Draft...Would you serve or run?

FettsBabe

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If you received a draft notice would you serve or would you run to the nearest border????

What about if your son was drafted....would you help them run or tell them to serve?

I believe that there should be a true cause for a war before the draft is ever used. I'm not sure Iraq is reason enough to enable the draft.

Why are we wanting to go there anyway? It certainly isn't for Saddam! I think we want to take over the Oil fields! I watched the news last night and they were discussing the plan to protect the oil fields and how the oil would be used/distributed.

 

notfred

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If the United States was being attacked, I'd serve. If the president wants to sacrifice American lives for a personal vendetta or to lower the price of oil imported from the middle east, I wouldn't (I wouldn't RUN, I just wouldn't serve).
 

CurtCold

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If there was a draft I would go. If I knew I was going to be Drafted, I would go and sign up. Someone has to protect this country/serve, and if called upon I would do it. I wouldn't wanna tell my children living in Commy USA that the reason they were there, or weren't able to have freedom was because I was too scared to go.

Would I be scared? You bet your arse, but this country is worth fighting for.
 

SlowSS

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If you received a draft notice would you serve or would you run to the nearest border????

What about if your son was drafted....would you help them run or tell them to serve?

I believe that there should be a true cause for a war before the draft is ever used. I'm not sure Iraq is reason enough to enable the draft.

Why are we wanting to go there anyway? It certainly isn't for Saddam! I think we want to take over the Oil fields! I watched the news last night and they were discussing the plan to protect the oil fields and how the oil would be used/distributed.

The only reason oil field will be protected is because Saddam will destroy it...
Do you even remember what happened our first Gulf war, how Saddam lit up all the oil pipes
creating disasterous effect on environment?

So you are saying that it doesn't matter that saddam is an evil person and is a threat and inhumane dictator, right?

As for the draft, I've already served but if asked to activate to active duty, I would do it.

I realize you are a female and you will not be drafted, not that draft is reality as of now,
would you run or sign up?
 

Blieb

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Originally posted by: notfred
If the United States was being attacked, I'd serve. If the president wants to sacrifice American lives for a personal vendetta or to lower the price of oil imported from the middle east, I wouldn't (I wouldn't RUN, I just wouldn't serve).

Hmm, I always wanted a masters ...

All this draft talk is BS if you ask me. Do you know how many we have enlisted!? (me neither, but I bet it's a lot)
 

SnapIT

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I assume this is only for Americans....

Here in Sweden it is mandatory, or rather, you can choose not to serve and spend the same amount of time in jail... peaceniks usually choose the easy way out... jail...
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
I assume this is only for Americans....

Here in Sweden it is mandatory, or rather, you can choose not to serve and spend the same amount of time in jail... peaceniks usually choose the easy way out... jail...

I'd take the military in Sweden.. :Q
 

b0mbrman

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I'd say "Uh...excuse me. I got a draft notice but I'm already in the Army. Thanks for the reminder though "
 

blahblah99

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Originally posted by: notfred
If the United States was being attacked, I'd serve. If the president wants to sacrifice American lives for a personal vendetta or to lower the price of oil imported from the middle east, I wouldn't (I wouldn't RUN, I just wouldn't serve).

I couldn't agree with you anymore. If its a war based on politics, greed, and money, I wouldn't fight. If the president wants more power, then let him USE HIS OWN SONS AND DAUGHTERS to obtain it, not someone else's son/daughter.

But if the US was being attacked unprovoked, I'd defend my country.
 

FettsBabe

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I wish I could locate a link to the news I saw on TV last night. The Oil Field Plan wasn't a plan to "protect" the oil fields. It was more like we were going in and taking them over. The US should give the Oil Fields to whomever is in power because it is Iraqi oil. If we want to eliminate Saddam that is ok with me, but to take over the Oil Fields and for the US to make all the decisions is "commy" within itself.

Yes, Saddam is evil and has turned on his people many many times. His son is worse than him though. If we were there because he was "inhumane" that would be different, but we aren't. We are there for the oil. As a note, Afghanistan had numerous "inhumane" problems for many years (prior to 9-11);however, we sat on our butts and didn't do a thing. Tajikastan is the poorest country in the world. We aren't there helping them.

I couldn't serve right now because I am pregnant, but if I weren't pregnant, I would serve IF it there was a valid reason to go to war. If not, I would leave. I'm not dying nor will I kill other people for oil or any other inappropriate reason. Only drafting men is sexist. If we are going to have a draft lets draft men and women.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Yield
Originally posted by: SnapIT
I assume this is only for Americans....

Here in Sweden it is mandatory, or rather, you can choose not to serve and spend the same amount of time in jail... peaceniks usually choose the easy way out... jail...

I'd take the military in Sweden.. :Q

Are you saying that you aren't a peacenik or are you saying that you don't know anything about how it is to serve in Sweden?
 

FoBoT

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serve (but i already served, i can't be drafted, but i could be recalled if a war of sufficient magnitude developed)

i have two daughters

if they ran, i would go find them myself and turn them in
 

FettsBabe

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I couldn't agree with you anymore. If its a war based on politics, greed, and money, I wouldn't fight. If the president wants more power, then let him USE HIS OWN SONS AND DAUGHTERS to obtain it, not someone else's son/daughter.

Exactly!
 

SlowSS

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BTW, what's up with all these thread about DRAFT???

It's not going to happen any time soon, if at all.

It is not need it, and some people don't belong in the military, I for one is against it.
I've seen far too many momma's boys fail miserably in strict military environment.
 

EndGame

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Serve no question about it! I doubt I have much to think about or worry about though anyway since I was active duty from '85 - '93.

As for the "if it was a worthwhile cause" argument, whose to say what is or isn't? Many look at the current Iraqi situation in that manner, but, what happens when/if the evidence is produced? What seems not "worthwhile" at the momet has the possibility to become worthwhile in a very short time.
 

FettsBabe

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As for the "if it was a worthwhile cause" argument, whose to say what is or isn't? Many look at the current Iraqi situation in that manner, but, what happens when/if the evidence is produced? What seems not "worthwhile" at the momet has the possibility to become worthwhile in a very short time.

That is very true. WWII is a very good example of that.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: FettsBabe
If you received a draft notice would you serve or would you run to the nearest border????

What about if your son was drafted....would you help them run or tell them to serve?

I believe that there should be a true cause for a war before the draft is ever used. I'm not sure Iraq is reason enough to enable the draft.

Why are we wanting to go there anyway? It certainly isn't for Saddam! I think we want to take over the Oil fields! I watched the news last night and they were discussing the plan to protect the oil fields and how the oil would be used/distributed.

If drafted I would serve. My only regret at this point in my life is that I did not serve in the military for my country. However, I doubt there will be a mandatory draft. Just too many bad memories from the Vietnam era and you are more likely to get better results out of a volunteer army than a drafted one.

As for your question about Iraq...this is a continuation of the Gulf War when Iraq invaded and proceeded to rape Kuwait (both literally and figuratively). Iraq has not been living up to their end of their surrender agreement. If it is found that they have been producing weapons of mass-destruction, a regime change should be initiated.

As for the oil fields, do you not remember the pictures of oil fields burning during the Gulf War? All those fires were started by Saddam's troops. As a result, there were black clouds and all sorts of nasty pollution in the region for quite a while.
 

Dari

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As a citizen of this great country, you have no right to refuse to serve in such a fundamental institution as the military. Moral clarity is not the job of soldiers/would-be soldiers. Look at Israel.
 

FettsBabe

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As for the oil fields, do you not remember the pictures of oil fields burning during the Gulf War? All those fires were started by Saddam's troops. As a result, there were black clouds and all sorts of nasty pollution in the region for quite a while.

Yes, I remember those horrible pictures. I also watched a documentary on what it took to extinguish the fires. It was really sad. However, the plan they have isn't to "protect" them it is to "take" them. Its not our decision to decide what to do with the oil.
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: FettsBabe
I wish I could locate a link to the news I saw on TV last night. The Oil Field Plan wasn't a plan to "protect" the oil fields. It was more like we were going in and taking them over. The US should give the Oil Fields to whomever is in power because it is Iraqi oil. If we want to eliminate Saddam that is ok with me, but to take over the Oil Fields and for the US to make all the decisions is "commy" within itself.

The protection will occur only to eliminate power struggle amongst the ethenic tribe. Whoever controls the oil will control the country. UN and allies do not want a power struggle after Saddam is removed.
The worst part of this war (If it ever happens) will be trying to rebuild the country, amicable division of land, and governmental system for the all the ethenicities within that country.

Yes, Saddam is evil and has turned on his people many many times. His son is worse than him though. If we were there because he was "inhumane" that would be different, but we aren't. We are there for the oil. As a note, Afghanistan had numerous "inhumane" problems for many years (prior to 9-11);however, we sat on our butts and didn't do a thing. Tajikastan is the poorest country in the world. We aren't there helping them.

What factual information do you have on Saddam's son to claim that he is worse than his dad?


 
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