Dr. Atkins Protein Diet (Does It Work?)

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cchen

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Hmm this diet seems interesting....

What is the typical menu for the day? I'd like to try it but I don't know where to start...
 

GermyBoy

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Wow, I hope it doesn't work, because tomorrow my buddies and I are going to Shoneys where we hope to eat $10 in bacon and sausage, each!
 

Nefrodite

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if those diets worked, americas huge billion dollar diet business would go .. well.. out of business
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: cchen
Hmm this diet seems interesting....

What is the typical menu for the day? I'd like to try it but I don't know where to start...

Pretty much anything you want as long as it is low carb, no processed sugars. For breakfast I will usually eat bacon and eggs or sausage, or a omelot with ham/cheese/tomato, or a grapefruit or some other piece of fruit, glass or OJ. lunch I will have salad or left over dinner from the day before, or some soup (campbells soup) dinner i eat fish or seafood, chicken, beef, pork chops(with mushrooms and cream of mushroom soup), rice. etc etc, steamed squash or zucchini(with butter and parmesan cheese springled on top), a salad. You can eat carbs on atkins, but for the first 2 weeks it is recommended that you cut them out completely. Carb addicts need that 2 weeks to bascially break the addiction. After that you you slowly bring carbs back. One of the essentials to a successful atkins or any lifestyle change is 1. excercise 2. cutting out processed foods and sugar, junk food, fast food. Also, on Atkins, buy some Ketostix. You'll wanna monitor your ketone levels for the first 2 weeks, and you can also use them to get the correct balance of what your daily carb intake should be.

BTW, I still drink alcohol on occasion. Atkins isn't about deprivation, nor is it about eating only red meat, like some ppl would have you believe. Like ragingBitch said, lifestyle change. Changing the ways we look at food. Getting rid of the cravings. Excercise. It is amazing how much better you feel when you cut out all the sugars and starches from a diet. There is a reason after you eat a huge italian meal with tons of pasta, carbs carbs carbs, all you wanna do is take a nap. I have never been fat, but as I've grown older it aint as easy at 31 as it was at 20. So, I decided to change my eating habits. I am glad I did.




 

Jeraden

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Here's my typical diet.

Breakfast:
weekdays - I just drink a lowcarb protein shake
weekends - eggs, bacon, sausage. Usually go to a brunch buffet on sunday where I can load up on the stuff.

Lunch:
Wendys - triple - remove bun, caesar side salad
McDonalds - double quarter pounder, side salad shaker
Chinese Buffet - anything on there that isn't breaded, no rice/lo mein. I suspect some of the sauces might be high in carbs, but dunno.
Other - grilled chicken salad w/ lots of cheese/bacon

Dinner - lots of different things.
cheeseburger patties (or other ground meat recipes)
any type of fish
kielbasa/hot sausage
many different chicken recipes
hot wings
steak
green beans
any meat really, but the above are what I normally eat, I'm not too extravagant

Snacks:
cheese cubes
roasted almonds or macadamia nuts
slim jims
pepperoni slices (i like them microwaved on a paper towel for a minute, makes them nice and crispy!)
 

bandXtrb

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Well I will gauge the duration and odor of my farts before and during my Atkins diet and post the results here.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Yes and no . . .

Credentials . . . undergraduate degree in Nutrition from the UNC School of Public Health along with a minor in Biochemistry. As for the present and near future last update was indeed 1999 . . .

Let me help you with some 411:

Atkin's diet will produce weight loss . . . often dramatic. Is his diet consistent with a healthy lifestyle . . . absolutely NOT. The cavemen were not vegans? You need to stop watching Clan of the Cave Bear. Early peoples were likely gatherer before hunter/gatherer. And true civilizations evolved out of agriculture in which produce predated and typically dominated livestock. The caveman you cite likely had a lifespan of <20 years. He/she didn't live long enough to die from heart attack or stroke via clogged arteries.

If you burn more than you consume you will lose weight. One can of Coke 120kcals; go diet and you save 3600 kcals a month. Make a habit of parking your car farther from your office or class, take the stairs up and down, and minimal physical exertion (stretching) can easily net another 120 kcal/d. That's a total of 7200 kcal/month (or 2+ pounds of bodyweight) from doing next to nothing. Imagine what would happen if you actually exercised? Furthermore, Atkin's diet doesn't work any magic. He depletes glycogen stores by restricting carb intake. It's been awhile but my best recollection is that it takes 3 moles of water to store 1 mole of glucose as glycogen. Hence, glycogen loss will produce a loss of free water (it may be 3/1 by mass not moles). If that's the case then 75% of the wt loss is water, and 25% glycogen which is stored primarily in muscle and the liver. Excretion of excess protein derived waste requires increased water consumption if you do not meet this requirement you will become dehydrated.

400-500g pro/d bodybuilders typically consume 6-8 quarts of pure water per day and eat enough broccoli to grow sprouts out the arse. They also consume loads of white rice and pasta. They do not eat at Jack in the Box or McDs ordering high saturated fat crap, tossing the bun, and calling it a quality meal. They prepare low fat high protein sources and then replete their diet as necessary with essential fats (omega-3/fish and omega-6/plant). In the months prior to a contest they GRADUALLY reduce their carbs. Induced ketosis helps firm the muscles by reducing bulk glycogen and its water component. No alive and well bodybuilder would tell you ketosis is healthy for more than 4-8 weeks. I know I wrestled . . . the diet sucks but it works in the short term. Don't even get me started on the myriad of micronutritents found in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains necessary for a complete diet.

Protein provides the substrate for muscle repair/growth and essentially every enzyme function in the body while carbs are NECESSARY for the basal energy requirement of the brain which consumes most of your energy while at rest. When we feed patients parenteral nutrition (through their veins) we actually calculate specific ratios of protein to carb b/c protein requires a certain amount of carbs to be properly metabolized.

High protein diets 2g/lb bodyweight with adequate water consumption are UNLIKELY to cause kidney disease. But for those of you who called the Rochester nutritionist a quack you don't know diddly. Dehydration alone can cause kidney damage. Prolonged use of a ketogenic diet without adequate hydration could certainly do it. Nephrotic syndrome is diagnosed by the triad of high blood pressure, proteinuria (protein in the urine), and hyperlipidemia (typically cholesterol and triglycerides in the blood).

As for Atkins diet cleaning the arteries . . . near total BS. The only diet centered plan known to retard or reverse atherosclerosis is Dean Ornish in the Journal of the American Medical Association which is essentially the polar opposite to Atkins. And unlike Atkins, Ornish's peer-reviewed studies actually encompass decent sample sizes and protocols consistent with healthy lifestyles. Admittedly, I do consider Ornish a little bit of a flake. And his diet bites unless you like eating like a rabbit. But a flexible form of Ornish allowing nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese, high-fat fish in moderation (and a tiny bit of beef) will provide most of the benefits of his diet and be consistent with what most people would be willing to do for the rest of their lives.

Excellent summary of why Atkinsonian thought is unhealthy fad and info on other weight loss options
 
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