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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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There's a chance this can't be contained and everyone will just go on living normal. What he's saying isn't completely crazy other than mandatory giving it to everyone. I believe the market is trying to price in that this can't be contained and people just go on living life as normal. At some point, people will say enough is enough and start living again.
Its all about the growth rate... if it gains exponential growth in Europe and US our medical infrastructure is gonna suffocate... If we show we can slow it down to linear growth, manageable growth, then yea I agree with you... its actually the signal I am waiting for.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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There's a chance this can't be contained and everyone will just go on living normal. What he's saying isn't completely crazy other than mandatory giving it to everyone. I believe the market is trying to price in that this can't be contained and people just go on living life as normal. At some point, people will say enough is enough and start living again.
There'd be less economic impact by just forcing everyone to stay home for three weeks.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Rick Santelli of 'moronic Tea Party rant' fame apparently is now arguing that we should just give the virus to everybody so that we can get it over with and limit the economic impact.

If we assume the 2% mortality rate is correct his plan would lead to the death of somewhere around 7 million Americans. What the fuck is wrong with these people.
That may be Trumps “thinking” as well... rip the bandaid off. What did the general say to Trump on his last day? Dont surround yourself with yes-men... What did Trump do?
Dont worry, the stable genius got dis.
This is gonna suck bigly for Americans.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Here's the look that tells us he's bullshitting-

 

Wreckem

Diamond Member
Sep 23, 2006
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Tomorrow doesn’t look to good for the stock markets. Likely to open 1100+ down.

The House of Saud it taking advantage of the coronavirus panic to try to kill off competitors in the oil business...
 
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Yup I might have to take the day off tomorrow. Oil down 30%. Trading around $33. All markets in free fall. And it’s supposed to be a beautiful day here tomorrow so..... cough cough.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Even if we assume the most optimistic numbers of 0.5% that is still 1.75M people. Then when you realize every hospital in the country would be over ran, the death rate would likely climb over 5%.

Not to mention the death rate of everything else people go to the hospital for.

Basically Americans refuse to make any real sacrifice if they can convince themselves it won't directly affect themselves.
My Google fu says we have ~98k ICU beds in the entire country. These are the beds that will be most in demand of have millions stricken in a short period of time. Based on the evidence from China the death rate in that scenario is 5% or higher as you pointed out.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Here's the look that tells us he's bullshitting-

So more tax cuts for jerb creators?
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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*checks stock futures*
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*checks oil prices*
..
*checks treasuries yields*
...

Somebody find me Larry Kudlow who is undoubtedly 4 scotches and 3 lines of coke in at this moment to tell us everything is going to be amazing.
 
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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I saw somewhere someone Post "DOW 10k" and I chuckled. It might not be far from the truth with how things are going.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Tomorrow doesn’t look to good for the stock markets. Likely to open 1100+ down.

The House of Saud it taking advantage of the coronavirus panic to try to kill off competitors in the oil business...

Where's Tariff Man when you need him?
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Futures are down 1200.

Europe was down almost 7%(!!!), down to 2017 levels
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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The WH should be asking Congress for immediate stimulus because we're going to need it for the companies and individuals impacted if we want to come out of the other side of this in a reasonable fashion. Things are starting to come apart.

Instead Trump is spending his morning attacking Obama's presidency after a leisurely weekend of golf that taxpayers paid a fortune to him for.
 

fleshconsumed

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2002
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Well, I'm still not sure about long term damage to global economy from this, but markets sure are tanking like it's 2008. I don't think stimulus is necessary yet, but damn, we should be doing much better job at handling the virus, last I heard we only tested 2000 people, this number may be higher now, but it's still completely inadequate.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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The WH should be asking Congress for immediate stimulus because we're going to need it for the companies and individuals impacted if we want to come out of the other side of this in a reasonable fashion. Things are starting to come apart.

Instead Trump is spending his morning attacking Obama's presidency after a leisurely weekend of golf that taxpayers paid a fortune to him for.
Silly goose, stimuli are for when the economy is roaring. You need something else for when it's crashing!
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Well, I'm still not sure about long term damage to global economy from this, but markets sure are tanking like it's 2008. I don't think stimulus is necessary yet, but damn, we should be doing much better job at handling the virus, last I heard we only tested 2000 people, this number may be higher now, but it's still completely inadequate.

Northern Italy is probably the US in a couple weeks and nobody here is even slightly ready for it.
 
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Dulanic

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Oct 27, 2000
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How many minutes until we get to the 15% trip once trading reopens?

13% but still If I had to guess, it doesn't hit 13% today.... but trying to predict the market right now is impossible. I am of the opinion that 5 different narratives from different administration people is making it aht much worse. The market is looking for stability, and we don't even get it from people in the same administration.... pandemic, all clear, under control... just a total mess.
 
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