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cytg111

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China seems to have curbed the exponential growth... can the rest of the planet do the same? Then maybe theres a path towards normalcy...
 

Zorba

Lifer
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China seems to have curbed the exponential growth... can the rest of the planet do the same? Then maybe theres a path towards normalcy...
Based on my co-workers, no.

My company released a policy that is very clear, business essential travel only. And a bunch of co-workers are going to a worthless conference and are like "it's basically the flu, it'll be fine." What's nuts is one of them is the biggest germophobes I know. Another group flew to Seattle on Tuesday, after it was clear there was an ongoing outbreak there.

Americans won't make sacrifices to stop the spread and the government is too broken right now to make them.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Return to normal = dead cat bounce
I keep missing the dead cats because I get busy at work. I've got some 401K money I need to roll over, I'd like to pull it out on a high day and dump it back in on a low day, but I have a feeling the dead cats are dead for a bit.
 

blankslate

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The silver lining about this (if one can consider an economic down-turn as good in any way) is that if it happens before November it will likely do more than anything else to sink Trump's chances for re-election... that's the one upside I guess if this is the sign of an upcoming crash.


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dawp

Lifer
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it's going to take years to recover from this cluster-fuck of an admin
 

cytg111

Lifer
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The silver lining about this (if one can consider an economic down-turn as good in any way) is that if it happens before November it will likely do more than anything else to sink Trump's chances for re-election... that's the one upside I guess if this is the sign of an upcoming crash.


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Temporarily getting Putin out of the WH yes, other than that its going to be another democrat inheriting another republicans financial clusterfuck and otherwise democratic institution in shambles.
When is the last time a R president has NOT fucked up completely?
And the only reason you continue this idiotic circle is because you have 0.001%’ers so rich they can run dedicated propaganda outlets like Fox and put extremely big money into pacs to boost the next moron into the presidency.

Its been tried in Scandinavia a few times... extremely rich buying politics, glad to say its fallen flat on its face each time. F you ftards.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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Good jobs report came in (273k), otoh CV is spreading quickly and the gov has fallen way short of available tests.

Futures are down 750+/-

Could be another wild day
 
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K1052

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Hearing of a lot of conversations in my industry about how to survive this thing at least short term. Companies may not lay off a bunch of folks right away but hours will be drastically cut, operations curtailed, capital projects delayed, and investments shelved. Reminding me too much of 2008 when the calls went out to preserve cash at all costs.

There is a wave of economic hurt building stating with travel that is going to rip through retail, food, and entertainment as well that nobody sees right now.
 

cytg111

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Just signed a 2 year contract with a company/industry that is going to see some action when people start croaking from this thing... :/
 

fskimospy

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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.
There's a chance this can't be contained and everyone will just go on living normal. What he's saying isn't completely crazy other than mandatory giving it to everyone. I believe the market is trying to price in that this can't be contained and people just go on living life as normal. At some point, people will say enough is enough and start living again.
 

fskimospy

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There's a chance this can't be contained and everyone will just go on living normal. What he's saying isn't completely crazy other than mandatory giving it to everyone. I believe the market is trying to price in that this can't be contained and people just go on living life as normal. At some point, people will say enough is enough and start living again.

Well right but that's the part that I said was completely crazy.

Also, depends on what people mean by containment. It may EVENTUALLY get around to most people but if you can spread out the time then it allows us to focus medical resources on people who have it at any given moment. Presumably if everyone was infected like Santelli wants the death rate would be much, much higher as it would totally overwhelm our ability to treat sick people. We're probably talking about tens of millions dead in that scenario.
 

K1052

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Jesus Christ Kudlow is on TV telling everybody things are fine and amazing but avoid Seattle.

He also says the outbreak is contained..which there is absolutely no evidence of. They've got no idea how big it actually is since they can't test at scale.
 
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Jesus Christ Kudlow is on TV telling everybody things are fine and amazing but avoid Seattle.

He also says the outbreak is contained..which there is absolutely no evidence of. They've got no idea how big it actually is since they can't test at scale.
There's something like 3 thousand people quarantined in NY alone as a precautionary measure but yeah... everything is fine.

 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

Millions of elderly people slowly dying in nursing homes with their distraught families not able to see/be with them is certifiably insane thing to ask for because that's what such an idea would actually look like.
 

K1052

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OPEC failed to agree on production cuts. Oil price crashing.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.
He's already made sure to get infected himself, right? Of course he has, what kind of jackass would say something like that if they weren't willing to put themselves on the line.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.
Even if we assume the most optimistic numbers of 0.5% that is still 1.75M people. Then when you realize every hospital in the country would be over ran, the death rate would likely climb over 5%.

Not to mention the death rate of everything else people go to the hospital for.

Basically Americans refuse to make any real sacrifice if they can convince themselves it won't directly affect themselves.
 
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K1052

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Basically Americans refuse to make any real sacrifice if they can convince themselves it won't directly affect themselves.

The self destructive selfishness of our current situation is likely to be made extremely apparent in the coming weeks.
 
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