
aka:
"wow, you guys really are fucking illiterate, aren't you?"
Why is people like you always lead with some kind of attempt to demean/diminish someone's intelligence?
I know why:It's called "Attempt to marginalize"
Standard shill tactics.
ha ha let me rephrase: H4r H4r
a) You are not smarter than me.
b) You are on the wrong side of how things actually are.
c) You are promoting disinformation.
d) I do not intend to be taken super-seriously on a tech site political blog.
e) You do.It's your job.
 
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ivwshane

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Oh you are "literate" alright, it's just you don't fucking understand what you read because you are stupid.

It's why when people post facts that contradict your posts, you double down on stupid and keep repeating stupid and instead of countering with facts. You then pretend that the posts and threads you respond to don't matter.

You are a joke of a poster whose posts border on trolling and crazy.

If you get tired of being called stupid then stop posting stupid shit

I'm quite literate,just because because i don't always respond with: "You're wrong,fucktard"
doesn't mean I didn't see what you typed.
aka:
"wow, you guys really are fucking illiterate, aren't you?"
Why is people like you always lead with some kind of attempt to demean/diminish someone's intelligence?
I know why:It's called "Attempt to marginalize"
Standard shill tactics.
ha ha let me rephrase: H4r H4r
a) You are not smarter than me.
b) You are on the wrong side of how things actually are.
c) You are promoting disinformation.
d) I do not intend to be taken super-seriously on a tech site political blog.
e) You do.It's your job.
 

schmuckley

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Aug 18, 2011
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Oh you are "literate" alright, it's just you don't fucking understand what you read because you are stupid.

It's why when people post facts that contradict your posts, you double down on stupid and keep repeating stupid and instead of countering with facts. You then pretend that the posts and threads you respond to don't matter.

You are a joke of a poster whose posts border on trolling and crazy.

If you get tired of being called stupid then stop posting stupid shit

Your "news" link does not coincide with the actual amendment.
Do you understand that?
Do you know what "slanting" is?
I'm sure you do, because you do it every minute you're around.
Do you know the definition of stupid?
It's "Knowing better,but doing it anyway"
This sir,defines you.
You know better.You know you're spinning,deflecting,spreading misinformation, and insulting,but you do it anyway.
That=You are stupid.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Your "news" link does not coincide with the actual amendment.
Do you understand that?
Do you know what "slanting" is?
I'm sure you do, because you do it every minute you're around.
Do you know the definition of stupid?
It's "Knowing better,but doing it anyway"
This sir,defines you.
You know better.You know you're spinning,deflecting,spreading misinformation, and insulting,but you do it anyway.
That=You are stupid.

Did you read the link? Can you summarize the differences the article pointed out? Can you then provide proof that the article is wrong?

No? Then troll harder bitch


Oh and thanks for proving my point! I couldn't have asked for a better response from you.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'm quite literate,just because because i don't always respond with: "You're wrong,fucktard"
doesn't mean I didn't see what you typed.
aka:
"wow, you guys really are fucking illiterate, aren't you?"
Why is people like you always lead with some kind of attempt to demean/diminish someone's intelligence?
I know why:It's called "Attempt to marginalize"
Standard shill tactics.
ha ha let me rephrase: H4r H4r
a) You are not smarter than me.
b) You are on the wrong side of how things actually are.
c) You are promoting disinformation.

d) I do not intend to be taken super-seriously on a tech site political blog.
e) You do.It's your job.

lmfao!



so, directly lying about the language in legislation and passing it off as truth as you do, is not promoting disinformation?

seriously, this is why you are illiterate: your handlers told you what to think, and you pass it off as truth. I know you are waiting for them to tell you how to respond, so I'll be patient.

or well, you can turn to your corporate overlords, on whose phalli you so gloriously suck, and ask them why they are upset with the language in this bill, and the one that was just squashed in Arkansas, because of the unique problems that are not found in any other comparable state law.

Maybe you should explain why their teams of lawyers, that pour over this text for weeks, have significant issues with these two bills compared to bills in other states. Tell them why you are right, and they are wrong.
 
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bshole

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Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

If God is down with cock sucking why aren't you?
 

Brian Stirling

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PHP:
Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

If God is down with cock sucking why aren't you?


It amazing how worked up right wing wacko's get and how often they speak as if they have god's support when they attack the rights of others. They pat each other on the back in a kind of circle jerk.

I'm not much of an absolutist but I feel confident in saying that 100% of people spouting the word of god to justify bigotry will never get to heaven!!!


Brian
 

glenn1

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Please articulate why the approx 20 other states that have a similar law and the federal govt aren't being boycotted.

TIA

Fern

1) This law includes businesses and corporations.

2) It appears to be an offensive move to counter the SCOTUS's likely ruling of making state laws banning same sex marriage unconstitutional.

3) Its intent. The laws intent is clear to all but the most bigoted of hacks, that this laws intention was to allow businesses to descriminate against LGBT people (all one needs to do is look at Pence's past comments and positions as well as simply look at who was present at the signing of the law).

On #1, so what? SCOTUS already ruled on this in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby.

On #2, I don't know how you come to that conclusion. The law has nothing to dow ith gay marriage as far as I can tell.

On #3, discrimination would already be covered by public accommodation laws so it's moot.
 

werepossum

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One of the most interesting things about this law is its possible unintended consequences. Muslims could use this to avoid having to sell pork products or alcohol, pick up blind people with seeing eye dogs, or wait on Jews. Could Indiana become the new destination of choice for Somalia immigrants? And if so, how loud will be the screams from the same Christians defending someone's right to not handle gay weddings?

We're talking about 2 to 4% of the population, folks, so after the initial rush of gay weddings we're talking one per twenty-five or even one per fifty. For Christ's sake, suck it up and treat them like everyone else. Literally for Christ's sake. This is my side of the aisle, and I'm telling you that if you don't want more government intrusion into your lives, you have to treat everyone the same.
 

fskimospy

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On #1, so what? SCOTUS already ruled on this in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby.

It did not rule that. It ruled that Hobby Lobby's decision to deny contraceptive coverage was protected under the federal RFRA, which exclusively deals with dealings between private entities and the government.

This law also covers dealings exclusively between two private entities.

That makes it quite a bit different, don't you agree?

On #2, I don't know how you come to that conclusion. The law has nothing to dow ith gay marriage as far as I can tell.

He probably came to that conclusion when the people drafting the law explicitly rejected proposed amendments that said it couldn't be used to discriminate against gay people.

On #3, discrimination would already be covered by public accommodation laws so it's moot.

As Hobby Lobby showed, this is not necessarily true.
 
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