Douche in a GTO

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IcePickFreak

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That's pretty much all the driver. I've been to places where the crowd is much worse for cheering people on to do burn-outs etc in dumb places. I've seen bystanders with bottles of bleach standing by even. In the end it's strictly up to the driver to do something or not, and by choosing to do it around a bunch of random people like that you're just setting yourself up for youtube worthy failure. Besides, since when is smoking the tires on a RWD car around a corner impressive? You can do that with an underpowered rwd puddle-jumper.

Best case scenario is he probably would of not crashed his car but got a ticket since there's cops all over the place. If they have to dedicate the man-hours to direct traffic, it's pretty likely they'll dedicate a few more officers on patrol to issue tickets (it's nearly guaranteed at this event from all the vid's I've seen) to recoup some of their expenses.
 

IcePickFreak

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I used to work right next to HRE Wheels in Vista, CA. One day 4 cars showed up next door so I walked out back to talk with the owners and generally just gawk at the cars. There was a modified Porsche Carrera GT, a Lamborghini Gallardo, a Ferrari F430, and (saving the best for last) a Maserati MC12. The guy in the Carrera GT was giving rides to a couple of the guys at HRE Wheels and then he was doing donuts with it in the back lot.

I'm sure if he binned it there would have been lawsuits and cops and amberlamps involved.

It was pretty cool to watch though I'll admit that.

Doing donuts in a parking lot with the owners approval is a bit different that trying to drift around a cop with curbs and people all over the place.
 

JulesMaximus

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Doing donuts in a parking lot with the owners approval is a bit different that trying to drift around a cop with curbs and people all over the place.

Oh, I completely agree. I can see the appeal of being a bystander at some of these events.

And that guy has some stones for throwing a half million dollar car around like a rag doll too.
 

CVSiN

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lol I swear ATG is more about not driving and having fun than anything else.

You guys must have been some introverted teenagers.

They say around REAL DRIVERS the only people that haven't wrecked are those that don't drive WELL!

fixed.

never crashed a car on the track or in 27 years of being a motorhead with fast cars..
Now I have wrecked bikes but that's not what you said =P
 

alkemyst

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That's pretty much all the driver. I've been to places where the crowd is much worse for cheering people on to do burn-outs etc in dumb places. I've seen bystanders with bottles of bleach standing by even. In the end it's strictly up to the driver to do something or not, and by choosing to do it around a bunch of random people like that you're just setting yourself up for youtube worthy failure. Besides, since when is smoking the tires on a RWD car around a corner impressive? You can do that with an underpowered rwd puddle-jumper.

Best case scenario is he probably would of not crashed his car but got a ticket since there's cops all over the place. If they have to dedicate the man-hours to direct traffic, it's pretty likely they'll dedicate a few more officers on patrol to issue tickets (it's nearly guaranteed at this event from all the vid's I've seen) to recoup some of their expenses.

The funny part is usually out of these videos it's others that care so much and not so much the driver.

I was at Moroso and one of the 9 second Supras went flying off the track and sunk in the canal next to the track.

The guy was on the phone trying to source a new car as soon as he got out.

The hillbillies were all clowning on him because he was a black guy.

The problem was before his race an old muscle car blew it's engine and they didn't scrub the track good enough.

I have wrecked my cars and it's not a big deal as long as you could afford to drive that way to begin with.

Like I have said in many threads, people want to see people fail rather than be helpful to their plights.
 

alkemyst

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I used to work right next to HRE Wheels in Vista, CA. One day 4 cars showed up next door so I walked out back to talk with the owners and generally just gawk at the cars. There was a modified Porsche Carrera GT, a Lamborghini Gallardo, a Ferrari F430, and (saving the best for last) a Maserati MC12. The guy in the Carrera GT was giving rides to a couple of the guys at HRE Wheels and then he was doing donuts with it in the back lot.

I'm sure if he binned it there would have been lawsuits and cops and amberlamps involved.

It was pretty cool to watch though I'll admit that.

Being more than likely private property the cops wouldn't be able to do much. Lawsuits on the other hand are alway possible.
 

IcePickFreak

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The funny part is usually out of these videos it's others that care so much and not so much the driver.

I was at Moroso and one of the 9 second Supras went flying off the track and sunk in the canal next to the track.

The guy was on the phone trying to source a new car as soon as he got out.

The hillbillies were all clowning on him because he was a black guy.

The problem was before his race an old muscle car blew it's engine and they didn't scrub the track good enough.

I have wrecked my cars and it's not a big deal as long as you could afford to drive that way to begin with.

Like I have said in many threads, people want to see people fail rather than be helpful to their plights.

Yeah when something happens at the track, more often than not it's just the circumstances more-so than an idiot driver. I mean I've seen a few idiots at the track, but usually it's just a consequence of running a car all out - ie. what you're at the track for. I've seen some really poorly prepped tracks that are an accident waiting to happen too.
 

EightySix Four

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There's a combination of things at play in this video.

Should the driver have done what he did? No.
Does shit sometimes happen? Yes.
Will the guy learn from it? One can only hope.

Yeah, the car got away, he got traction and it threw him into a tree. It's unfortunate that shit like that happens to nice cars and nice guys just as often as it does shit cars and assholes. He was enjoying himself and screwed up. Making fun of him and calling him a douche does nothing for anyone because we don't know him. I hope he learned not to do it in a location where others could be injured, but that's all I have to say about it.
 

7window

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I have been to many of those events. Cars and coffee. Lots of nice cars. I would not be spectating where those kids almost got hit by a corvette. Its just dumb to stand there.

As far as people who are encouraging the burnouts, burnouts are the best part of the show. I am guilty of it but I dont scream and encourage the driver. Thats the reason why so many people stand on the exit is to watch burnouts.

When someone gets into an accident its not funny. The guys are putting on a show and no reason to laugh at them when they hit a pole.
 

Pinepig

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Yeah, the car got away, he got traction and it threw him into a tree.


I wish you guys would quit saying this, he didn't get traction, he lost it and when the back started coming around he freaked out and lifted his foot off the gas ( the dead giveaway is the fact he didn't leave 50yrds of rubber exiting that corner which the GTO should do without effort ). It snapped back the other way and his momentum carried him off the road.

If he would have stayed in it just a bit longer all would have went well ( except for the motor officer that was already moving after him ).

Please guys, learn from his mistake, go find a nice empty parking lot when it's a bit wet ( so it will happen at lower speeds ) and try it. let the back end get going and then snap you foot right off the gas, then try it again staying on it ( you'll end up doing a doughnut ) A happy medium between the two will allow you to look like a boss.

Please do some reading on weight transfer and contact patch so you actually understand what is happening. Read extra for FWD or RWD rear engine cars, they behave slightly different but the outcome is basically the same.
 

7window

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I wish you guys would quit saying this, he didn't get traction, he lost it and when the back started coming around he freaked out and lifted his foot off the gas ( the dead giveaway is the fact he didn't leave 50yrds of rubber exiting that corner which the GTO should do without effort ). It snapped back the other way and his momentum carried him off the road.

If he would have stayed in it just a bit longer all would have went well ( except for the motor officer that was already moving after him ).

Please guys, learn from his mistake, go find a nice empty parking lot when it's a bit wet ( so it will happen at lower speeds ) and try it. let the back end get going and then snap you foot right off the gas, then try it again staying on it ( you'll end up doing a doughnut ) A happy medium between the two will allow you to look like a boss.

Please do some reading on weight transfer and contact patch so you actually understand what is happening. Read extra for FWD or RWD rear engine cars, they behave slightly different but the outcome is basically the same.

So its more dangerous to let off the gas when doing burnouts?
 

Pinepig

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So its more dangerous to let off the gas when doing burnouts?

If you have already initiated oversteer at speed yes, it will look just like the vid. In a straight line, do whatever you want.

Please, go try it in a lot, if you have no experience you'll be really surprised at the outcome.
 

EightySix Four

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I wish you guys would quit saying this, he didn't get traction, he lost it and when the back started coming around he freaked out and lifted his foot off the gas the dead giveaway is the fact he didn't leave 50yrds of rubber exiting that corner which the GTO should do without effort ). It snapped back the other way and his momentum carried him off the road.

We said the exact same fucking thing.

Yeah, the car got away, he got traction and it threw him into a tree.

The car got away = he lost it and when the back started coming around
He got traction = he freaked out and lifted his foot off the gas
threw him into a tree = It snapped back the other way and his momentum carried him off the road.

Him freaking out and lifting his foot caused his rear tires to gain traction, whip the car around, and the momentum he was already carrying did the rest. Also, based on the way the car snapped, I'm personally guessing he clutched in not let off. Made that mistake only once, but it was on a skid pad
 
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SSSnail

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That's what happens when you have lots of power and can't turn. :awe:


/rubs hands... patiently awaits a similar video featuring a blown mustang...:twisted:
 

DominionSeraph

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I wish you guys would quit saying this, he didn't get traction, he lost it and when the back started coming around he freaked out and lifted his foot off the gas ( the dead giveaway is the fact he didn't leave 50yrds of rubber exiting that corner which the GTO should do without effort ). It snapped back the other way and his momentum carried him off the road.

He gained traction at 17.5 because he lifted at 16.5. This was not typical overcorrection -- he was set up in a very nice power slide until that point. He lost it because it didn't continue to slide. When the rear snap-grabbed, it turned his correct steering angle into a massively incorrect one. Listen to the rears chirping into squealing at 17.5 -- you can hear what they're doing.

If he would have stayed in it just a bit longer all would have went well

Indeed. Because he wouldn't have regained rear traction at 17.5, giving him time to reduce the steering angle. Of course if he kept in it and didn't know what he was doing he may have overcorrected, fishtailed, and ended up looping another hundred yards down the road.
 
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AdamK47

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That's hilarious. And it is even funnier that it happened to a GTO owner. I hate GTOs. They are awful looking, even before being wrapped around a tree.

I agree. I hate GTOs. They's poo.

All GM vehicles suck. Toyota and Honda are the brands to get. Everyone with at least half a brain in their head knows this.
 
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